Ameritoon Posted February 16, 2023 Share Posted February 16, 2023 Is there a big drinky thing on that Saturday in Trafalgar Square or anywhere else? Debating if I should go to the QPR/Blackburn match or just get drunk with a bunch of Newcastle fans. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Holloway Posted February 16, 2023 Share Posted February 16, 2023 The hope that Shearer would deliver was running high for the Arsenal final,and he almost delivered. The remainder was a fairly nondescript surrender. There was quite a difference in the atmosphere around the city for the consecutive finals, the Arsenal one was some great carry on in the pubs and on the tube and that, the Man U was quite edgy and a bit toxic from what I can remember Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted February 16, 2023 Share Posted February 16, 2023 (edited) 23 minutes ago, STM said: Let's talk about 1998 and 1999 finals. A couple of things have struck me, while looking back (I was 10 at the time). 1. Unfortunate that we were managed by Dalglish and Ruud for them games, as opposed to Keegan and Robson who were in charge either side of them. 2. Also unfortunate that we played 2 of the best sides the league has had in Viera/Adams Arsenal and then Treble winning Man United. As opposed to Chelsea, who won it in 1997 and 2000. Can anyone recall expectations before those finals? It feels looking back as Newcastle were very much the underdogs to the champions. We also made some horrific defensive errors in both games. Goalkeeping was all over the place. I mean we had Laurent Chavet playing. Can't help but feel that we are much better equipped, certainly defensively. I remember we were clutching at straws a bit for the second Final with Man Utd having just won the title and having Bayern Munich in midweek. The hope was that was the one Ferguson would go all out for since that was the trophy that was eluding him, but we didn't lay a glove. I didn't think we stood a chance in 98, Arsenal were class. Edited February 16, 2023 by Optimistic Nut Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteV Posted February 16, 2023 Share Posted February 16, 2023 3 minutes ago, Ameritoon said: Is there a big drinky thing on that Saturday in Trafalgar Square or anywhere else? Debating if I should go to the QPR/Blackburn match or just get drunk with a bunch of Newcastle fans. Should have plenty time for both tbh Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scoot Posted February 16, 2023 Share Posted February 16, 2023 17 minutes ago, AyeDubbleYoo said: My memory before the games is that we basically had no chance. The opponents were just too good. This is how I remember those 2 finals. I was 13 and 14 for those 2 finals and remember not expecting us to win either. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Jinx Posted February 16, 2023 Share Posted February 16, 2023 I’m more worried about them sticking Rashford on Burn out wide than Trippier. A few weeks ago I was far more confident. Form is everything and ours has been slipping, while they have come right into it after a shocking start to the season. The Liverpool game at the weekend is still massively important, I think a win there would do the confidence wonders. Ten Haag is showing himself to be an excellent coach at this level. Don’t forget, most of this squad was absolute turd last season. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jaqen Posted February 16, 2023 Share Posted February 16, 2023 We are probably the perfect blend of being underdogs but with a very good chance for this one. As good as Man United are we are very difficult for anyone to beat. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whitley mag Posted February 16, 2023 Share Posted February 16, 2023 11 minutes ago, Ameritoon said: Is there a big drinky thing on that Saturday in Trafalgar Square or anywhere else? Debating if I should go to the QPR/Blackburn match or just get drunk with a bunch of Newcastle fans. Fuck QPR/Blackburn be more entertainment around the bars of KX and Covent Garden Saturday afternoon. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
STM Posted February 16, 2023 Share Posted February 16, 2023 We just need to make them doubt themselves. Go to war in the first half. We have the legs to beat them in the second. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sima Posted February 16, 2023 Share Posted February 16, 2023 (edited) We need Barcelona to put these through the wringer next week. We’re in relatively wretched form at the minute but Bruno being back will be a massive plus. Edited February 16, 2023 by Sima Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Prophet Posted February 16, 2023 Share Posted February 16, 2023 Wretched is s bit strong like, we're still unbeaten. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wandy Posted February 16, 2023 Share Posted February 16, 2023 We need a strong performance on Saturday to get us in the right frame of mind for the final. We really don't want to be going into it on the back of a poor display against the Dippers. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
nufc4eva Posted February 16, 2023 Share Posted February 16, 2023 Yeah our wretched form unbeaten in 18 league games. It's so awful at the moment it's unreal ? we have been on runs of draws before and then started run of wins again. We go into a final where we have a real chance compared to previous times Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sima Posted February 16, 2023 Share Posted February 16, 2023 I did say relatively tbf, but it is coming from a base of us rinsing teams before the WC break. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
OCOCOL Posted February 16, 2023 Share Posted February 16, 2023 1 hour ago, Holloway said: The hope that Shearer would deliver was running high for the Arsenal final,and he almost delivered. The remainder was a fairly nondescript surrender. There was quite a difference in the atmosphere around the city for the consecutive finals, the Arsenal one was some great carry on in the pubs and on the tube and that, the Man U was quite edgy and a bit toxic from what I can remember I was at both but in the 2nd it kicked off too if the bigg market afterwards with people trying to get the police. The police returned with dogs etc . My mate lost his job because he was in the chronicles yobs gallery despite (he claims and I believe him tbf) he was just watching charvas gan aka Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
geordiesteve710 Posted February 16, 2023 Share Posted February 16, 2023 2 hours ago, Likelylad said: My memory is a little vague only being 10/11 but I remember in 98 feeling like we were getting a foot hold in the game and then Shearer rattled the post. Then they scored the 2nd and game over. Could be wrong mind. That's fair comment I think. Dabizas had a header that clipped the bar a few minutes before Shearer's shot came back off the inside of the post. Looking back now I've no doubt that if we had equalised Arsenal would have just been stung into life again and it would have made no difference. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SUPERTOON Posted February 16, 2023 Share Posted February 16, 2023 1 hour ago, Dr Jinx said: I’m more worried about them sticking Rashford on Burn out wide than Trippier. A few weeks ago I was far more confident. Form is everything and ours has been slipping, while they have come right into it after a shocking start to the season. The Liverpool game at the weekend is still massively important, I think a win there would do the confidence wonders. Ten Haag is showing himself to be an excellent coach at this level. Don’t forget, most of this squad was absolute turd last season. I wouldn’t worry about that, Rashford is shit every single time he plays wide right Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
geordiesteve710 Posted February 16, 2023 Share Posted February 16, 2023 17 minutes ago, OCOCOL said: I was at both but in the 2nd it kicked off too if the bigg market afterwards with people trying to get the police. The police returned with dogs etc . My mate lost his job because he was in the chronicles yobs gallery despite (he claims and I believe him tbf) he was just watching charvas gan aka Fun fact, at least two sunderland fans from my school were involved in smashing up that phone box and visible on the front of the Ronnie. Always have a little chuckle to myself when I hear a mackem say "you would never catch us doing things like that." Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Armchair Pundit Posted February 16, 2023 Share Posted February 16, 2023 It seems to me that we have two camps on this: a blindly optimistic camp who's ignoring our numerous draws, recent lack of pressing, lack of intensity and poor passing since the World Cup and a nervy, pessimistic camp (of which I'm currently belonging to) who are convinced of a stark contrast between the pre-World Cup drive of the team where our recent performances seem to show us as either having been found out, too tired or gone off the boil. I'm hoping that something changes this weekend and convinces me that we've just been saving ourselves, but memories of the aftermath of two consecutive heart-breaking FA Cup final losses are eating away at me. I couldn't have gone to the final if I'd wanted to, so have arranged with one of my best mates (who happens to be a Man Utd fan) to go and watch the match in a pub... but as things stand I'm kind of dreading it now, I'm starting to think I'd rather watch it alone where I can just go into hiding if we don't turn up or bottle it. I should have more faith, I want to have more faith, maybe by the 26th I'll have settled down. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skeletor Posted February 17, 2023 Share Posted February 17, 2023 38 minutes ago, Armchair Pundit said: It seems to me that we have two camps on this: a blindly optimistic camp who's ignoring our numerous draws, recent lack of pressing, lack of intensity and poor passing since the World Cup and a nervy, pessimistic camp (of which I'm currently belonging to) who are convinced of a stark contrast between the pre-World Cup drive of the team where our recent performances seem to show us as either having been found out, too tired or gone off the boil. I'm hoping that something changes this weekend and convinces me that we've just been saving ourselves, but memories of the aftermath of two consecutive heart-breaking FA Cup final losses are eating away at me. I couldn't have gone to the final if I'd wanted to, so have arranged with one of my best mates (who happens to be a Man Utd fan) to go and watch the match in a pub... but as things stand I'm kind of dreading it now, I'm starting to think I'd rather watch it alone where I can just go into hiding if we don't turn up or bottle it. I should have more faith, I want to have more faith, maybe by the 26th I'll have settled down. I'm pessimistic purely because the idea of us actually winning something seems so alien to me. Also Rashford is in that form where it seems nailed on he's gonna score the winner. Like you I want to see some positives from the Liverpool game to make me feel more optimistic about the big day. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Posted February 17, 2023 Share Posted February 17, 2023 I’ll be putting any number of bets on Man United to lessen the blow. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
nufcjb Posted February 17, 2023 Share Posted February 17, 2023 With the way things are going with us and Rashford with them, its plain and simple. We can't be conceding anymore silly goals as our own scoring ability is very much at the low end right now. Previously, I was always confident that we were able to score from most of our attacks. That has lessened now. Rashford is in the form his life. Our defence needs to be in their ultra strong mode again and hopefully with Bruno back, our attacks are going to be more productive Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
GWN Posted February 17, 2023 Share Posted February 17, 2023 I couldn't put a bet on this match . 2 weeks ago I had this 55/45 in their favour I'm now at 65/35 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted February 17, 2023 Share Posted February 17, 2023 Not really worried about them. Rashford is the difference between us and he's up against the best defence in Europe this season so we hopefully nullify him. Casemiro is class but I'd be confident we can match their midfield if Bruno & Joelinton have 8/10 performances. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Froggy Posted February 17, 2023 Share Posted February 17, 2023 1 minute ago, Optimistic Nut said: Not really worried about them. Rashford is the difference between us and he's up against the best defence in Europe this season so we hopefully nullify him. Casemiro is class but I'd be confident we can match their midfield if Bruno & Joelinton have 8/10 performances. Feels like everyone in here is focusing far too much on Rashford. Who does he get the ball from? The plan from the opposition is and always should be to stop Bruno Fernandes. He's at the heart of nearly every goal we score, and is in double digits for goals himself. I'm just glad it's Rashford on the end of everything at the minute and not Weghorst. The ball from Bruno last night was absolutely sublime and Weghorst fluffed a glorious chance. Can't believe I'm psyched for Martial to come back again. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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