Hanshithispantz Posted October 22, 2023 Share Posted October 22, 2023 (edited) To add, I think TheBrownBottle is going a bit OTT regarding betting on your own team, I'm not trying to claim there's absolutely no chance a game could ever be effected by a player doing it. Also Tonali should absolutely be banned, and probably for 12 month or more. Edited October 22, 2023 by Hanshithispantz Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Holloway Posted October 22, 2023 Share Posted October 22, 2023 Proper lump in the throat moment yesterday when he came on and the chanting started,just getting louder and louder as people joined in Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miggys First Goal Posted October 22, 2023 Share Posted October 22, 2023 Assuming Milan knew all about this and knew what was coming down the line, and sold him so they wouldn’t have to deal with it, I hope it has dawned on Sandro that his beloved club from birth were happy to throw him away to avoid all of this. And instead his new club have welcomed him with open arms and will support him through this. Hope we fuck Milan up in the CL and then fuck them in the courts, too. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt1892 Posted October 22, 2023 Share Posted October 22, 2023 If Milan knew then there would be serious repercussions from this in terms of what we will throw at it from a legal point of view. I can see someone else coming from there at a lower fee as some sort of settlement. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted October 22, 2023 Share Posted October 22, 2023 I think what we do or don’t do about Milan has to be secondary and everything should be done to insulate the player from that. He’s getting banned, most important thing is to start the process of rehabilitating him, supporting him and preparing the ground for when he can come back. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ikon Posted October 22, 2023 Share Posted October 22, 2023 (edited) Have a feeling that it’s gonna be a massive kick in the bollocks and a ban like 14-20 months or similar. Hope to god my gut feeling is wrong like. Edited October 22, 2023 by Ikon Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrRaspberryJam Posted October 22, 2023 Share Posted October 22, 2023 Speaking of betting. What’s happening with Paqueta’s allegations? Seems to have gone very quiet. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Myleftboot Posted October 22, 2023 Share Posted October 22, 2023 1 minute ago, MrRaspberryJam said: Speaking of betting. What’s happening with Paqueta’s allegations? Seems to have gone very quiet. Didn’t you know,everyone’s trying to disrupt ‘Oil United’. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BonesJones Posted October 22, 2023 Share Posted October 22, 2023 4 hours ago, Matt1892 said: I can see someone else coming from there at a lower fee as some sort of settlement. They've been linked to that Juan Miranda, so we can take Theo then! Doubt the club would have any interest in taking any of their players again, black listed lol! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Groundhog63 Posted October 22, 2023 Share Posted October 22, 2023 5 hours ago, Miggys First Goal said: Assuming Milan knew all about this and knew what was coming down the line, and sold him so they wouldn’t have to deal with it, I hope it has dawned on Sandro that his beloved club from birth were happy to throw him away to avoid all of this. And instead his new club have welcomed him with open arms and will support him through this. Hope we fuck Milan up in the CL and then fuck them in the courts, too. Good take that. I like it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pata Posted October 22, 2023 Share Posted October 22, 2023 (edited) 34 minutes ago, MrRaspberryJam said: Speaking of betting. What’s happening with Paqueta’s allegations? Seems to have gone very quiet. Italians just seem more efficient. Toney ban took a while and Paqueta’s case probably involves Brazilian authorities too so will take even more time. What Paqueta did is way worse than Tonali or Toney, think he’s looking at something like two years minimum ban if the allegations are true. Edited October 22, 2023 by Pata Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRon Posted October 22, 2023 Share Posted October 22, 2023 20 hours ago, Menace said: I'm still gutted about this tbh. He was really emotional when the crowd sung his name as well. Shame but I hope he comes back stronger. What's worse is that it will set him back another few months when he does come back, he needed this season to acclimatise to the pace of the game over here. Anyway, we have to put this behind us once his punishment is handed down. Hopefully it's only 12 months, I think we've been punished enough considering as a club we've done nothing wrong. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gawalls Posted October 22, 2023 Share Posted October 22, 2023 6 hours ago, Wullie said: Nah I completely disagree, it does critically affect the integrity of the game either way if a player has a stake in a result beyond what he's employed to do. What if the team have a player sent off after 5 minutes, the manager's instruction is to sit deep and hold out for a draw, but the player keeps charging forward needing the win because he's got a huge amount of money on it? Now that the bookies offer foul, shot and tackle markets you don't even need to take a booking, would be so easy to do for any player who wanted to. And players may well know if people on the other team are carrying injuries etc which is essentially a form of insider trading. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
aa5773 Posted October 22, 2023 Share Posted October 22, 2023 Well, it's a shame about this kid. Gambling is from the devil, and people should not come near it. You should ban gambling for the good of the people. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
aa5773 Posted October 22, 2023 Share Posted October 22, 2023 2 minutes ago, STM said: You can fuck off with ya Saudi shite and your God shite for that matter. Well, whatever. You racist. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
STM Posted October 22, 2023 Share Posted October 22, 2023 1 minute ago, aa5773 said: Well, whatever. You racist. No issue with Saudis as a people, not their fault where they were born. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jaqen Posted October 22, 2023 Share Posted October 22, 2023 11 minutes ago, Gawalls said: And players may well know if people on the other team are carrying injuries etc which is essentially a form of insider trading. There's a big difference between insider knowledge (which is not illegal at all) and insider trading to be fair. The bookies use insider information all the time to adjust odds on markets. The Trippier ban was kind of ridiculous as that was based on 'insider information'. Essentially banned for telling his mates who he was signing for. Yet Sky Sports are allowed to just make up transfer stories and offer odds on them though skybet at the same time. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gawalls Posted October 22, 2023 Share Posted October 22, 2023 1 minute ago, Jaqen said: There's a big difference between insider knowledge (which is not illegal at all) and insider trading to be fair. The bookies use insider information all the time to adjust odds on markets. The Trippier ban was kind of ridiculous as that was based on 'insider information'. Essentially banned for telling his mates who he was signing for. Yet Sky Sports are allowed to just make up transfer stories and offer odds on them though skybet at the same time. Either way he knew it was illegal when he did it, as I said a while ago that I said Toney deserves a ban so I’m not going to be a hypocrite just because he plays for us. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mazzy Posted October 22, 2023 Share Posted October 22, 2023 Seems like we'll be finding out tomorrow then. 9 months or less and I think that's fair, anything more would seem like overkill. This is all based on the assumption that what he's done isn't tantamount to match fixing. If it is, then ofcourse I'd expect it to be closer to 18 months if not more. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronson333 Posted October 22, 2023 Share Posted October 22, 2023 59 minutes ago, STM said: You can fuck off with ya Saudi shite and your God shite for that matter. Can we ban this twat? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mikky Posted October 22, 2023 Share Posted October 22, 2023 1 hour ago, STM said: You can fuck off with ya Saudi shite and your God shite for that matter. As a Muslim I find that totally offensive and not something I want to see on this board Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Theregulars Posted October 22, 2023 Share Posted October 22, 2023 6 hours ago, Matt1892 said: If Milan knew then there would be serious repercussions from this in terms of what we will throw at it from a legal point of view. I can see someone else coming from there at a lower fee as some sort of settlement. How do you prove it? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RUHRLYASLEEVESUP Posted October 22, 2023 Share Posted October 22, 2023 12 minutes ago, Mikky said: As a Muslim I find that totally offensive and not something I want to see on this board Eh, whose God was he referring to like ? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shearergol Posted October 22, 2023 Share Posted October 22, 2023 This thread man Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt1892 Posted October 22, 2023 Share Posted October 22, 2023 11 minutes ago, Theregulars said: How do you prove it? For example if he has a document that says he has been diagnosed with a gambling addiction and he has shared that with Milan before they decided to sell him. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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