gdm Posted July 31, 2023 Share Posted July 31, 2023 31 minutes ago, Decky said: How is it that we got bought by the Saudis and the team we're competing with is Aston fucking Villa? A lot of people seem to think they'll finish above us too. Who cares what people think. We are a champions league club are they aren’t. We are doing just fine. More than fine and well ahead of schedule. Only a season half a go we were rock bottom etc etc Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keegans Export Posted July 31, 2023 Share Posted July 31, 2023 43 minutes ago, relámpago blanco said: Because we are close to them in revenue. We aren't with Man City, Man United etc so we can't spend that due to ffp Plus Villa sold Grealish for £100m which strengthens their FFP position (up to this season anyway) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteV Posted July 31, 2023 Share Posted July 31, 2023 45 minutes ago, Decky said: How is it that we got bought by the Saudis and the team we're competing with is Aston fucking Villa? A lot of people seem to think they'll finish above us too. It’s their Academy production that’s helping them out tremendously. Selling Grealish and the kid whose name I’m not gonna try and spell, for fortunes, is massive for FFP, whilst also bringing through another PL quality player in Ramsey. If you look back at almost every Dan Ashworth interview since he joined, he mentions how critically important it is to get the academy up to standard and producing for us. We might actually have got lucky in getting a couple through already in Anderson and Miley (?) but we need it to become a regular occurrence. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
STM Posted July 31, 2023 Share Posted July 31, 2023 I'm convinced the reason we are signing the likes of Minteh and Kuol is in order to flip them for a profit. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zero Posted July 31, 2023 Share Posted July 31, 2023 Even if it’s just 10m or 15m it would help a huge lot under current FFP. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Myleftboot Posted July 31, 2023 Share Posted July 31, 2023 8 minutes ago, STM said: I'm convinced the reason we are signing the likes of Minteh and Kuol is in order to flip them for a profit. Agree with this. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRC Posted July 31, 2023 Share Posted July 31, 2023 20 minutes ago, Keegans Export said: Plus Villa sold Grealish for £100m which strengthens their FFP position (up to this season anyway) Love to see a break down of this, 1 massive sale keeps gives them seemingly unlimited funds? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shak Posted July 31, 2023 Share Posted July 31, 2023 46 minutes ago, nufc123 said: And Barnes for that matter. Mainly left isnt he Chiesa. Had a look at this before and if transfermrkt is to be believed he's played more and been more productive when played on the right. https://www.transfermarkt.co.uk/federico-chiesa/leistungsdaten/spieler/341092/plus/0?saison=ges Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRon Posted July 31, 2023 Share Posted July 31, 2023 1 hour ago, Decky said: Oh no doubt they are very well run. I just never would have predicted Villa being the team going toe to toe with us at the start. I would probably have seen it being Leicester, a team that was in and around the top 7/8 in recent years. Mental to think that they're not in the top flight anymore. They didn't look so well run a year ago when Stevie G was running them down the pan. Amazing the difference just appointing a decent manager can do. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
PauloGeordio Posted July 31, 2023 Share Posted July 31, 2023 (edited) 2 minutes ago, TRon said: They didn't look so well run a year ago when Stevie G was running them down the pan. Amazing the difference just appointing a decent manager can do. Who’d have thunk it! Edited July 31, 2023 by PauloGeordio Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRon Posted July 31, 2023 Share Posted July 31, 2023 12 minutes ago, STM said: I'm convinced the reason we are signing the likes of Minteh and Kuol is in order to flip them for a profit. Been thinking that for a while now as well. It's not what we are used to, but it's how Ashworth operated at Brighton. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Decky Posted July 31, 2023 Share Posted July 31, 2023 1 minute ago, TRon said: They didn't look so well run a year ago when Stevie G was running them down the pan. Amazing the difference just appointing a decent manager can do. In fairness they took a punt on Gerrard when it looked like he might be a half decent manager and it just didn't work out. Were we not looking at him at the time too? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gaztoon Posted July 31, 2023 Share Posted July 31, 2023 14 minutes ago, STM said: I'm convinced the reason we are signing the likes of Minteh and Kuol is in order to flip them for a profit. Good, pure profit for FFP Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stottie Posted July 31, 2023 Share Posted July 31, 2023 Stevie G and Brendan Rodgers, not exactly adverts for transferable managerial expertise in SPL. Makes you wonder what Tottenham are doing.... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
NWMag Posted July 31, 2023 Share Posted July 31, 2023 7 minutes ago, TRC said: Love to see a break down of this, 1 massive sale keeps gives them seemingly unlimited funds? Pretty much, grealish cost them zero as he came from their academy. They sold him for 100 million. That’s an extra 100 million allowed in the 3 year ffp period, and when you factor in outgoings are amortised, they could effectively sign 3 £50 million players on 5 year deals, and they grealish money would pretty much cover the fee and wages for the first :l3 years. Then factor in you can have another £105 million losses on top, they could do it twice Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ben Posted July 31, 2023 Share Posted July 31, 2023 I think we would all like a few more signings to cope with the extra games this season, but i think I'd be a lot more pissed off if I was an Everton, Spurs, West Ham or Sheff Utd fan. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRon Posted July 31, 2023 Share Posted July 31, 2023 10 minutes ago, Decky said: In fairness they took a punt on Gerrard when it looked like he might be a half decent manager and it just didn't work out. Were we not looking at him at the time too? I hope not. One of the biggest endorsements of our running of the club under this regime is we targeted both Emery and Howe, both have turned out to be brilliant choices. If we did approach Gerrard, hopefully one interview with the dimwit will have made us look elsewhere. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JonBez comesock Posted July 31, 2023 Share Posted July 31, 2023 28 minutes ago, STM said: I'm convinced the reason we are signing the likes of Minteh and Kuol is in order to flip them for a profit. It’s a a no brainier if they excel on loan - you try them in the first team in the cup competitions If they do well but not up to (our) first team standard you look to sell on with a bit of profit. if they kick on , you’ve bought a bargain at a low price that saves us big dollar on the transfer market either or Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LV Posted July 31, 2023 Share Posted July 31, 2023 1 hour ago, STM said: I'm convinced the reason we are signing the likes of Minteh and Kuol is in order to flip them for a profit. Yeah I agree. I’m sure some of these buys will make it to the first team but I think the majority of them will be sold on Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Super Duper Branko Strupar Posted July 31, 2023 Share Posted July 31, 2023 1 hour ago, Shak said: Had a look at this before and if transfermrkt is to be believed he's played more and been more productive when played on the right. https://www.transfermarkt.co.uk/federico-chiesa/leistungsdaten/spieler/341092/plus/0?saison=ges Those goals from the right... I can just imagine me calling up a talk show in 15 years time. "The first point Id like to make is about Federico, he played for Newcastle United, quite a few years ago..." Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Weezertron Posted July 31, 2023 Share Posted July 31, 2023 I hope we at least hope that the youth we buy have a chance to make the first team, should things go right. Can't say I'd love doing it the way Chelsea do it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
STM Posted July 31, 2023 Share Posted July 31, 2023 From a logical point of view, how well would Minteh have to do at Feyernood for us to consider playing him in our first team next year? He'd have to absolutely tear the Dutch league apart, and even then it wouldn't be a guarantee. On the other hand, if he can do well enough to grab the attention of a few scouts across Europe's... shall we say, more average sides... we might well get a half decent fee for him 9? 12? 15m? It's massive for us, if we can start getting the conveyer belt moving. It's the same reason why we are signing up all the best domestic youngsters, if they don't make it with us, you can get a champo club to take them and slap a 25% sell on into the deal. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
andycap Posted July 31, 2023 Share Posted July 31, 2023 Villa flogged that young centre mid to Chelsea aswell for about 30 million. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
andycap Posted July 31, 2023 Share Posted July 31, 2023 Chukuewemeka or something like that ? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
STM Posted July 31, 2023 Share Posted July 31, 2023 Just now, andycap said: Chukuewemeka or something like that ? Aye thats 130m for Grealish and him. No wonder that Villa are hoying the cash around. Their FFP balance is probably healthy as fuck for a few years. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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