Paullow Posted October 20, 2022 Share Posted October 20, 2022 How does Europe work this year. Everyone assumes 7th is Europa Conference, but is that dependent on the cups being won (as usual) by the big 6, or rather 5, as Tottenham never win anything? Or would the PL get an extra place if say a Palace or equivalent won one of the cups? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
duo Posted October 20, 2022 Share Posted October 20, 2022 4 hours ago, RodneyCisse said: 6 points from 4 would be great. We'll win the lot Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
NWMag Posted October 20, 2022 Share Posted October 20, 2022 47 minutes ago, Paullow said: How does Europe work this year. Everyone assumes 7th is Europa Conference, but is that dependent on the cups being won (as usual) by the big 6, or rather 5, as Tottenham never win anything? Or would the PL get an extra place if say a Palace or equivalent won one of the cups? It depends on cup wins yes, 7th only gets a spot if both of the cup winners finish top I think Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
madras Posted October 20, 2022 Share Posted October 20, 2022 18 minutes ago, NWMag said: It depends on cup wins yes, 7th only gets a spot if both of the cup winners finish top I think And what if an English team wins the Champions league ? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
NWMag Posted October 20, 2022 Share Posted October 20, 2022 2 hours ago, madras said: And what if an English team wins the Champions league ? https://www.premierleague.com/european-qualification-explained Below is a breakdown of how Premier League clubs can qualify to play in UEFA competitions, along with which tournament each qualified club will play in. Ordinarily, the maximum number of English teams in UEFA competitions is seven. (Please note UEFA reserves the right to change the conditions of the access list so these criteria can be subject to change.) UEFA Champions League (UCL) qualification In normal circumstances, four UCL places are given to English clubs who fulfil the following criteria: The top four teams in the Premier League qualify for the group stage proper. UEFA Europa League (UEL) qualification In normal circumstances, two UEL places are given to English clubs who fulfil the following criteria: The fifth-placed team in the Premier League qualify for the group stage proper. The winners of the FA Cup qualify for the group stage proper. UEFA Europa Conference League (UECL) qualification The EFL Cup winners qualify for the playoff stages. Where these qualifications changes a) If the FA Cup winners finish in the top five of the Premier League, their UEL group stage place will go to the next-highest ranked team not qualified for UEFA competitions in the Premier League. b) If the EFL Cup winners finish in the top five of the Premier League (or top six if (a) happens), their UECL playoff place will go to the next-highest ranked team not qualified for UEFA competitions in the Premier League. How does winning UCL/UEL affect qualification? Should a Premier League club win the UEFA Champions League they will automatically qualify for the group stage of next season's competition regardless of their league finishing position. Should a Premier League club win the UEFA Europa League they will automatically qualify for the group stage of next season's UEFA Champions League regardless of their league finishing position. If a club win the UEFA Champions League or UEFA Europa League and finish in the top four, their qualification for the UCL through their league position is not transferred to another team. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yorkie Posted October 20, 2022 Share Posted October 20, 2022 4 hours ago, HaydnNUFC said: We started Wood, Fraser and Murphy as a front 3 in 4 games last season. 3 wins, 1 draw. Think they'd do okay against Djurgårdens and CFR Cluj tbh. You coming round to the ECL idea now it's definitely gonna happen like? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
HaydnNUFC Posted October 20, 2022 Share Posted October 20, 2022 22 minutes ago, Yorkie said: You coming round to the ECL idea now it's definitely gonna happen like? Now that there's a very strong chance we're going to be in it, of course. Obviously I'd much rather be in the Europa League but you take what you can get as I can't see us overhauling any of the 'big 6' this season barring one of them falling apart. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
cubaricho Posted October 20, 2022 Share Posted October 20, 2022 5 minutes ago, HaydnNUFC said: Now that there's a very strong chance we're going to be in it, of course. Obviously I'd much rather be in the Europa League but you take what you can get as I can't see us overhauling any of the 'big 6' this season barring one of them falling apart. It’ll be some class away days for our fans for sure. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Superior Acuña Posted October 20, 2022 Share Posted October 20, 2022 I was against the conference but think it was helped a lot already just by having two big clubs in the final this year - Mourinho's Roma v Feyernord. Kept forgetting that was the conference and not the Europa, given the Europa was Rangers v Frankfurt. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Decky Posted October 20, 2022 Share Posted October 20, 2022 7 hours ago, The College Dropout said: As this current squad stands? You think they could get through to the last 16 of a European competition with Chris Wood flanked by Fraser & Murphy? 2 more transfer windows and it might be Wilson starting those kinda games with Wood playing for someone else. Same with the other two. I think a lot of emphasis next summer is gonna be on bolstering the squad depth. Plus we'll have a 3rd window (Jan 24) for the later stages of the competition. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paullow Posted October 21, 2022 Share Posted October 21, 2022 Imagine finishing in the top 6 for the time in years and not even qualifying for the Europa Conference . I guess it sort of happened in my first season of following football back in 1995 when we finished 6th - I remember wanting Man Utd to beat Everton in the FA Cup final as I knew it would benefit us, although not fully understanding what was going on, ha. I guess for now, assuming we don't, I'll be hoping the 'big' clubs do well in the cups to keep the 7th door open. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
HaydnNUFC Posted October 21, 2022 Share Posted October 21, 2022 1 hour ago, Paullow said: Imagine finishing in the top 6 for the time in years and not even qualifying for the Europa Conference . I guess it sort of happened in my first season of following football back in 1995 when we finished 6th - I remember wanting Man Utd to beat Everton in the FA Cup final as I knew it would benefit us, although not fully understanding what was going on, ha. I guess for now, assuming we don't, I'll be hoping the 'big' clubs do well in the cups to keep the 7th door open. As it stands right now, 5th gets EL and 6th gets ECL, all depends on the FA Cup winners really tbh. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted October 21, 2022 Share Posted October 21, 2022 Think the odds of a non-top 6 club winning a cup are slim these days so 7th will 90% do it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RodneyCisse Posted October 21, 2022 Share Posted October 21, 2022 5 hours ago, HaydnNUFC said: As it stands right now, 5th gets EL and 6th gets ECL, all depends on the FA Cup winners really tbh. We’ll just win the FA cup and be done with it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
STM Posted October 21, 2022 Share Posted October 21, 2022 On a target of 1.5 PPG, we are currently tracking at 1.63 PPG. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The College Dropout Posted October 21, 2022 Share Posted October 21, 2022 Also it doesn't look like any other club will keep pace with the top 6 like West Ham or Leicester have done in the last couple of years. I think as low as 56 points may seal 7th. I also think there will be a proper midtable for once and 4-5 real strugglers. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paullow Posted October 21, 2022 Share Posted October 21, 2022 7 hours ago, HaydnNUFC said: As it stands right now, 5th gets EL and 6th gets ECL, all depends on the FA Cup winners really tbh. I read it as 5th gets EL and the League Cup winner gets ECL, 7 European spots in total for the PL, and if both cups are won by non top 6 sides (very unlikely, of course) then only the top 5 will qualify for Europe via the league. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
STM Posted October 22, 2022 Share Posted October 22, 2022 End the weekend in 6th again, unless Brighton beat City and we lose to Spurs AND there is a 6 goal swing. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigfella Posted October 22, 2022 Share Posted October 22, 2022 6 minutes ago, STM said: End the weekend in 6th again, unless Brighton beat City and we lose to Spurs AND there is a 6 goal swing. Not fancy 4th or 5th like? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRon Posted October 22, 2022 Share Posted October 22, 2022 On 21/10/2022 at 05:04, Optimistic Nut said: Think the odds of a non-top 6 club winning a cup are slim these days so 7th will 90% do it. Hope so because 7th is definitely doable, but breaking into that top 6 might take another season yet. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
STM Posted October 22, 2022 Share Posted October 22, 2022 24 minutes ago, bigfella said: Not fancy 4th or 5th like? That's the spirit ? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted October 22, 2022 Share Posted October 22, 2022 We can do this can't we. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geogaddi Posted October 22, 2022 Share Posted October 22, 2022 (edited) Said it before and will say it again , 7th is the lowest we are finishing , having the likes of Murphy and Longstaff still playing on a regular basis with the likes of Wood and Fraser still getting game time is the difference between us finishing 7th and 4th but no way will we be below 7th. Edited October 22, 2022 by Geogaddi Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
cubaricho Posted October 22, 2022 Share Posted October 22, 2022 2 minutes ago, Optimistic Nut said: We can do this can't we. We’ve given a game to every team we’ve played, home and away. We’re one 98th minute goal from being unbeaten. I’m not scared of anyone. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Awaymag Posted October 22, 2022 Share Posted October 22, 2022 1 hour ago, cubaricho said: We’ve given a game to every team we’ve played, home and away. We’re one 98th minute goal from being unbeaten. I’m not scared of anyone. oh a hard lad are we...............pathetic! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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