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When talking about positions, the usual caveats apply, there's always a chance that one of our long time targets in another position becomes available, in which case we might move because we have to.

 

Yes I'd be astonished if we don't sign a RW/CB but it may well be that we sign a quality CM first and then have to wait until we've shifted Willock/Longstaff before getting a CB, lets say. 

 

If the CM was someone in Tonalis category, it would be worth it.

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2 minutes ago, STM said:

When talking about positions, the usual caveats apply, there's always a chance that one of our long time targets in another position becomes available, in which case we might move because we have to.

 

Yes I'd be astonished if we don't sign a RW/CB but it may well be that we sign a quality CM first and then have to wait until we've shifted Willock/Longstaff before getting a CB, lets say. 

 

If the CM was someone in Tonalis category, it would be worth it.

A CM that has the ability to break down teams that park the bus is something I drool after.

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47 minutes ago, Ikon said:

Mbeumo would be an exciting signing. If we want him we better move fast. Usually we are quite slow. 

If we're in for him, we'll have been in for him for a while. Discussions will likely have taken place, we'll have asked them to keep us posted on developments should anyone come in for him while we're exploring other options. I reckon we'll know what the deal needs to look like, it's just a case of whether we value him at the price we've been told and if he wants to come.

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2 minutes ago, Guybrush said:

Has there been any indication that we are actually in for Mbuemo? Or is it just that it makes so much sense this rumour has grown legs?

I'm sure hope and edwards said he's our number 1 RW target 

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As much as loads of posters have been desperate to push the narrative that Staveley got us into the shit, despite not really accepting that that “shit” has got us champions league twice and a cup and if we hadn’t spent so big there’s no chance we would have got those and people would have been complaining instead that we “didn’t push enough” in the market and “we’ve been left behind when we should have gone all out”, Staveley backed Howe massively on transfers. I wonder who’s his closest backer on transfers these days 

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2 minutes ago, duo said:

I would be surprised - RW is our priority 

 

I think hes referring to the PSR deadline, where we might be able to go shopping for a half price bargain, rather than going after a priority position.

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23 minutes ago, Guybrush said:

Has there been any indication that we are actually in for Mbuemo? Or is it just that it makes so much sense this rumour has grown legs?

Hmm.

-Both the players and manager of Brentford have talked about the likehood of him leaving this summer.

-Fits in perfectly in our squad.

-Not alot of other teams in the PL that looks like likely suitors. He is both intelligent and down to earth, so that leaves Man Utd out.

-Newcastle(along with Everton) are his favorite stadiums to go to.

 

 

 

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If the club want to spend the majority of our budget on Mbeumo, then I’m all in. No further debate.

 

Personally, I think it’s a bad move. I just don’t trust him in a possession dominant team, as for me based on my eye test he isn’t that accomplished. He is more than handy in transition, and has overshot his xG for a while now. (Let’s not forget Darwin Nunez did similar pre Liverpool). He’s just another Harvey Barnes who has elite characteristics but not a complete game, who will have some amazing moments, but frustrate us too. There is clearly a love in with him amongst our fan base, so apologies to anyone who disagrees, it’s not personal, and debate is what makes the beautiful game so much fun. At £40m or so, it’s probably worth it for us, or if we sell a Gordon and get Mbeumo with a few £m to spare then I can also see some logic. The risk of a drop off, the ACON, and him being a double down on high press high intensity, just doesn’t do it for me. I firmly believe there are much more suitable players out there for significantly less.

 

The main issue is we need to completely overhaul the squad, raising the floor and the ceiling (in certain positions) at the same time. It’s close to impossible to do what we need to do without more impeccable transfer business. What Eddie has done over nearly 4 seasons is a miracle. I have every faith he will continue to perform minor miracles and just hope he has enough of a squad to handle the assault on 4 competitions. To be a fly on the wall during our transfer meetings…

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1 minute ago, Pablo said:

If the club want to spend the majority of our budget on Mbeumo, then I’m all in. No further debate.

 

Personally, I think it’s a bad move. I just don’t trust him in a possession dominant team, as for me based on my eye test he isn’t that accomplished. He is more than handy in transition, and has overshot his xG for a while now. (Let’s not forget Darwin Nunez did similar pre Liverpool). He’s just another Harvey Barnes who has elite characteristics but not a complete game, who will have some amazing moments, but frustrate us too. There is clearly a love in with him amongst our fan base, so apologies to anyone who disagrees, it’s not personal, and debate is what makes the beautiful game so much fun. At £40m or so, it’s probably worth it for us, or if we sell a Gordon and get Mbeumo with a few £m to spare then I can also see some logic. The risk of a drop off, the ACON, and him being a double down on high press high intensity, just doesn’t do it for me. I firmly believe there are much more suitable players out there for significantly less.

 

The main issue is we need to completely overhaul the squad, raising the floor and the ceiling (in certain positions) at the same time. It’s close to impossible to do what we need to do without more impeccable transfer business. What Eddie has done over nearly 4 seasons is a miracle. I have every faith he will continue to perform minor miracles and just hope he has enough of a squad to handle the assault on 4 competitions. To be a fly on the wall during our transfer meetings…

I agree with some of your observations. Although I'll be excited if he signs.

 

Who would be on your list of RW targets? I'm a big Gittens fan personally but I think he's better on the left.

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Whilst I'd like us to sign more technical players, they must be able to do what Howe requires physically, particularly relating to our press.

 

Switching high pressing players for merely technical players would 100% ruin an Eddie Howe side.

 

It would be like asking Pep to have mainly physical players.

 

That's why Tonali was the golden goose. We found someone physically and technically capable of both.

 

 

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28 minutes ago, Pablo said:

If the club want to spend the majority of our budget on Mbeumo, then I’m all in. No further debate.

 

Personally, I think it’s a bad move. I just don’t trust him in a possession dominant team, as for me based on my eye test he isn’t that accomplished. He is more than handy in transition, and has overshot his xG for a while now. (Let’s not forget Darwin Nunez did similar pre Liverpool). He’s just another Harvey Barnes who has elite characteristics but not a complete game, who will have some amazing moments, but frustrate us too. There is clearly a love in with him amongst our fan base, so apologies to anyone who disagrees, it’s not personal, and debate is what makes the beautiful game so much fun. At £40m or so, it’s probably worth it for us, or if we sell a Gordon and get Mbeumo with a few £m to spare then I can also see some logic. The risk of a drop off, the ACON, and him being a double down on high press high intensity, just doesn’t do it for me. I firmly believe there are much more suitable players out there for significantly less.

 

The main issue is we need to completely overhaul the squad, raising the floor and the ceiling (in certain positions) at the same time. It’s close to impossible to do what we need to do without more impeccable transfer business. What Eddie has done over nearly 4 seasons is a miracle. I have every faith he will continue to perform minor miracles and just hope he has enough of a squad to handle the assault on 4 competitions. To be a fly on the wall during our transfer meetings…

 

Well said, ultimately 2 things can be true at the same time 

 

- Mbeumo would be a fantastic signing, further enhancing our current style of play 

 

- We could do with someone with a different profile on the RW (the next Olise would be my ideal type of signing) 

 

 

 

 

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25 minutes ago, rebelrouser said:

Eddie said he wanted to move quickly so the next week should be interesting.  I hope we don't have another extended negotiation like Guehi. Set your top and then move on. 

I don’t think we will sign anyone until after the club World Cup. Complete waste of time splitting the window up. 

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It’s split for the clubs in the club World Cup to get some players in before it starts. Which we are not so of course we might not do any business in it. We still might get some deals done for players to join when it re opens though. 

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6 hours ago, gbandit said:

Get @Gottlob in here if there’s suggestions we should try re-sign Arma

 

Think I've got it cracked. After the past season, Gordon isn't worth the £70 million that was being touted last summer, but maybe we could still do a deal with Liverpool even if their budget is being stretched. We sell them Gordon for £40 million plus Harvey Elliott, spend that £40 million on Jacob Ramsey before FFP day with Villa desperate to make a deal, then offload Longstaff and Willock for something in the region of £30 million combined.

 

Even if we only had £100 million to spend at the start of the window, we are now up to £130 million with two decent additions. That's enough for Mbeumo, Guehi or whoever else we might be interested in at centre back, and of course for Adam Armstrong, who becomes a distant but hardworking and homegrown backup player for up front and the flanks. With another sale or two - Targett maybe - plus some squeezing of the figures, we could also afford a moderately priced goalkeeper. And I think we'd be stronger without having used too much imagination and without breaking the bank.

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