gbandit Posted October 13, 2023 Share Posted October 13, 2023 From the murmurings around this, it’s sounding relatively tame like. At least for now. Needs to be investigated though and if he’s done a Toney or Paqueta then a ban’s fair enough. Bit different if he’s just been betting on other sports though, if that’s an offence then that’s a bit absurd Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mazzy Posted October 13, 2023 Share Posted October 13, 2023 Even if he is proven to have placed bets and breached rules it certainly doesn't mean a lengthy ban. Toffolo at Forrest given a 5 months suspended ban for breaching 375 rules. Just seems to depend on what exactly the players in question were betting on. If its your own team (like Toney) he'd almost certainly get longer than 5 months. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pokerprince2004 Posted October 13, 2023 Share Posted October 13, 2023 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Optimistic Nut Posted October 13, 2023 Share Posted October 13, 2023 27 minutes ago, GeordieDazzler said: From the article posted earlier Doesn't seem like it's football betting issues then? Not Trippier/Toney sort of thing anyway. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yorkie Posted October 13, 2023 Share Posted October 13, 2023 1 hour ago, GeordieT said: Reported in the Italian press that as many as fifty players and officials are implicated. So this would appear to be the tip of the iceberg. Zalewski latest to be named. This has always been my instinctive thought whenever these gambling offence stories have landed; whoever it may be is just the latest to be rumbled. It'll be absolutely rife; hundreds and hundreds of footballers will be at it - whether it's due to ignorance about the rules, a lack of care, a lack of education, or outright stupidity... it'll be a widespread issue and the likes of Toney are just the 'unlucky' ones getting caught out. I'm not excusing Sandro if it turns out he's broken football rules and is therefore in receipt of a punishment which affects the club, but if we're talking Toney/Toffolo-like offences, I find it hard to feel any anger towards him. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
PauloGeordio Posted October 13, 2023 Share Posted October 13, 2023 Cumonnnnnnnn! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shays Given Tim Flowers Posted October 13, 2023 Share Posted October 13, 2023 Never did Michael Jordan any harm. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
timeEd32 Posted October 13, 2023 Share Posted October 13, 2023 5 minutes ago, Shays Given Tim Flowers said: Never did Michael Jordan any harm. Unless you buy into the retirement conspiracies... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tsunami Posted October 13, 2023 Share Posted October 13, 2023 Sandro Tonali Sandro Tonali. He loves roulette wheels. slots and all card games. Hates fuckin Bingo. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
80 Posted October 13, 2023 Share Posted October 13, 2023 46 minutes ago, Yorkie said: This has always been my instinctive thought whenever these gambling offence stories have landed; whoever it may be is just the latest to be rumbled. It'll be absolutely rife; hundreds and hundreds of footballers will be at it - whether it's due to ignorance about the rules, a lack of care, a lack of education, or outright stupidity... it'll be a widespread issue and the likes of Toney are just the 'unlucky' ones getting caught out. I'm not excusing Sandro if it turns out he's broken football rules and is therefore in receipt of a punishment which affects the club, but if we're talking Toney/Toffolo-like offences, I find it hard to feel any anger towards him. Thinking about it, it might be worth having some kind of amnesty for players who haven't yet been caught but, say, have done it when younger and since stopped, if they come forward and admit it. Just to clear the decks going forwards and stop the past hanging over people. Plausibly, blackmail could be used as leverage to corrupt players as things stand. 36 minutes ago, Tsunami said: Sandro Tonali Sandro Tonali. He loves roulette wheels. slots and all card games. Hates fuckin Bingo. It's an improvement, I back it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wilson Posted October 13, 2023 Share Posted October 13, 2023 3 hours ago, Shays Given Tim Flowers said: Parker Schnabel probably does bet tbf, he's minted. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
duo Posted October 13, 2023 Share Posted October 13, 2023 Do we even know what he is accused of? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteV Posted October 13, 2023 Share Posted October 13, 2023 Just now, duo said: Do we even know what he is accused of? Specifically, no. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
FloydianMag Posted October 13, 2023 Share Posted October 13, 2023 (edited) 6 minutes ago, SteV said: Specifically, no. It would be a pisser if he gets a ban for playing poker and Blackjack. How can that be an infringement of rules? Edited October 13, 2023 by FloydianMag Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteV Posted October 13, 2023 Share Posted October 13, 2023 Just now, FloydianMag said: It would be a pisser if he gets a ban from playing poker and Blackjack. How can that be an option infringement of rules? I think (happy to be corrected here) it’s an infringement of Italian law, rather than an infringement of any football related rules. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
duo Posted October 13, 2023 Share Posted October 13, 2023 Talksport said he is accused of playing bets on illegal platforms out side of Italy. What does that mean? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Optimistic Nut Posted October 13, 2023 Share Posted October 13, 2023 1 minute ago, duo said: Talksport said he is accused of playing bets on illegal platforms out side of Italy. What does that mean? Possibly used a VPN to gamble on sites outside of Italy which are otherwise unavailable there? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
duo Posted October 13, 2023 Share Posted October 13, 2023 Just now, Optimistic Nut said: Possibly used a VPN to gamble on sites outside of Italy which are otherwise unavailable there? They explained it as an illegal betting platform were criminals - in effect - can do money laundering but also a place where players who can not bet legally a place where they can go and bet. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keegans Export Posted October 13, 2023 Share Posted October 13, 2023 It seems that you have to have a licence to operate a bookies/casino etc in Italy so if he's been using a VPN to access a site without an Italian licence then he's broken their gambling laws. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
duo Posted October 13, 2023 Share Posted October 13, 2023 If true - not good. And if Milan knew? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orphanage Posted October 13, 2023 Share Posted October 13, 2023 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heron Posted October 13, 2023 Share Posted October 13, 2023 25 minutes ago, duo said: Do we even know what he is accused of? He bet Sunderland were shite. Needless to say, he won. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Abacus Posted October 13, 2023 Share Posted October 13, 2023 10 minutes ago, duo said: Talksport said he is accused of playing bets on illegal platforms out side of Italy. What does that mean? He wears big shoes on holiday Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
duo Posted October 13, 2023 Share Posted October 13, 2023 It seems they confiscated the phone of a Juve player accused of betting and found messages of other players inc Tonali. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheHoob Posted October 13, 2023 Share Posted October 13, 2023 If it's not match betting related I'm going to guess it's not ideal but not going to result in any kind of football ban. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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