The Butcher Posted January 23, 2023 Share Posted January 23, 2023 It's hard to judge any player when they're playing under a manager as bad as Lampard. Everton have some good players imo and they'll improve when they get a proper manager in. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
simonsays Posted January 23, 2023 Share Posted January 23, 2023 11 minutes ago, GEFAFWISP said: I think that image provides one of many data points and it doesn't speak well of either player really, irrespective of the team around them. Use it how you want. I also don't think Gordon passes the eye test either. If the eye test is that he doesn't make them bleed when you look at his face, then I agree. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Prophet Posted January 23, 2023 Share Posted January 23, 2023 Gordon was Everton's best player when they came to SJP last season. I'm not mad about him, I'm just trying to add a bit of balance. I do think there's better options out there for the alleged fee, he'd be an instant upgrade on Murphy and has the potential ceiling to be a decent improvement on Almiron. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheBrownBottle Posted January 23, 2023 Share Posted January 23, 2023 1 hour ago, GEFAFWISP said: Shamelessly stolen from Reddit; No buy. This guy isn't good enough and he's a cheating rat to boot. Meaningless stuff a lot of this - football fans thinking that they're watching baseball. And even with that, think about the only stats that really count for forwards; goals and assists in his PL career. His assist ratio is better than Almiron's, and his goal ratio is similar - and that's allowing for Almiron's purple patch this season. On that basis, looking only at those statistics, most would sign Gordon ahead of Almiron, given his age. I wouldn't, but the point is that these comparatives are basically worthless. If Howe wants him (no idea if he does), that's enough for me. As fun as it is discussing this stuff on here, I'm at a loss when people state 'we shouldn't be signing X'. I'll ultimately trust the man in the dugout. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The College Dropout Posted January 23, 2023 Share Posted January 23, 2023 1 hour ago, The Prophet said: A 21 year old being coached by Frank Lampard in a relegation battle v a 27 year old being coached by Eddie Howe in a European push. Murphy's stats aren't any good either. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Prophet Posted January 23, 2023 Share Posted January 23, 2023 1 minute ago, The College Dropout said: Murphy's stats aren't any good either. My point was that a stat sheet implying that he's no better than Murphy is a bit misleading. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
GEFAFWISP Posted January 23, 2023 Share Posted January 23, 2023 (edited) I assumed people understood that is was one frame of reference amongst many. Guess not. It is indicative, not the whole picture. Edited January 23, 2023 by GEFAFWISP Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheBrownBottle Posted January 23, 2023 Share Posted January 23, 2023 6 minutes ago, GEFAFWISP said: I assumed people understood that is was one frame of reference amongst many. Guess not. It is indicative, not the whole picture. No, there is no failure to understand. People have picked and chosen statistics to back up their own opinion for as long as statistics have existed. It isn't a comprehension issue. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted January 23, 2023 Share Posted January 23, 2023 WHy won't this link go away. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
St1pe Posted January 23, 2023 Share Posted January 23, 2023 Their new manger will want a look at him. We’re safe I think. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted January 23, 2023 Share Posted January 23, 2023 Just now, St1pe said: Their new manger will want a look at him. We’re safe I think. Not if they need money to sack Lampard Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
dave s Posted January 23, 2023 Share Posted January 23, 2023 if Eddie signs him I’ll trust his judgement. hasn’t put a foot wrong yet. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lush Vlad Posted January 23, 2023 Share Posted January 23, 2023 1 hour ago, St1pe said: Their new manger will want a look at him. We’re safe I think. I hope so. Really don’t want us to sign him. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
OverThere Posted January 23, 2023 Share Posted January 23, 2023 Murphy Mark 2 with a much worse attitude. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Posted January 24, 2023 Share Posted January 24, 2023 Second fastest player in the league according to the PL. Mudryk already the fastest. Paul Dummett waiting in the wings. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest reefatoon Posted January 24, 2023 Share Posted January 24, 2023 Really don’t fancy this little shit hawk. Hope crazy Chelsea beat us to the punch. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dokko Posted January 24, 2023 Share Posted January 24, 2023 Has there been any whiff of him causing trouble off the pitch? Apart from his dire dress sense, but hey seems to be an Everton epidemic. In a winning team managed by Howe you'd be buying the Gordon of last season not this one. Everything is toxic at Everton, those who escape it will lift themselves massively. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kid Icarus Posted January 24, 2023 Share Posted January 24, 2023 Faster than Traore? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toonjam88 Posted January 24, 2023 Share Posted January 24, 2023 10 minutes ago, Kid Icarus said: Faster than Traore? He just keeps slipping over due to all of the baby oil on him so they can’t get a time. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
54 Posted January 24, 2023 Share Posted January 24, 2023 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Butcher Posted January 24, 2023 Share Posted January 24, 2023 Honestly think he'd be an absolute star here. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colos Short and Curlies Posted January 24, 2023 Share Posted January 24, 2023 My main reservation about Gordon is a question on whether he is the right type of player we need now. If our problem is breaking teams down who sit back then a speed merchant isn't the answer, we need a lock picker or a posse of midfielders who can shoot from distance Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheBrownBottle Posted January 24, 2023 Share Posted January 24, 2023 2 minutes ago, The Butcher said: Honestly think he'd be an absolute star here. I'd definitely trust Howe to develop and maximise the lad's talents if he joins. Everton are a broken mess at the moment (we've been there and done that - we've seen what that can do to young players; there's no way that Ivan Toney or Mitrovic would be playing like there are at present if they'd continued their development at late-era Ashley NUFC) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Willow Posted January 24, 2023 Share Posted January 24, 2023 I also believe he'd do really well here but understand people's reservations. He's still so young and with our coaching he'd only get better and better. I fully trust in our set-up so this next week could be very interesting. (The only player I really wouldn't want is McTominay though, that'd be such a backwards step for us) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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