SUPERTOON Posted October 24, 2023 Share Posted October 24, 2023 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aiston Posted October 24, 2023 Share Posted October 24, 2023 All the long bans do is make others not want to come out about their addiction. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dokko Posted October 24, 2023 Share Posted October 24, 2023 2 minutes ago, SUPERTOON said: https://twitter.com/CraigHope_DM/status/1716757881351979430?s=20 Love.how he feels the need to add an extra couple of months. Needs to he 20% more negative than the truth. Should.be a good measure for anything he has to say from now on. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dokko Posted October 24, 2023 Share Posted October 24, 2023 2 minutes ago, Aiston said: All the long bans do is make others not want to come out about their addiction. They need to state anyone in the game gambling and is an issue please put their hand up now and any sentencing will be extremely lean but persons fully supported. They need to get it out in the open. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
PauloGeordio Posted October 24, 2023 Share Posted October 24, 2023 Just now, Dokko said: They need to state anyone in the game gambling and is an issue please put their hand up now and any sentencing will be extremely lean but persons fully supported. They need to get it out in the open. Yeah if you step forward before being caught then support and leniency 100% to allow others a safe structured route to help and support. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
GeordieDazzler Posted October 24, 2023 Share Posted October 24, 2023 So from being reported a week ago as much worse than Tonali it’s seems like Zaniolo is going to probably get a much lighter punishment if at all https://football-italia.net/aston-villas-zaniolo-not-a-priority-for-investigators-in-betting-scandal/ Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris_R Posted October 24, 2023 Share Posted October 24, 2023 1 hour ago, Yorkie said: For him to be available from August feels like a reasonable result when the maximum was up to three years. I still think it's overboard though, given the victimless nature of the offence. Singling you out a bit unfairly perhaps, but I find this and many other takes on the potential punishment to be really odd. Loads of people having an opinion on what should happen, what's reasonable etc when we know absolutely NOTHING about what he's actually done. I've chosen your post out of loads because I found the "victimless" bit really odd, as if he's been betting on his own team to lose (again, we have absolutely no idea what he's done) it's far from victimless as he can influence those matches and that affects the integrity of the sport and directly affects other people's winnings if he's underperformed to cause a loss or whatever. We have absolutely no idea what he's done yet, so any claims of punishments being too harsh, about right, victimless, whatever, is all a load of bollocks at this stage. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The College Dropout Posted October 24, 2023 Share Posted October 24, 2023 Tonali deserves harsher punishment if he's gambled on games involving his club and the others haven't. From that link, Zaniolo hasn't even gambled on football. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
GeordieDazzler Posted October 24, 2023 Share Posted October 24, 2023 14 minutes ago, The College Dropout said: Tonali deserves harsher punishment if he's gambled on games involving his club and the others haven't. From that link, Zaniolo hasn't even gambled on football. It feels like the initial reporting mixed the two players up Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Super Duper Branko Strupar Posted October 24, 2023 Share Posted October 24, 2023 Tonali built the app and distributed it via dark web forums. Charged a subscription for it which he received in dogecoin. Cant let him round our young players. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted October 24, 2023 Share Posted October 24, 2023 10 minutes ago, Super Duper Branko Strupar said: Tonali built the app and distributed it via dark web forums. Charged a subscription for it which he received in dogecoin. Cant let him round our young players. Confirmed?? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jackyboy Posted October 24, 2023 Share Posted October 24, 2023 I believe that he only gambled on AC Milan games when he wasn't playing or on the bench and never bet on them to lose. If that's true of course. It took them ages to put Tooneys case together so if they do this one quickly then it must have been going on for some while and him, his old club and owners were aware of the problems when he was sold to us Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hanshithispantz Posted October 24, 2023 Share Posted October 24, 2023 (edited) 1 hour ago, Chris_R said: Singling you out a bit unfairly perhaps, but I find this and many other takes on the potential punishment to be really odd. Loads of people having an opinion on what should happen, what's reasonable etc when we know absolutely NOTHING about what he's actually done. I've chosen your post out of loads because I found the "victimless" bit really odd, as if he's been betting on his own team to lose (again, we have absolutely no idea what he's done) it's far from victimless as he can influence those matches and that affects the integrity of the sport and directly affects other people's winnings if he's underperformed to cause a loss or whatever. We have absolutely no idea what he's done yet, so any claims of punishments being too harsh, about right, victimless, whatever, is all a load of bollocks at this stage. Wouldn't he be getting done for match fixing if he was betting on Milan to lose? Edit: you are right we don't know the details like, but I would hope players caught throwing games would be treat differently to players betting on football (whether it be their own team or not). Edited October 24, 2023 by Hanshithispantz Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
wormy Posted October 24, 2023 Share Posted October 24, 2023 23 minutes ago, Super Duper Branko Strupar said: Tonali built the app and distributed it via dark web forums. Charged a subscription for it which he received in dogecoin. Cant let him round our young players. Just evidence of his creativity tbh. Can't wait for him to put it to good use when he returns to the pitch. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paully Posted October 24, 2023 Share Posted October 24, 2023 Milan definitely knew and I hope we can prove it Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Magpie Posted October 24, 2023 Share Posted October 24, 2023 Sky Sports article Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
duo Posted October 24, 2023 Share Posted October 24, 2023 I just hope he's able to train. Otherwise even when his ban is lifted it'll be weeks if not months later before he becomes match fit. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
PauloGeordio Posted October 24, 2023 Share Posted October 24, 2023 2 minutes ago, duo said: I just hope he's able to train. Otherwise even when his ban is lifted it'll be weeks if not months later before he becomes match fit. One way or another he’ll train, with or without the team! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sempuki Posted October 24, 2023 Share Posted October 24, 2023 10 months will be a result of sorts. No doubt Milan knew about it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ben Posted October 24, 2023 Share Posted October 24, 2023 I can't imagine wor Amanda will be to happy paying him his full wage, will they just send him back to Italy until the summer and then he's back for pre season or make him stay over here ? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yorkie Posted October 24, 2023 Share Posted October 24, 2023 1 hour ago, Chris_R said: Singling you out a bit unfairly perhaps, but I find this and many other takes on the potential punishment to be really odd. Loads of people having an opinion on what should happen, what's reasonable etc when we know absolutely NOTHING about what he's actually done. I've chosen your post out of loads because I found the "victimless" bit really odd, as if he's been betting on his own team to lose (again, we have absolutely no idea what he's done) it's far from victimless as he can influence those matches and that affects the integrity of the sport and directly affects other people's winnings if he's underperformed to cause a loss or whatever. We have absolutely no idea what he's done yet, so any claims of punishments being too harsh, about right, victimless, whatever, is all a load of bollocks at this stage. Fair enough re us not knowing the facts, the temptation to jump to conclusions is just too great. My post was based on the assumption that he's made bets like you or I would, rather affect the integrity of the sport/deliberately under-performed/whatever. I went on to say that there's absolutely no indication of anything truly malevolent having happened; I think we'd have known about it by now given what else has emerged from the case. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tsunami Posted October 24, 2023 Share Posted October 24, 2023 His contract will decide what we can and can’t do about his wages. He should be given a break and then told to come back, train if he can and learn English. I’d not bother going after Milan; they owe us though. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shadow Puppets Posted October 24, 2023 Share Posted October 24, 2023 2 minutes ago, Tsunami said: His contract will decide what we can and can’t do about his wages. He should be given a break and then told to come back, train if he can and learn English. I’d not bother going after Milan; they owe us though. Go after them on the pitch! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
KDT Posted October 24, 2023 Share Posted October 24, 2023 His tremendous lass hasn't posted much on the socials since the news broke, worrying. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest reefatoon Posted October 24, 2023 Share Posted October 24, 2023 1 hour ago, Matt1892 said: My concern is that this won’t be the end of it, as I am presuming that if he is a gambling addict that he didn’t stop betting on football once he signed for us, meaning the FA could still get involved with a separate ban for his time here. You would think that this would run concurrently but they took an age with Toney’s case that it might not. Your concern is worse case scenarios you are making up in your head. No need to worry. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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