madras Posted January 27, 2023 Share Posted January 27, 2023 Just now, The College Dropout said: One of them will much more often than the other over time (most likely) if both are fit. Liverpool have been amazing for 5 years. You could name their ideal team 10 out of 11 players. Maybe 9. Ditto Real Madrid. Ditto even Tuchel’s Chelsea. Injuries and European football is the biggest factor for rotation With Liverpool couldnit as much be that they can't afford to get the squad they want? And Tuchels Chelsea as he seems to like it that way Your final sentence is on the money and hopefully that's where we are headed. It doesn't have to be for every position but a midfield/attacker or two can play both sides and press is an ideal alternative starter in our system. I'd also have 3 first choice Centre halves to pick from for each match and 2 through the middle forwards. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gazza ladra Posted January 27, 2023 Share Posted January 27, 2023 (edited) 1 minute ago, Wolfcastle said: Same people that hated Rafa and want Big Dunc as manager mind Same people bragged about get Tarkowski while we got someone they never heard of from France. Edited January 27, 2023 by gazza ladra Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wolfcastle Posted January 27, 2023 Share Posted January 27, 2023 They weren't disappointed to lose Beardsley or Speed to us either. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paullow Posted January 27, 2023 Share Posted January 27, 2023 Yep, you just need look at the difference between Joelinton and Almiron now to how they were under Bruce / Ashley - a club with no direction, no real future, apathy / discontent in the crowd, poor coaching staff, poor players around them. Pretty much all that has changed here in the past 12 months, while it has been rife at Everton these past 6 months, so it's bound to have had an impact on his progression and development. I'm confident this will be a good deal for us. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Prophet Posted January 27, 2023 Share Posted January 27, 2023 7 minutes ago, Conjo said: Well, one of the strikers are at Man Utd now after having scored 2 goals in the WC quarter final. The other just got binned to Nottingham Forest. Easy to say in hindsight, but completely valid concern at the time imo. My expectations of this transfer is pretty poor, so at least one positive is that I can only be surprised positively if he ends up doing well for us. I prefer the selling team fans to be gutted when they lose a player. Vast majority are over the moon. And that's just three recent random pages from their forum out of many. Get yourself into the Joelinton and Almiron threads during peak Bruce era. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nine Posted January 27, 2023 Share Posted January 27, 2023 They really are the scouse mackems.. player leaves and he’s unanimously shit Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dandy Man Posted January 27, 2023 Share Posted January 27, 2023 As much as I agree that fans of teams are generally best positioned to make judgements on their players, are we really saying that GrandOldTeam is a valid reference point (for anything) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jdckelly Posted January 27, 2023 Share Posted January 27, 2023 Just now, Nine said: They really are the scouse mackems.. player leaves and he’s unanimously shit every football fan is like that, though the manner of Gordon leaving would leave a bad taste in any fans mouth let alone for an academy product to do that while they're so much in the shit Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whitley mag Posted January 27, 2023 Share Posted January 27, 2023 Can’t wait for the game down there they’ll be fucking frothing. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shadow Puppets Posted January 27, 2023 Share Posted January 27, 2023 I’m going to go out on a limb in and say that he’ll be an excellent player for us… give Eddie 6 months with him and his energy and pace will be a key component of our play. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
soyt Posted January 27, 2023 Share Posted January 27, 2023 (edited) Who cares what they think in redcafe or everton forum or anywhere, why would they say complimentary things about us or any other team? It seems that our manager and club see Gordon as a huge talent and i cant wait to see what he can do in our setup. If Howe's dreams are made of this, who am i to disagree..? Edited January 27, 2023 by soyt Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vinny Green Balls Posted January 27, 2023 Share Posted January 27, 2023 Dan Ashworth has a fantastic rep of picking up good players. From his time at Brighton, he has earned at least a little trust of his judgment. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronaldo Posted January 27, 2023 Share Posted January 27, 2023 7 minutes ago, The Butcher said: He's played for a finished Rafa and a piss poor Frank Lampard. He'll thrive at the Toon with the right coaching. He'll be a massive success here. So fucking disrespectful. ‘A finished Rafa’ man. The same Rafa who had our shit squad finishing the season brilliantly 2 1/2 years previous. What sort a fan comes out with that utter garbage? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shearergol Posted January 27, 2023 Share Posted January 27, 2023 Wood out, Gordon in. Great business. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Conjo Posted January 27, 2023 Share Posted January 27, 2023 3 minutes ago, The Prophet said: Get yourself into the Joelinton and Almiron threads during peak Bruce era. I wouldn't be ecstatic if we signed Joelinton now if he played for Everton & hadn't had a Norwich performance yet either. So it can only go one way from here, and that is up Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteV Posted January 27, 2023 Share Posted January 27, 2023 14 minutes ago, Conjo said: Well, one of the strikers are at Man Utd now after having scored 2 goals in the WC quarter final. The other just got binned to Nottingham Forest. Easy to say in hindsight, but completely valid concern at the time imo. My expectations of this transfer is pretty poor, so at least one positive is that I can only be surprised positively if he ends up doing well for us. I prefer the selling team fans to be gutted when they lose a player. Vast majority are over the moon. And that's just three recent random pages from their forum out of many. Be interesting to see some quotes from that thread from 6/8 months ago Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bowlingcrofty Posted January 27, 2023 Share Posted January 27, 2023 Just now, Ronaldo said: So fucking disrespectful. ‘A finished Rafa’ man. The same Rafa who had our shit squad finishing the season brilliantly 2 1/2 years previous. What sort a fan comes out with that utter garbage? Yes, some people are quick to forget we wouldn’t have had this takeover without Rafa, and we’d more than likely be scraping round with the mackems and boro for a playoff spot to come back up. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Butcher Posted January 27, 2023 Share Posted January 27, 2023 2 minutes ago, Ronaldo said: So fucking disrespectful. ‘A finished Rafa’ man. The same Rafa who had our shit squad finishing the season brilliantly 2 1/2 years previous. What sort a fan comes out with that utter garbage? It has nothing to do with what he did for us. He failed in China and at Everton. He's most likely finished at the top level. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Conjo Posted January 27, 2023 Share Posted January 27, 2023 (edited) 4 minutes ago, SteV said: Be interesting to see some quotes from that thread from 6/8 months ago Quote No idea why they haven’t tried to get St Maximin out of Newcastle instead. Quote Newcastle don’t need to sell so they’d probably want £100m for him Quote Have accepted we've messed up our chance to get mega millions for an average player and give ourselves a fighting chance of avoiding relegation. Championship next season. Quote Parallels to Zaha here - Palace should have sold him when the top offers came in Quote Conor Gallagher is a better player than Gordon at this moment in time, though. We cannot afford to be sentimental in our current plight and while Gordon may well end up the better player of the two, any prospective deal that includes Broja and cash must be accepted IMO. Quote Chuckling at the general opinion in this thread changing drastically based on one goal against forest. gazzaa2 said: Good thing is his value will be higher then. I said before no way should we sell him yet and the bidding starts at 75 mill in Jan and United or City might join the race. Dear lord you’d think we had an absolute superstar on our hands reading delusional posts like this. Only one bid of £40m has actually been made and yet somehow all the best clubs will be offering double that in January for a guy seemingly no one considers to be worth that much other than the chap who paid £60m for cucarella Honorable mention Quote Frank Lampard has warned that Chelsea target Anthony Gordon would “see a different side to me” if the winger refused to play for Everton. Edited January 27, 2023 by Conjo Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mazzy Posted January 27, 2023 Share Posted January 27, 2023 4 minutes ago, Shearergol said: Wood out, Gordon in. Great business. When it's put that way it's hard to see why anyone would have an issue with this transfer. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Holloway Posted January 27, 2023 Share Posted January 27, 2023 It's hard not to side with the balanced individuals from Grand old Team Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronaldo Posted January 27, 2023 Share Posted January 27, 2023 4 minutes ago, The Butcher said: It has nothing to do with what he did for us. He failed in China and at Everton. He's most likely finished at the top level. Failed in China. Have a word with yourself. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kid Icarus Posted January 27, 2023 Share Posted January 27, 2023 (edited) Rafa's hardly finished at the top level though, Ancelotti could only get Everton to 10th, there are clearly bigger factors at play and the right environment is obviously a big factor. Look at Moyes and how he keeps going from success to failure to success, every day's a school day for managers that don't rest on their laurels. The knowledge that Rafa has doesn't become worthless overnight and he's obsessed with football. Edited January 27, 2023 by Kid Icarus Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Conjo Posted January 27, 2023 Share Posted January 27, 2023 2 minutes ago, Holloway said: It's hard not to side with the balanced individuals from Grand old Team I didn't include the unhinged posts, of which there were also many. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
GeordieDazzler Posted January 27, 2023 Share Posted January 27, 2023 Looking at the Grand Old team thread it seems he’s really suffered this season from being played out of position, esp up front centrally. Ashworth has always made a thing of buying players for specific needs. I expect we have a much more define position for him and will look to play to his strengths. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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