Toon No9 Posted Monday at 14:24 Share Posted Monday at 14:24 One way to go around the PSR rules here could be to sell a player before 30th june. Insert an option to buy him back one week later for say £500K more(as a thanks for the help to that club). Or is it a rule against that? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colos Short and Curlies Posted Monday at 14:25 Share Posted Monday at 14:25 There may well be a whiff of this being part of a longer power play by our owners. Drop a credible rumour in about how 2 teams are going to play the system, see the meltdown and hurried rule changes and bank this in the anti-competitiveness folder for after the City dealings are resolved Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colos Short and Curlies Posted Monday at 14:26 Share Posted Monday at 14:26 1 minute ago, Toon No9 said: One way to go around the PSR rules here could be to sell a player before 30th june. Insert an option to buy him back one week later for say £500K more(as a thanks for the help to that club). Or is it a rule against that? Nope Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JonBez comesock Posted Monday at 14:30 Share Posted Monday at 14:30 5 minutes ago, Toon No9 said: One way to go around the PSR rules here could be to sell a player before 30th june. Insert an option to buy him back one week later for say £500K more(as a thanks for the help to that club). Or is it a rule against that? Wouldn’t surprise me if this happens soon #Chelsea Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dokko Posted Monday at 14:43 Share Posted Monday at 14:43 Reckon the PL might have decided to move their psr date to 1st Sept in line with the transfer window. Doesnt work otherwise and now teams are dropping out of weird deals. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted Monday at 14:59 Share Posted Monday at 14:59 15 minutes ago, Dokko said: Reckon the PL might have decided to move their psr date to 1st Sept in line with the transfer window. Doesnt work otherwise and now teams are dropping out of weird deals. Do they have a mechanism to do that? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Jinx Posted Monday at 15:00 Share Posted Monday at 15:00 30 minutes ago, Toon No9 said: One way to go around the PSR rules here could be to sell a player before 30th june. Insert an option to buy him back one week later for say £500K more(as a thanks for the help to that club). Or is it a rule against that? Technically, it’s possible. A player can be registered with up to 3 clubs in a season but can only play minutes for 2 of those clubs. However, there’s an intent and integrity part in the rule book which would draw immediate and unwanted attention. If found to be in breach of that.. which we would be, we could get a points deduction, fined or even have a transfer ban slapped on us. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dokko Posted Monday at 15:01 Share Posted Monday at 15:01 Just now, AyeDubbleYoo said: Do they have a mechanism to do that? Sure the Uefa one is calender year, if so, this one is set by the PL therefore can be changed. Might be a vote, reckon it's an easy vote through as it helps plenty of teams. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BergenMagpie Posted Monday at 15:01 Share Posted Monday at 15:01 35 minutes ago, Toon No9 said: One way to go around the PSR rules here could be to sell a player before 30th june. Insert an option to buy him back one week later for say £500K more(as a thanks for the help to that club). Or is it a rule against that? Should call up Jimmy Ratcunt and ask him to buy Fraser for 15m with an option to buy him back for 20m next week - then not exercise the option Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colos Short and Curlies Posted Monday at 15:06 Share Posted Monday at 15:06 2 minutes ago, AyeDubbleYoo said: Do they have a mechanism to do that? The easiest way would be to require all clubs to have a year end of the 31st August and align the transfer window with that. The problem then is you have an accounting period spanning 2 league seasons and that opens up opportunities to play around with costs and income too much. The better way would be to make all year ends 30th June and require accounts to be filed with the Premier League by the 30th September along with a trading statement of player sales and purchases in the summer window. You would then base the PSR calculation on this to allow for a mitigation of breaches through the transfer window. When you get to next year then you would need to adjust that years calculation by whatever amount you needed to plug the hole this year to avoid sales being used twice. You would then also be able to settle all matters by Christmas Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Prophet Posted Monday at 16:38 Share Posted Monday at 16:38 Inflating player prices = bad faith. Selling property to yourself = good faith. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
nufc123 Posted Monday at 16:41 Share Posted Monday at 16:41 What...a...mess. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
brummie Posted Monday at 17:08 Share Posted Monday at 17:08 What a load of absolute horse shit. They set the stupid rules up to perpetually keep the same suspects - at least one of which only got there through cheating - at the top, and to force a situation whereby ambitious clubs are forced to sell their best players - esp home grown ones - most likely to those same clubs. So some clubs realise there’s a way around this if they have a mutual liking for each others players and structure the deal as not a swap. They *coughs* are doing nothing wrong at all. They’re maximising wriggle room within the rules. If that is not acceptable then it shows the rules are fundamentally flawed. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
midds Posted Monday at 17:44 Share Posted Monday at 17:44 33 minutes ago, brummie said: What a load of absolute horse shit. They set the stupid rules up to perpetually keep the same suspects - at least one of which only got there through cheating - at the top, and to force a situation whereby ambitious clubs are forced to sell their best players - esp home grown ones - most likely to those same clubs. So some clubs realise there’s a way around this if they have a mutual liking for each others players and structure the deal as not a swap. They *coughs* are doing nothing wrong at all. They’re maximising wriggle room within the rules. If that is not acceptable then it shows the rules are fundamentally flawed. Spot on. Even when other clubs are sticking to the pigshit rules they invented themselves they still find ways to complain when they're being challenged. Greedy, entitled, moaning, petrified cunts Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
brummie Posted Monday at 17:49 Share Posted Monday at 17:49 I genuinely don't know why they don't want other clubs competing, in any case. What's the problem? Does it fuck with their marketing plan being based on only six clubs who matter? The BBC clearly love that metric. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SUPERTOON Posted Monday at 17:50 Share Posted Monday at 17:50 We could always try and fight against them. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bimpy474 Posted Monday at 17:51 Share Posted Monday at 17:51 (edited) Clubs are not allowed to challenge the scummy six, feckin scared em have your mob {brummie's} and ours, they don't like it. Edited Monday at 17:52 by Bimpy474 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Abacus Posted Monday at 17:56 Share Posted Monday at 17:56 1 hour ago, The Prophet said: Inflating player prices = bad faith. Selling property to yourself = good faith. Bit of a coincidence Ratcliffe is trying to get Branthwaite for a knock down fee, knowing Everton would have been in trouble. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
et tu brute Posted Monday at 17:57 Share Posted Monday at 17:57 Even without the City case which just finished, it's only a matter of time before the whole thing collapses. More clubs are being affected and the noise in the media builds weekly Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
midds Posted Monday at 17:59 Share Posted Monday at 17:59 10 minutes ago, brummie said: I genuinely don't know why they don't want other clubs competing, in any case. What's the problem? Does it fuck with their marketing plan being based on only six clubs who matter? The BBC clearly love that metric. " But but but they might invest to strengthen their teams like we did a generation or 2 ago. They might improve really quickly. They might even become better than us....*gulps* " Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stifler Posted Monday at 18:01 Share Posted Monday at 18:01 3 minutes ago, et tu brute said: Even without the City case which just finished, it's only a matter of time before the whole thing collapses. More clubs are being affected and the noise in the media builds weekly Premier League literally pushing clubs to an ESL. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wolfcastle Posted Monday at 18:04 Share Posted Monday at 18:04 (edited) Weird the amount of effort they'll put in and amount of rules they'll change to keep the red clubs/Spurs happy. They ought to have a think about why they're putting so much legislation into football and jumping through so many hoops instead of just doing so and whether its worth it just to preserve a self annointed status quo. Especially if its fear of them breaking away. Edited Monday at 18:14 by Wolfcastle Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gbandit Posted Monday at 18:07 Share Posted Monday at 18:07 People go on about not wanting politics in football. Could football be any more political than it already is? You have endless lobbying by those with power to screw everyone else over, there’s corruption, dodgy deals galore but the big boys don’t have to face the same scrutiny or if they do, they find ways to bury it. It’s fucking disgusting how much the off-field stuff has seeped into affecting football since the late 90s. It’s only going to get worse too because capitalism doesn’t like to go backwards Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Numbers Posted Monday at 18:08 Share Posted Monday at 18:08 1 hour ago, The Prophet said: Inflating player prices = bad faith. Selling property to yourself = good faith. What a fucking shambles Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronson333 Posted Monday at 18:20 Share Posted Monday at 18:20 1 hour ago, The Prophet said: Inflating player prices = bad faith. Selling property to yourself = good faith. Article had to be by Martin Ziegler, who’s the biggest mouthpiece of the cartel six. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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