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9 minutes ago, The College Dropout said:

Selling the building of SJP will be worth a lot though surely. Or the leasehold.  Even at FMV.  

 

Not really in the context of the kind of money we'd need to raise to make a difference to PSR.

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3 hours ago, The College Dropout said:

To front load revenues so they can spend now?

 

Barcelona have been doing this for some time.  Selling off future revenue for revenue right here and now. They sold future rights so they could buy the likes of Lewa and Gundogan.  They are insane. 

Just like Shepherd did to try and land Rooney but we ended up with the likes of Boumsong.

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3 minutes ago, duo said:

I think it's clubs don't have to prove it's fmv anymore, the PL have to prove it isn't. Though I could be totally wrong ha

 

That is how I understand it also, the onus of proof has been transferred from the clubs to the Premier League.

 

I actually think that this is a big change in our favour, more than for most clubs, because of our rich Saudi business links.

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16 minutes ago, Keegans Export said:

Interesting that the FMV tests for sponsorship etc will still use an independent expert assesor but the tests for shareholder loans won't...

Is that because Shareholder Loans would be subject to market rates of interest and impacted by a clubs credit rating/risk?

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5 hours ago, timeEd32 said:

We’re approaching no excuses territory if we don’t get some deals announced soon.

 

I think it's getting to a point that we have to do something otherwise the question might arise whether PIF will remain committed to a project which won't deliver a trophy winning side. I know it is probably sacrilege to go there, but for the Saudis it would probably be a lot cleaner to sell up, then spend their gazillions on buying out Man U instead.

 

Not sure how it would work in the short term with them also being close to the PSR limit, but long term that wouldn't be an issue as they are already probably the biggest revenue generating machines. Ironic that FFP is geared to such a way that locks in the cartel advantage forever.

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Since these new rules came into place, we have already renegotiated with inPost.

 

I think it’s fair to assume that the club will be on it. I know a training kit/ground sponsor is annoying people, but these are top business people at the club, there will be a reason why they haven’t done it yet.

It’s not we are under Ashley, and Charnley anymore.

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Wonder if any potential Saudi based sponsors are waiting until the Saudi World Cup 2034 is supposedly confirmed today?

Would potentially have big Saudi companies looking to get their names out in advance of that, and the PL would have less argument about big sponsors with that event in the future? :dontknow:

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28 minutes ago, TRon said:

 

I think it's getting to a point that we have to do something otherwise the question might arise whether PIF will remain committed to a project which won't deliver a trophy winning side. I know it is probably sacrilege to go there, but for the Saudis it would probably be a lot cleaner to sell up, then spend their gazillions on buying out Man U instead.

 

Not sure how it would work in the short term with them also being close to the PSR limit, but long term that wouldn't be an issue as they are already probably the biggest revenue generating machines. Ironic that FFP is geared to such a way that locks in the cartel advantage forever.


Said it before, I haven’t seen any evidence to suggest they want to significantly invest to take us to where a lot are expecting outside of putting equity in on the day to day.

 

Playing Devil’s Advocate, there are a few KSA teams in the Club World Cup next summer. How much would they need to invest in us to get us to that level? What is the point?

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