7th-ometer

[RodneyCisse]

9 hours ago, NWMag said:

A key factor in our chase for Europe will be how we fare against the ‘big 6’ we are trying to overtake. 
 

so far it’s been good, 1 win, 2 draws and 1 (unfair) loss. 
 

chelsea to come in 2 weeks, on current form I fancy us to get 3 points from that at home. 

I think we’ll do ‘em, we played well against a organised potter side away from home against a team he’d picked the full squad.

[Coffee_Johnny]

3 hours ago, Izakaya said:

 

 

There is genuine potential for the WC to create a unique situation we can massively benefit from. There's an outside chance we could actually win the fucking league this year. 

Well said that man. Many others will have had the thought. 

[Izakaya]

13 hours ago, 54 said:

Next weeks fixtures:

 

Spurs Vs Liverpool

Chelsea Vs Arsenal 

Southampton Vs Newcastle

 

Draw 

Draw 

Win...

 

...And I'll be done for wanking on Flinders St steps. 

[STM]

Worth noting that we are 10 points above West Ham, who are one of the only squads, I believe, which are capable of competing for 7th.

 

I know right now we are in 4th but for the purposes of sanity, I won't get ahead of myself.

 

 

Edited October 30, 2022 by STM

[Kid Icarus]

Should be the 7th-and-above-ometer

[Coffee_Johnny]

Here’s the trajectory chart, constructed in the summer and updated as of end of October. This shows projected route towards a top eight finish, taking account of opposite quality (four tiers based on last season’s finishing position and whether games fall home or away) and using 56 points as a target. Unsurprisingly we are ahead of the curve (by three points). Anything we get in the two November games is a bonus. 
 

[Hovagod]

23 minutes ago, STM said:

Worth noting that we are 10 points above West Ham, who are one of the only squads, I believe, which are capable of competing for 7th.

 

I know right now we are in 4th but for the purposes of sanity, I won't get ahead of myself.

 

 

 

On this note, who are we supporting today? 

[wormy]

3 minutes ago, Hovagod said:

On this note, who are we supporting today? 

 

I'll hedge my bets and hope for a draw but won't cry over a West Ham win.

[STM]

6 minutes ago, Hovagod said:

On this note, who are we supporting today? 

Draws, cards and injuries please.

[Hovagod]

2 minutes ago, wormy said:

 

I'll hedge my bets and hope for a draw but won't cry over a West Ham win.

I’m evidently a deluded Geordie because before seeing West Ham brought up, it never occurred to me to consider anything other than a Man Utd loss as being the best result for us.

[Yorkie]

I don't think there's a bad result either way, tbh.

 

4 points ahead of ManU & 7 points ahead of West Ham,

 

or

 

1 point ahead of ManU & 10 points ahead of West Ham. 

 

 

Either of those outcomes are decent. 

[GWN]

On 28/10/2022 at 19:19, Miggys First Goal said:

We’re winning a cup this season. FA or League. Think the owners will splash more cash in January to ensure that happens. 

In a final we will probably come up against a Man City and we aren’t at that level yet , even Chelsea in a final or Liverpool I think we’d lose .

 

We aren’t ready to win anything yet , just my opinion .

[Pata]

This expected points table is so impressive. Brighton in top 4 with a game in hand too.

 

 

 

 

Edited October 30, 2022 by Pata

[Guest]

60 points target.

 

We need at home 7 more wins & no more draws (21 points to go)

 

We need away from home 5 more wins & 0 more draws (15 points to go)

  

Nottingham Forest (H)- 3 points required - 3 points won (On track for 60 points)

Brighton (A) - 0 points required - 1 point won (On track for 61 points)

Manchester City (H) - 0 points required - 1 point won (On track for 62 points)

Wolves (A) - 0 points required - 1 point won (On track for 62 points)

Liverpool (A) - 0 points required - 0 points won (On track for 62 points)

Crystal Palace (H) - 3 points required - 1 point won (On track for 60 points)

Bournemouth (H) - 3 points required - 1 point won (On track for 58 points)

Fulham (A) - 3 points required - 3 points won (On track for 58 points)

Brentford (H) - 3 points required - 3 points won (On track for 58 points)

Manchester United (A) - 0 points required - 1 point won (On track for 59 points)

Everton (H) - 3 points required - 3 points won (On track for 59 points)

Spurs (A) - 0 points required - 3 points won (On track for 62 points)

Aston Villa (H) - 3 points required - 3 points won

Southampton (A) - 3 points required

Chelsea (H) - 0 points required

Leicester (A) - 0 points required

Leeds (H) - 3 points required

Arsenal (A) - 0 points required

Fulham (H) - 3 points required

Crystal Palace (A) - 0 points required (originally 1 point required)

West Ham (H) - 3 points required (originally 1 point)

Bournemouth (A) - 3 points required

Liverpool (H) - 0 points required

Brighton (H) - 3 points required

Man City (A) - 0 points required

Wolves (H) - 3 points required

Nottingham Forest (A) - 3 points required

Manchester United (H) - 0 points required (originally 1 point required)

Brentford (A) - 0 points required (originally 1 point required)

Aston Villa (A) - 0 points required (originally 3)

Spurs (H) - 0 points required

Everton (A) - 3 points required

Southampton (H) - 3 points required

Arsenal (H) - 0 points required

Leeds (A) - 3 points required

Leicester (H) - 3 points required (was 1 point)

Chelsea (A) - 0 points required

West Ham (A) - 0 points required

[Superior Acuña]

1 hour ago, Optimistic Nut said:

60 points target.

 

We need at home 7 more wins & no more draws (21 points to go)

 

We need away from home 5 more wins & 0 more draws (15 points to go)

  

Nottingham Forest (H)- 3 points required - 3 points won (On track for 60 points)

Brighton (A) - 0 points required - 1 point won (On track for 61 points)

Manchester City (H) - 0 points required - 1 point won (On track for 62 points)

Wolves (A) - 0 points required - 1 point won (On track for 62 points)

Liverpool (A) - 0 points required - 0 points won (On track for 62 points)

Crystal Palace (H) - 3 points required - 1 point won (On track for 60 points)

Bournemouth (H) - 3 points required - 1 point won (On track for 58 points)

Fulham (A) - 3 points required - 3 points won (On track for 58 points)

Brentford (H) - 3 points required - 3 points won (On track for 58 points)

Manchester United (A) - 0 points required - 1 point won (On track for 59 points)

Everton (H) - 3 points required - 3 points won (On track for 59 points)

Spurs (A) - 0 points required - 3 points won (On track for 62 points)

Aston Villa (H) - 3 points required - 3 points won

Southampton (A) - 3 points required

Chelsea (H) - 0 points required

Leicester (A) - 0 points required

Leeds (H) - 3 points required

Arsenal (A) - 0 points required

Fulham (H) - 3 points required

Crystal Palace (A) - 0 points required (originally 1 point required)

West Ham (H) - 3 points required (originally 1 point)

Bournemouth (A) - 3 points required

Liverpool (H) - 0 points required

Brighton (H) - 3 points required

Man City (A) - 0 points required

Wolves (H) - 3 points required

Nottingham Forest (A) - 3 points required

Manchester United (H) - 0 points required (originally 1 point required)

Brentford (A) - 0 points required (originally 1 point required)

Aston Villa (A) - 0 points required (originally 3)

Spurs (H) - 0 points required

Everton (A) - 3 points required

Southampton (H) - 3 points required

Arsenal (H) - 0 points required

Leeds (A) - 3 points required

Leicester (H) - 3 points required (was 1 point)

Chelsea (A) - 0 points required

West Ham (A) - 0 points required

 

6 points from the next 5 games then. I'm still not able to go to an away game expecting a win, so can see us not getting 3 at Southampton. But between all those games I'd fancy us to get 5 or 6 points.

[ExiledGeordie]

Im actually pretty confident of overpowering Chelsea at home. Their defence isn’t at it this season and the atmosphere at St James will be ludicrous. We’ll hopefully have a fully fit Saint by then too ?

[Kid Icarus]

For some reason I woke up dreaming about how I need to work our cumulative and average goal difference during the Ashley years compared to now

 

As you can probably guess, it's horrific.

 

Over 12 seasons it's:

 

-168 cumulative
-14 average

 

Even if you include the +55 and +45 Championship seasons it's:

 

-68 cumulative 

-5 average 

 

The first proper season without Ashley and we've immediately bettered our goal difference for this stage of the season than at any time in the Premier League under him.

 

It's proper Théodin comes out from under Saruman's spell level stuff.

[Stottie]

Best SBR season for points was 01/02 which was fourth with

P38 W21 D8 L9 F74 A52 GD22 Pts 71

 

Howe NUFC in 2022

P32 W18 D8 L6 F48 A31 GD17 Pts 62 

 

As the starting point, on Jan 1 2022 we were 19th place in the league with a record of

P19 W1 D8 L10 F19 A42 GD-23 Pts 11

 

 

Edited October 31, 2022 by Stottie

[gbandit]

That points total for 2022 is absolutely absurd, when you consider what went before it. Defies belief what Howe has done to transform this club. I know we’ve had great buy-in from the owners, made some great transfers etc and it requires everyone pulling in the same direction to have this sort of success but it all comes back to one man eventually and that’s Howe 

[PauloGeordio]

56 minutes ago, gbandit said:

That points total for 2022 is absolutely absurd, when you consider what went before it. Defies belief what Howe has done to transform this club. I know we’ve had great buy-in from the owners, made some great transfers etc and it requires everyone pulling in the same direction to have this sort of success but it all comes back to one man eventually and that’s Howe 

Exactly, Howe the fuck? 

[Colos Short and Curlies]

1 hour ago, gbandit said:

That points total for 2022 is absolutely absurd, when you consider what went before it. Defies belief what Howe has done to transform this club. I know we’ve had great buy-in from the owners, made some great transfers etc and it requires everyone pulling in the same direction to have this sort of success but it all comes back to one man eventually and that’s Howe 

 

Its often said that this club is like a juggernaut once the momentum builds and everyone pulls in the same direction. Add to your list the likes of Wor Flags and the crowd as a whole, coupled with the general feeling of something special brewing in the City and you get that huge sense of everyone pulling together.

 

Of course the opposite is true when we are fragmented and on a downturn, it takes a lot to stop the rot.

[Coffee_Johnny]

Just looked detail at our record under Eddie Howe and his merry band. Two time periods. Since, first his official first game in charge, Norwich at home. Second, allowing him a six game period/month or so to have an influence, since January this year. 
 

First/Total: P38, W19, D10, L 9, Pts 67; F53, A43, GD10. Points per game (PPG) 1.76.

 

2022 only:

P32, W18, D8, L6, Pts 62; F49, A30, GD 19. PPG 1.94.

 

In the 30 EPL seasons to date, 1.94 PPG would have been enough for a 2nd place finish on 6 occasions; 3rd  16 times; 4th 26 times; and enough for 5th on 29 of the 30. If within one season, it would represent our second best return (2.05 ppg in 95-96 was our best;  2nd in 96-97 was less, 1.79ppg). 
 

There can be no doubt that we are, and have been for 32 games, on top four form. Almost nailed on for top six ‘if’ it continues. Big if, but much better to be able to say we just need to keep doing what we are going, this season and last, rather than aspiring to a level of performance we have yet to hit. 
 

[ScottishMagpie]

5 hours ago, Kid Icarus said:

For some reason I woke up dreaming about how I need to work our cumulative and average goal difference during the Ashley years compared to now

 

As you can probably guess, it's horrific.

 

Over 12 seasons it's:

 

-168 cumulative
-14 average

 

Even if you include the +55 and +45 Championship seasons it's:

 

-68 cumulative 

-5 average 

 

The first proper season without Ashley and we've immediately bettered our goal difference for this stage of the season than at any time in the Premier League under him.

 

It's proper Théodin comes out from under Saruman's spell level stuff.

Sorry........ that first sentence!!!  

[Mahoneys Tache]

I predicted we’d surprise people, including ourselves. We’re 4th on merit and on the back of injury problems. When Isak, St Max are back and Almiron tearing things up in a way no one expected suggests that things are only going to get better. Longstaff is clearly doing what Howe wants him to as well. It might be a stretch to say it this early but top four is a possibility with the current squad and a fair wind. Any transfers in January are a bonus. 
best defence in the league, one be defeat  and I think third best goal difference? That’s top four form. 

[Kanj]

Really hope we end before the WC break with 2 wins, but i'd be 100% happy with a win and draw. 1 loss before the cup only feels very very important to me.