The Prophet Posted March 31, 2023 Share Posted March 31, 2023 25 minutes ago, Mike said: What'd he say? In a nutshell, he said that McTominay would be playing every minute for NUFC next season and he'd hoped Kuol would have done the same at Hearts. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
andycap Posted April 1, 2023 Share Posted April 1, 2023 Can the club bring him back? The last two games they've been beat comfortably and he cannot even get a few minutes on the pitch. Total waste. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
andycap Posted April 1, 2023 Share Posted April 1, 2023 There manager seems to have his favourites so waste of a loan. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kid Icarus Posted April 1, 2023 Share Posted April 1, 2023 Don't see the point if the alternative is him not playing here either. He's in better training facilities, amongst a few Aussies, and is at least getting some minutes. Patience Iago, Patience Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
andycap Posted April 1, 2023 Share Posted April 1, 2023 (edited) Surely training with Eddie and the coaches,plus the standard of our forwards would be better for learning off. U21s would be better than no game time at all. Edited April 1, 2023 by andycap Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted April 1, 2023 Share Posted April 1, 2023 32 minutes ago, andycap said: Can the club bring him back? The last two games they've been beat comfortably and he cannot even get a few minutes on the pitch. Total waste. Not outside a transfer window no Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
et tu brute Posted April 1, 2023 Share Posted April 1, 2023 I said about 6 weeks ago that it was a totally wasted loan spell and it's been proven correct. You could tell in his press conference that Howe wasn't impressed Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kid Icarus Posted April 1, 2023 Share Posted April 1, 2023 Tbf, the only proof will be in the pudding. None of us have any idea how much use him being up there will be, but I'd bet that it's better than being back here. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whitley mag Posted April 1, 2023 Share Posted April 1, 2023 Who’s the loan manager again ?………….Argh aye that explains it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Super Duper Branko Strupar Posted April 1, 2023 Share Posted April 1, 2023 59 minutes ago, et tu brute said: I said about 6 weeks ago that it was a totally wasted loan spell and it's been proven correct. Has it? You got a time machine? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
et tu brute Posted April 1, 2023 Share Posted April 1, 2023 1 minute ago, Super Duper Branko Strupar said: Has it? You got a time machine? Well Howe isn't too happy about it judging by his comments yesterday Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
OverThere Posted April 1, 2023 Share Posted April 1, 2023 Today Kilmarnock were down to 10 men for the last 30 minutes and Kuol remained on the bench. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheBrownBottle Posted April 2, 2023 Share Posted April 2, 2023 It’s hardly Hearts’ fault though - if the lad isn’t yet good enough to come on they should hardly be pressured into bringing him on. It was always high risk sending him on loan to the SPL - the 4th tier, like Anderson, made far more sense. Ameobi still in situ, though. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Conjo Posted April 2, 2023 Share Posted April 2, 2023 The guy has played a total of two games worth of minutes since he went to Hearts. They don't know if he is good enough or not - he needs to get the opportunity to prove it. If Hearts weren't prepared to give unknown talent a chance then why loan him at all. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
teohgk Posted April 2, 2023 Share Posted April 2, 2023 Hearts fans seems pissed at the coach for his lack of action too What a disastrous loan, they begged us to loan them the player and stuck him at the bench, what a joke Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
cubaricho Posted April 2, 2023 Share Posted April 2, 2023 50 minutes ago, teohgk said: What a disastrous loan Some wild takes on this page. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
OverThere Posted April 2, 2023 Share Posted April 2, 2023 I wonder what level would have seen him get minutes. Maybe L1? Obviously the SPL was too much too quickly. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheBrownBottle Posted April 2, 2023 Share Posted April 2, 2023 Maybe the old third division, certainly the old fourth, where the standard is more similar to the A League - and remember Kuol wasn’t a starter for the Mariners either. He’s a really young lad with potential and time on his side - but the loan to the SPL at this stage was daft. It’s a new league on the other side of the planet and he would have been better suited (to me) to a loan to a Mediterranean club, where the pace would’ve been more like the A-League. Malta or similar. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
aussiemag Posted April 2, 2023 Share Posted April 2, 2023 (edited) 57 minutes ago, TheBrownBottle said: Maybe the old third division, certainly the old fourth, where the standard is more similar to the A League - and remember Kuol wasn’t a starter for the Mariners either. He’s a really young lad with potential and time on his side - but the loan to the SPL at this stage was daft. It’s a new league on the other side of the planet and he would have been better suited (to me) to a loan to a Mediterranean club, where the pace would’ve been more like the A-League. Malta or similar. I'm not sure if youve watched the A-league but the standard is certainly higher than 3rd or 4th division. Australia fielded a team at the world cup full of A-league players that made it through the group stage and took Argentina all the way. Realistically, lower championship would be the level. Other Aussies that didnt perform as well as Kuol in the A-league have done well in the SPL. I think its a combination of being young and away from family, a new environment and not being played in his best position. Edited April 2, 2023 by aussiemag Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheBrownBottle Posted April 2, 2023 Share Posted April 2, 2023 (edited) 42 minutes ago, aussiemag said: I'm not sure if youve watched the A-league but the standard is certainly higher than 3rd or 4th division. Australia fielded a team at the world cup full of A-league players that made it through the group stage and took Argentina all the way. Realistically, lower championship would be the level. Other Aussies that didnt perform as well as Kuol in the A-league have done well in the SPL. I think its a combination of being young and away from family, a new environment and not being played in his best position. I attend Western Wanderers games fortnightly and watch the other games on TV. WC performance isn’t relevant to me - it’s a poor Australian side. It’s definitely not Second Division standard, much closer to Third and the worst teams would struggle in the fourth tier. edit: I work in Parramatta usually, so attending midweek games is easy enough. I was there for the top of the table clash vs Adelaide on Friday night. It was an entertaining game - but the standard wasn’t great Edited April 2, 2023 by TheBrownBottle Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Infatuation Junkie Posted April 2, 2023 Share Posted April 2, 2023 Put him in heaton Stan Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dokko Posted April 2, 2023 Share Posted April 2, 2023 Hearts fans not happy, Howe not happy, His NT manager not happy, yet I'm still seeing people saying its good for him and better than being here. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unbelievable Posted April 2, 2023 Share Posted April 2, 2023 I don’t know, maybe let the lad earn his place in his side as he gets to grips with things after a life changing move? If he’s not yet good enough to get significant game time at Hearts he wouldn’t have seen much game time here anyway. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
joeyt Posted April 2, 2023 Share Posted April 2, 2023 5 minutes ago, Unbelievable said: I don’t know, maybe let the lad earn his place in his side as he gets to grips with things after a life changing move? If he’s not yet good enough to get significant game time at Hearts he wouldn’t have seen much game time here anyway. There's more options than just here and Hearts though We have a loan manager and assistant loan manager whose job description is to find the right club for our young players to get game time Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted April 2, 2023 Share Posted April 2, 2023 On paper though it was pretty much the perfect loan move at the time. - Decent standard of football - Chance to get used to the UK - Senior Australian players there from the World Cup to help him settle - Close enough to Newcastle for us to keep tabs on him ...and so on. Whether it's the manager not fancying him, or Kuol not quite ready yet, it's not quite worked as we hoped yet. I still think it'll do him good in the long run though. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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