Pixelphish Posted November 17, 2023 Share Posted November 17, 2023 1 minute ago, joeyt said: Do last year's relegated team have a case that the punishment should have been dished out last season? I hope so. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
OCK Posted November 17, 2023 Share Posted November 17, 2023 You'd hope the EPL have something in writing to prevent it, otherwise we're in for a right shit show. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jack j Posted November 17, 2023 Share Posted November 17, 2023 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheInfiniteOdyssey Posted November 17, 2023 Share Posted November 17, 2023 Got no love for Everton, but I’ve become extremely disillusioned with FFP both as a concept and in enforcement. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
wiseman Posted November 17, 2023 Share Posted November 17, 2023 Kinda hope while they appeal it, the punishment is put on hold and it drags into next season when there's not a guaranteed 3 going down already Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skeletor Posted November 17, 2023 Share Posted November 17, 2023 The points deduction doesn't even put them bottom of the table The relegation battle this year is such a joke. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LFEE Posted November 17, 2023 Share Posted November 17, 2023 29 minutes ago, Fezzle said: They claimed about £200m covid losses or something ridiculous That is basically where the trouble arose. Everton’s covid loss figures posted were way out of kilter compared to other clubs for same financial year. Laughing that they could’ve possibly avoided all this also if they had financed the new stadium rather than via “owner loan”. That’s not how money laundering works though in reality… Chelsea next please! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The College Dropout Posted November 17, 2023 Share Posted November 17, 2023 I can only respect it if Chelse & City are hit with points deductions that stick. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Klaus Posted November 17, 2023 Share Posted November 17, 2023 (edited) Feel sorry for them... Edited November 17, 2023 by Klaus Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cronky Posted November 17, 2023 Share Posted November 17, 2023 40 minutes ago, The Prophet said: They're arguing it's disproportionate to the crime. It's a bit more lenient than I was expecting really. They've still got a good chance of avoiding the drop. An appeal can usually mean a longer ban, so I suspect they would have taken this on the chin, were it not for the possibility of being sued by the relegated clubs. That could be plenty serious. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRC Posted November 17, 2023 Share Posted November 17, 2023 So if this punishment was implemented quicker, Leicester stay up, Everton go down, they hold on to Harvey Barnes. We sign someone like Diaby instead, we dont lose Barnes to an injury, that doesnt put pressure on the rest of the team so Miggy, Isak, Wilson and Murphy also don't get injured. This has cost us the title, potentially the CL next round. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RodneyCisse Posted November 17, 2023 Share Posted November 17, 2023 6 minutes ago, The College Dropout said: I can only respect it if Chelse & City are hit with points deductions that stick. I can’t wait for them two getting shafted. Nothing clubs before they got taken over. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Groundhog63 Posted November 17, 2023 Share Posted November 17, 2023 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
GeordieDazzler Posted November 17, 2023 Share Posted November 17, 2023 As had been said it feels like Everton have been done a solid here. Take the points deduction and get rid of it hanging over them during a season where there is clearly three worse teams than the other 17. They would have been dead and buried last season. Now they can move into their new stadium with a relatively clean slate albeit probably still quite limited means. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neil Posted November 17, 2023 Share Posted November 17, 2023 With respect, talk of taking the hit now, 3 worse teams, getting away with it, is a load of fucking condescending nonsense. It's all just rhetoric to take away from the core issue. The punishment is totally and utterly disproportionate, and transparently unfounded. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The College Dropout Posted November 17, 2023 Share Posted November 17, 2023 (edited) 19 minutes ago, GeordieDazzler said: As had been said it feels like Everton have been done a solid here. Take the points deduction and get rid of it hanging over them during a season where there is clearly three worse teams than the other 17. They would have been dead and buried last season. Now they can move into their new stadium with a relatively clean slate albeit probably still quite limited means. It's going to make the relegation battle fun. Everton will need 44-46 points to stay up you imagine. That's not a given for them but they will get close. Edit: Tbh they might stay up with 40 (pre-points deduction). The others are way off the pace already. Edited November 17, 2023 by The College Dropout Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
et tu brute Posted November 17, 2023 Share Posted November 17, 2023 (edited) Reports the three relegated teams are going to take legal action and rightly so. Didn't Sheff united get a massive payout from West Ham for playing unregistered (or some reason I can't remember) players. Surely if found guilty Chelsea and City will follow suit with the points deduction, big question however is when. Edited November 17, 2023 by et tu brute Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eveready Posted November 17, 2023 Share Posted November 17, 2023 I guess it wouldn't cause an immediate impact but I think the most fair punishment would be reducing their FFP budget in the next x years period by double their overspend in the period they committed the offence. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TomYam Posted November 17, 2023 Share Posted November 17, 2023 2 minutes ago, The College Dropout said: It's going to make the relegation battle fun. Everton will need 44-46 points to stay up you imagine. That's not a given for them but they will get close. I'd expect Everton to get about 45 points come season end (35 with points deducted), but it's highly unlikely Luton, SheffU or Burnley will accumulate more than 30. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
GeordieDazzler Posted November 17, 2023 Share Posted November 17, 2023 3 minutes ago, Neil said: With respect, talk of taking the hit now, 3 worse teams, getting away with it, is a load of fucking condescending nonsense. It's all just rhetoric to take away from the core issue. The punishment is totally and utterly disproportionate, and transparently unfounded. https://www.footballsite.co.uk/DYK/DYK29-PointsDeductions.htm Trying to find a similar situation to Everton which seems to be perhaps Birmingham who got 9 points deducted. Will be very interesting to see what City and Chelsea’s punishments are. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
timeEd32 Posted November 17, 2023 Share Posted November 17, 2023 23 minutes ago, Neil said: With respect, talk of taking the hit now, 3 worse teams, getting away with it, is a load of fucking condescending nonsense. It's all just rhetoric to take away from the core issue. The punishment is totally and utterly disproportionate, and transparently unfounded. Yeah, there's no way if this happened to us we'd all be like "well, we're randomly in a relegation battle but at least the other teams are shit." Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gbandit Posted November 17, 2023 Share Posted November 17, 2023 Sure, but football might be hypocrisy’s safest space and I’m happy to accept that a lot of the time even though I don’t in other walks of life Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dokko Posted November 17, 2023 Share Posted November 17, 2023 Is it unfair? I don't think it is. They've been very lucky it didn't come sooner and that they were allowed to hide behind covid to cover up most of their mess. There's not enough points in the season to hit citeh and Chelsea for what should be coming their way, and that will be the actual issue, not this benchmark. Everton fans always banging on about being a historic club. Now they have a historic pts deduction to go with it and something new to whinge about, which let's be fair, is what anyone from Liverpool truly cares about. I'm seeing the relegated clubs are ready to sue them for £100m each. It's about to get messy. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SUPERTOON Posted November 17, 2023 Share Posted November 17, 2023 Brilliant this Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Prophet Posted November 17, 2023 Share Posted November 17, 2023 You'd think one of the central points of appeal will be how have the PL reached that punishment. A 10 point deduction for a £19 million overspend is interesting to say the least. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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