wormy Posted October 16, 2023 Share Posted October 16, 2023 57 minutes ago, Disco said: Be mad to see one of players in The Hague like. Look at that forehead. You can see how this investigation has taken it's toll on poor Sandro. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
duo Posted October 16, 2023 Share Posted October 16, 2023 16 minutes ago, Jesse Pinkman said: Surely they can just look at this betting account? Clearly the investigation will but the press don't have a clue atm. Be interesting to see if he plays at the weekend. If he doesn't for me that's a worry it's serious. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
GideonShandy Posted October 16, 2023 Share Posted October 16, 2023 2 hours ago, Alberto2005 said: What a mess, I think I'd rather us just terminate his deal if he's going to miss 18 months+. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
toontownman Posted October 16, 2023 Share Posted October 16, 2023 Hearing the whole Wetherspoons thing was a bet now.. my whole life seems like a lie! You know it will be our luck while it took almost all season for the FA to let Toney play and have half his ban in pre-season, Tonali's will happen this week without delay and be massive! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
et tu brute Posted October 16, 2023 Share Posted October 16, 2023 If he does get a ban will it apply under FIFA as well as UEFA? If not is there the option of loaning/selling him to Saudi? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elbel1 Posted October 16, 2023 Share Posted October 16, 2023 On 15/10/2023 at 13:35, Erikse said: What if he changes his name and do surgeries to become unreocgnizeable and look much younger. We can shove him into the academy, falsify his documents so that he's now 17, and then pick him up to the first team after a couple of months. Any name suggestions? Obafemi Tonali or Sandro Martins You get the idea Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
midds Posted October 16, 2023 Share Posted October 16, 2023 Just going to wait and see how this pans out before I jump in and have a pop at the lad. There's always a bit of context involved and if there's charges to answer and he's made some daft decisions then he'll have to accept it and take it on the chin, we all make mistakes and there's always the distinct possibility he's got an addiction which he'll need help and support for. He's our player now and we need to do the best for him and the club and that means waiting for actual facts and details to come out. I'm dismissing everything that comes out of the Italian press until it's confirmed. It looked really bleak for Paqueta for a week or so until it seemed to vanish and be forgotten about. Not saying this will go the same way but let's just see first. I can accept a few tongue in cheek comments but some of the stuff I've seen written about him since this broke has been shocking and way ott Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
toontownman Posted October 16, 2023 Share Posted October 16, 2023 12 minutes ago, et tu brute said: If he does get a ban will it apply under FIFA as well as UEFA? If not is there the option of loaning/selling him to Saudi? Think someone mentioned earlier in the thread that it would be a world wide ban. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
astraguy Posted October 16, 2023 Share Posted October 16, 2023 6 minutes ago, midds said: Just going to wait and see how this pans out before I jump in and have a pop at the lad. There's always a bit of context involved and if there's charges to answer and he's made some daft decisions then he'll have to accept it and take it on the chin, we all make mistakes and there's always the distinct possibility he's got an addiction which he'll need help and support for. He's our player now and we need to do the best for him and the club and that means waiting for actual facts and details to come out. I'm dismissing everything that comes out of the Italian press until it's confirmed. It looked really bleak for Paqueta for a week or so until it seemed to vanish and be forgotten about. Not saying this will go the same way but let's just see first. I can accept a few tongue in cheek comments but some of the stuff I've seen written about him since this broke has been shocking and way ott totally forgot about Paqueta,still fucking shit footballers have to promote betting but can't in anyway even not football Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gbandit Posted October 16, 2023 Share Posted October 16, 2023 This Fagioli lad needs a slap Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SUPERTOON Posted October 16, 2023 Share Posted October 16, 2023 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RodneyCisse Posted October 16, 2023 Share Posted October 16, 2023 2 minutes ago, SUPERTOON said: https://x.com/DeadlineDayLive/status/1713989342920606103?s=20 So it’s more than the whole squad? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
timeEd32 Posted October 16, 2023 Share Posted October 16, 2023 This may turn out like the steroid scandal in baseball where the first names that came out were a big deal and then it became easier to speculate on who didn't take steroids. By the time we hear 30-40 names everyone will be bored of this and it will be slaps on the wrist all around (if it was only casino games). Betting on Italian football and potentially Milan would be a whole different thing. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gbandit Posted October 16, 2023 Share Posted October 16, 2023 The fuck is going on in Italy? I’m sure it’s true of many places too but how is it so institutionalised? Surely there must be legal betting options they could have gone for which would have given them the same dopamine hit? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
relámpago blanco Posted October 16, 2023 Share Posted October 16, 2023 Apparently, he will be sentenced to death by being hung drawn and quartered. The Press wanted it to happen in Milan but due to Sunderland fans not being able to travel to Milan it's scheduled to be done at Ponteland Airport. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
relámpago blanco Posted October 16, 2023 Share Posted October 16, 2023 5 minutes ago, gbandit said: The fuck is going on in Italy? I’m sure it’s true of many places too but how is it so institutionalised? Surely there must be legal betting options they could have gone for which would have given them the same dopamine hit? Sound like the time Juve were dropped from Serie A and stripped of titles for match fixing. Whole league was in on it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gallowgate Toon Posted October 16, 2023 Share Posted October 16, 2023 Most of the lads in our squad will have probably tried to shut down their partner's/family members' accounts since this news broke rather than some type of emotional reaction Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SUPERTOON Posted October 16, 2023 Share Posted October 16, 2023 This is more encouraging Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ketsbaia Posted October 16, 2023 Share Posted October 16, 2023 (edited) https://www.getfootballnewsitaly.com/2023/serie-a-betting-no-sporting-fraud-expected-for-nicolo-zaniolo-and-sandro-tonali/ No evidence of Nicolo Zaniolo and Sandro Tonali being involved in sporting fraud has been found so far in the betting case. Tonali and Zaniolo were accused of being involved in the sporting fraud case after their names popped up in the Nicolo Fagioli case, with the midfielder’s phone having been investigated and scanned. The duo had admitted that they had indeed been involved in poker and blackjack, but didn’t know that the facilities were illegal. Despite that, investigations were ongoing. But Sky Italia report that no evidence of sporting fraud has been found and the expectation is that this will remain the case. Having said that, chats will be analysed and this will be followed by the Prosecutor and the two players and it could take place in the next few days. So far, it does seem as if the two players only involved themselves in poker and blackjack but investigations will remain ongoing. Not that repeatedly posting Italian media is a good idea, but whatever Edited October 16, 2023 by Ketsbaia Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
CPL Posted October 16, 2023 Share Posted October 16, 2023 Rumours had it is that Sandro has requested for a trail by combat. KSI is his first choice. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Optimistic Nut Posted October 16, 2023 Share Posted October 16, 2023 6 minutes ago, Ketsbaia said: https://www.getfootballnewsitaly.com/2023/serie-a-betting-no-sporting-fraud-expected-for-nicolo-zaniolo-and-sandro-tonali/ No evidence of Nicolo Zaniolo and Sandro Tonali being involved in sporting fraud has been found so far in the betting case. Tonali and Zaniolo were accused of being involved in the sporting fraud case after their names popped up in the Nicolo Fagioli case, with the midfielder’s phone having been investigated and scanned. The duo had admitted that they had indeed been involved in poker and blackjack, but didn’t know that the facilities were illegal. Despite that, investigations were ongoing. But Sky Italia report that no evidence of sporting fraud has been found and the expectation is that this will remain the case. Having said that, chats will be analysed and this will be followed by the Prosecutor and the two players and it could take place in the next few days. So far, it does seem as if the two players only involved themselves in poker and blackjack but investigations will remain ongoing. Not that repeatedly posting Italian media is a good idea, but whatever Really hope this is the case man, slap on the wrist from the Italian authorities for breaking some sort of daft gambling laws over there, and move on. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gbandit Posted October 16, 2023 Share Posted October 16, 2023 This seems like a crazy blow-up if it is just poker and blackjack. Surely, for it to be getting this much of an investigation there must be some fairly major signs that some players have done some seriously dodgy stuff. Whole thing is just really odd until we get more information Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Prophet Posted October 16, 2023 Share Posted October 16, 2023 As previously discussed with Toney and Paqueta, these lads are a bit daft if it's proven they've bet on football. What leaves a sour taste is they're effectively laying in a bed made by the industry. Football and betting are now synonymous with each other. There's countless adverts, sponsorships and partnerships at any given club or advertised at any given game. So while anyone involved needs to take responsibility and accept the punishment coming their way, football needs to take a look at itself and it's relationship with the betting industry, whether it's for your average problem gambler or an addicted footballer. Of course in a game who's authorities thirst for cash knows no bounds that won't happen. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
lxsln Posted October 16, 2023 Share Posted October 16, 2023 So what are the odds that they will cooperate and get a suspension like Toney's. Can't play games until next season but can start training this summer? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Posted October 16, 2023 Share Posted October 16, 2023 As far as I’m aware this has nothing to do with the Mark Toney rumours. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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