Newcastle United 0-0 Crystal Palace; post match frustration from p26

[toontownman]

Viera trolling. 

 

Vieira said: "After looking at the images after the game, I thought that was the right decision from the referee.

"Was there a push? No, not at all. I think if there is not a Newcastle player then our goalkeeper will get the ball. That contact of course had a massive impact on the goal. That’s why I believed it was the right decision from the referee."

 

I mean I feel like that with most situations and goals we concede. If there isn't an opposition player there I'm pretty confident Pope will get the ball.

[Flip]

1 minute ago, Kid Icarus said:

The problem is that there's no acknowledgment whatsoever for his good performances. Against Forest and Man City he was excellent, against Wolves he was very good, against Tranmere he was fine, against Brighton and Palace he was poor in poor team performances.

 

Even then, with proper officiating he plays a big part in our win today 

 

It's always stupidly over the top.

 

You talking about Willock?  Excellent against Man City? Fine against Tranmere? Very good against Wolves? Did we watch the same games? 

 

 

[Happinesstan]

7 minutes ago, MrRaspberryJam said:

 

To be fair it's hard to tell with you. 

I mean. I acknowledge, and accept that. But I did label this one.

[Flip]

10 minutes ago, The Prophet said:

Willock is the new ASM. Hound him out.

 

ASM never hides, in fact ASM tries to hard sometimes. Willock actually fucking hides. Right at the beginning of the game he lost a duel because he couldn't bother. He has this Dele Alli aura of him at times. I'm sorry, I'm a fan of talented footballers and Willock has talent, that's quite clear. But he shies away from challenges and looks pedestrain 90% of the time with the play just passing him by. Longstaff isn't half as talented, yet you see him get on the ball and win the ball countless more times than Willock. 

[Kid Icarus]

2 minutes ago, Flip said:

 

You talking about Willock?  Excellent against Man City? Fine against Tranmere? Very good against Wolves? Did we watch the same games? 

 

 

Probably not, I rarely agree with you 

[KaKa]

3 minutes ago, Kid Icarus said:

The problem is that there's no acknowledgment whatsoever for his good performances. Against Forest and Man City he was excellent, against Wolves he was very good, against Tranmere he was fine, against Brighton and Palace he was poor in poor team performances.

 

Even then, with proper officiating he plays a big part in our win today 

 

It's always stupidly over the top.

 

Maybe I expected too much of him.

 

I guess this is the first time under Howe's style of play he's been in the team without either Bruno or Shelvey alongside.

 

Really thought he'd take more responsibility and be more influential as the most attack minded midfielder, but it appears maybe that's not really what he does. He just doesn't seem to look to get on the ball much. The whole thing is baffling really.

[Vinny Green Balls]

9 minutes ago, MrRaspberryJam said:

 

To be fair it's hard to tell with you. 

He has been consistently positive about the team and Howe though.

[Kid Icarus]

FWIW, the Palace forum are very aware that it was a gained point for them and that they got away with it re VAR.

[maze]

What position did Willock play in when he was on loan here?

[geordie_b]

2 minutes ago, maze said:

What position did Willock play in when he was on loan here?

In the hole, digging Bruce out of it 

[KaKa]

1 minute ago, maze said:

What position did Willock play in when he was on loan here?

 

Good question. I think it was off the striker?

 

I do remember him saying Bruce told him to just try to get in the box and be a goal threat, which he was excellent at.

 

Maybe that's just the kind of player he is then. Late runs into the box and not much general play?

[Shearergol]

Bruno in for Longstaff and we absolutely dominate that game. Don’t panic.

[Gawalls]

14 minutes ago, Happinesstan said:

Aaww. Bless the poor bairn. He doesn't get sarcasm.

I’m pretty sure you had a /s on there that’s been left off

[KaKa]

Just now, geordie_b said:

In the hole, digging Bruce out of it 

 

[Jaqen]

4 minutes ago, maze said:

What position did Willock play in when he was on loan here?

 

Pretty much a 10 with no responsibility or instructions. Sure he said that himself. Bruce told him to just do what he wanted up there. 

[Nine]

1 minute ago, Jaqen said:

 

Pretty much a 10 with no responsibility or instructions. Sure he said that himself. Bruce told him to just do what he wanted up there. 

Sounds about right 

 

‘just go out there and play son’

[Kanj]

There’s 0 reason to panic. We’re taking in draws we’d used to be losing, and we’ve been on the end of key injuries and key ref decisions that have literally taken points off the board for us. We created clear cut chances to win this game and between lack of luck, great goalkeeping, and inability to finish those few chances we didn’t comfortably win. 
 

I am chilled as I’ve ever been, this is a process and we continue to build, even if a game like today can leave us annoyed at 2 points dropped - trust the club to learn and grow at every opportunity. 

[Holloway]

When our back up players bridge the gap from our starters we'll start making inroads into Europe

[1964]

Just seen the disallowed goal, how the fuck that was a free kick to them is a joke.  Either a goal, or a pen and a sending off for them for denying a clear goal scoring opportunity 

[Skeletor]

Thought we played well (for the most part) but our lack of quality in key areas bit us in the arse today. Also the referee can get bonesaw'd.

[Guest reefatoon]

Draw specialists. 1 win in 6. Ouch

[Flip]

2 minutes ago, Kid Icarus said:

Probably not, I rarely agree with you 

 

 

 

I just don't understand what you see in WIllocks performances tbh. The ones you mentioned as excellent, very good, he had the least touches, least passes, least ground duels of all our midfielders. Same against Brighton and today. I don't know, maybe I'm harsh, but I do agree with Kaka (and others). A talented midfielder who doesn't get himself into the game and sees the game pass him by consistently. Maybe it's the formation that doesn't suit him, but Sean Longstaff who is a very limited footballer is doing better. 

 

 

[KaKa]

2 minutes ago, Kanji said:

There’s 0 reason to panic. We’re taking in draws we’d used to be losing, and we’ve been on the end of key injuries and key ref decisions that have literally taken points off the board for us. We created clear cut chances to win this game and between lack of luck, great goalkeeping, and inability to finish those few chances we didn’t comfortably win. 
 

I am chilled as I’ve ever been, this is a process and we continue to build, even if a game like today can leave us annoyed at 2 points dropped - trust the club to learn and grow at every opportunity. 

 

The last two games coming in such close proximity have been so incredibly annoying ... but you're right.

 

West Ham next though, God help us all when Bruno, ASM and Wilson miss out again, and Paqueta runs the show.

[Nun tumblers]

Willock is a pale shadow of the player we had on loan and kept us in the prem.

[maze]

6 minutes ago, KaKa said:

 

Good question. I think it was off the striker?

 

I do remember him saying Bruce told him to just try to get in the box and be a goal threat, which he was excellent at.

 

Maybe that's just the kind of player he is then. Late runs into the box and not much general play?

 

5 minutes ago, Jaqen said:

 

Pretty much a 10 with no responsibility or instructions. Sure he said that himself. Bruce told him to just do what he wanted up there. 

 

He's not been very good the last couple of matches, so pushing him further up the pitch might help him recover some form? Might pose a bigger threat than subbing Wood/Murphy in from the bench.