et tu brute Posted November 24, 2023 Share Posted November 24, 2023 (edited) 21 minutes ago, RodneyCisse said: Jesus what a terrible take, I wonder how he felt when he woke up? Isn't it the idiot off ToffeeTv? Edited November 24, 2023 by et tu brute Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
macphisto Posted November 24, 2023 Share Posted November 24, 2023 1 hour ago, Geordie Ahmed said: He said if based on the previous seasons revenue there is a shortfall of cash owners have to put in the money there and then to show they can afford to sign players otherwise they will be stopped Now I don't know if that means there is no limit as to what they can spend or whether they have a limit but they still need to put the funds in at the start of the season I suppose his main point was, that the funding needs to be there to buy the players, I presume that is instead of relying on credit etc Cheers, I heard it as being limitless. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geordie Ahmed Posted November 24, 2023 Share Posted November 24, 2023 27 minutes ago, macphisto said: Cheers, I heard it as being limitless. Your post prompted me to have a look further into it, this link gives a bit more detail on it https://www.financialfairplay.co.uk/scmp.php The following pretty much confirms it is limitless if a wealthy owner wants to pump money in. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slim Posted November 24, 2023 Share Posted November 24, 2023 Fyi I'm ain't hating Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr.Spaceman Posted November 24, 2023 Share Posted November 24, 2023 WTAF Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The College Dropout Posted November 24, 2023 Share Posted November 24, 2023 Scouse Mackems has always been a weird statement. It’s a bit like calling Atleti, Madrid Mackems. Everton are a very big and historically successful club and ever presents in the PL. Mackems are not. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
madras Posted November 24, 2023 Share Posted November 24, 2023 (edited) 44 minutes ago, The College Dropout said: Scouse Mackems has always been a weird statement. It’s a bit like calling Atleti, Madrid Mackems. Everton are a very big and historically successful club and ever presents in the PL. Mackems are not. In my lifetime they were one of the big 5 (Them, Liverpool, Man Utd, Spurs, Arsenal), before Abramovic and SJH came along. However their OTT bitterness does mark them as Mackemlike. Edited November 24, 2023 by madras Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The College Dropout Posted November 24, 2023 Share Posted November 24, 2023 5 minutes ago, madras said: In my lifetime they were one of the big 5 (Them, Liverpool, Man Utd, Spurs, Arsenal), before Abramovic and SJH came along. However their OTT bitterness does mark them as Mackemlike. This is a fact. Them being in the PL every single year and rarely finishing above 7th in the last 25 years is amazing. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pixelphish Posted November 24, 2023 Share Posted November 24, 2023 1 hour ago, The College Dropout said: Scouse Mackems has always been a weird statement. It’s a bit like calling Atleti, Madrid Mackems. Everton are a very big and historically successful club and ever presents in the PL. Mackems are not. It's the mentality rather than the stature of the club. There is no doubt they're a large club historically. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colos Short and Curlies Posted November 26, 2023 Share Posted November 26, 2023 That 5 point gap looks bigger today than it did last night Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RodneyCisse Posted November 26, 2023 Share Posted November 26, 2023 Yeah, they’re potentially going to lose all confidence and implode. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Danh1 Posted November 26, 2023 Share Posted November 26, 2023 What chance do people reckon of them getting the points back, or the amount of deducted points being reduced? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pablo123 Posted November 26, 2023 Share Posted November 26, 2023 I think they'll be fine. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beth Posted November 26, 2023 Share Posted November 26, 2023 (edited) 32 minutes ago, Danh1 said: What chance do people reckon of them getting the points back, or the amount of deducted points being reduced? Depends where they are towards the end of the season. If they're ahead of the three promoted teams they won't get any reduction, if they're behind they will. Edited November 26, 2023 by Beth Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geordie Ahmed Posted November 26, 2023 Share Posted November 26, 2023 With the remaining 25 games can they outscore Luton by at least 5 points? I think they can and will But it might look a bit scary at times, especially if Luton can grab the odd win away They actually played well for a decent chunk of the game today once they managed to recover after conceding a wondergoal, should really have scored one of the numerous chances they created an they have been creating chances throughout the season so I don't see that suddenly changing Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteV Posted November 26, 2023 Share Posted November 26, 2023 39 minutes ago, Danh1 said: What chance do people reckon of them getting the points back, or the amount of deducted points being reduced? The guy (Nick somebody) who was on the Lineker/Shearer podcast, a journalist who covers this kind of thing, seemed to think there was no chance of it being overturned, but perhaps a chance of it being reduced. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RobsonsWonderland Posted November 26, 2023 Share Posted November 26, 2023 I'm still not sure why people (including Carragher) are questioning the points deduction... The club were pre-warned, continued to spend, still had saleable assets (pickford, Calvert lewin). It hasn't come out of the blue Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrRaspberryJam Posted November 26, 2023 Share Posted November 26, 2023 10 minutes ago, RobsonsWonderland said: I'm still not sure why people (including Carragher) are questioning the points deduction... The club were pre-warned, continued to spend, still had saleable assets (pickford, Calvert lewin). It hasn't come out of the blue Are they not questioning the amount they’ve been deducted? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RobsonsWonderland Posted November 26, 2023 Share Posted November 26, 2023 45 minutes ago, MrRaspberryJam said: Are they not questioning the amount they’ve been deducted? But it has to be a reasonable deterrent. If there is a line in the sand you can't just say that being 19 million pounds over is ok. But imagine if it was just three points and it had went through last season... Everton would have been relegated at Leicester's expense. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cronky Posted November 27, 2023 Share Posted November 27, 2023 10 hours ago, RobsonsWonderland said: But it has to be a reasonable deterrent. If there is a line in the sand you can't just say that being 19 million pounds over is ok. But imagine if it was just three points and it had went through last season... Everton would have been relegated at Leicester's expense. I agree with you. It's not just a matter of punishment - it needs to be a deterrent as well. Any club in danger of relegation might consider it's worth the risk of an overspend if the worst that's going to happen is a 10 point penalty the season afterwards. The financial penalty for relegation is huge. A bigger deterrent is the prospect of being sued by the clubs who stuck to the rules but got relegated as a result. However, we don't know how a case like that would be viewed by the courts. Incidentally, the £19m overspend is only the figure that Everton were prepared to admit to. The Premiership's view was nearly £100m. Everton were trying to use all sorts of dodgy devices to reduce the figure. What annoys me greatly is the idea that this punishment was unexpected. That is only lawyer-speak, but it is being taken up by politicians who should know better (ho ho). As with Man City, it was very obvious to any outsider that something dodgy was going on with the Everton spending, and the club had been in discussion with the Premiership for months beforehand. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cronky Posted November 27, 2023 Share Posted November 27, 2023 Sorry to go on a bit, but this is something I feel strongly about. From watching yesterday's scenes at Goodison, I'm concerned at how far these protests are going to go, if Everton fail to escape the relegation zone. We've seen their Directors forced to stay away from the ground due to plausible threats of violence, players accosted outside the ground, and fireworks let off at night outside a visiting team's hotel. There was also the Liverpool fans trying to intimidate a visiting team in the Champions League by organising a mob to surround the coach. Many Everton fans seem to think that violence or the threat of it is a legitimate tactic to use to their advantage against anyone. The intervention of politicians can only legitimate those fans' sense of grievance. We could be going into uncharted territory here. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
GeordieDazzler Posted November 27, 2023 Share Posted November 27, 2023 11 minutes ago, Cronky said: Sorry to go on a bit, but this is something I feel strongly about. From watching yesterday's scenes at Goodison, I'm concerned at how far these protests are going to go, if Everton fail to escape the relegation zone. We've seen their Directors forced to stay away from the ground due to plausible threats of violence, players accosted outside the ground, and fireworks let off at night outside a visiting team's hotel. There was also the Liverpool fans trying to intimidate a visiting team in the Champions League by organising a mob to surround the coach. Many Everton fans seem to think that violence or the threat of it is a legitimate tactic to use to their advantage against anyone. The intervention of politicians can only legitimate those fans' sense of grievance. We could be going into uncharted territory here. Gordon last minute winner in a few weeks time would bubble the pot over nicely Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
PauloGeordio Posted November 27, 2023 Share Posted November 27, 2023 2 minutes ago, GeordieDazzler said: Gordon last minute winner in a few weeks time would bubble the pot over nicely Some badge love too during the celebration! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charlies Posted November 27, 2023 Share Posted November 27, 2023 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hudson Posted November 27, 2023 Share Posted November 27, 2023 10 hours ago, Cronky said: Sorry to go on a bit, but this is something I feel strongly about. From watching yesterday's scenes at Goodison, I'm concerned at how far these protests are going to go, if Everton fail to escape the relegation zone. We've seen their Directors forced to stay away from the ground due to plausible threats of violence, players accosted outside the ground, and fireworks let off at night outside a visiting team's hotel. There was also the Liverpool fans trying to intimidate a visiting team in the Champions League by organising a mob to surround the coach. Many Everton fans seem to think that violence or the threat of it is a legitimate tactic to use to their advantage against Welcome to Merseyside, the Dark side of the city is like that day after day. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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