oldtype Posted 13 hours ago Share Posted 13 hours ago 1 minute ago, TRC said: Honestly we are no threat to these teams and they know it. Villa are a much bigger thread and they sign tonne of players. We just aren’t very good at recruitment Villa don't really go after players that the top six would want, and to be fair maybe that is the optimal strategy for a club in our position. (They also have a much better youth pipeline than we do). Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
r0cafella Posted 12 hours ago Share Posted 12 hours ago 14 minutes ago, TRC said: Honestly we are no threat to these teams and they know it. Villa are a much bigger thread and they sign tonne of players. We just aren’t very good at recruitment We really need to stop with the victim mentality like, we will drive ourselves absolutely mad. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRC Posted 12 hours ago Share Posted 12 hours ago 17 minutes ago, oldtype said: Villa don't really go after players that the top six would want, and to be fair maybe that is the optimal strategy for a club in our position. (They also have a much better youth pipeline than we do). Probably because they aren’t stupid. We are probably unlucky with Munoz but if a Spain international is 23 and will go for 40m you expect some competition. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
r0cafella Posted 12 hours ago Share Posted 12 hours ago I know we like to Glaze Villa but they've been extremely fortunately tbh. If our owners didn't exist the are facing points deductions. Take away that European revenue and they are basically Everton. Our strategy, which we seemingly have recently adopted is sensible. We need a raft to keep us a float whilst we grow revenue. Player trading is the best way to do it. Let's put it this way, paying 55m for Wissa is much more damaging than missing out on Munoz. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe1984 Posted 12 hours ago Share Posted 12 hours ago 7 minutes ago, r0cafella said: We really need to stop with the victim mentality like, we will drive ourselves absolutely mad. Way ahead of you... 🙃 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elephant Posted 12 hours ago Share Posted 12 hours ago (edited) I have a feeling that Amanda was the reason why we managed to sign players like Bruno, Trippier and Gordon. She showed passion and motivation and that’s why players chose us. There is no passion, no ambition from the people who’s in charge for our recruitment. And players are not choosing us because we are not convincing about our ambition. We will keep missing out on player after player because other teams show more passion and ambition and players want that, Edited 12 hours ago by Elephant Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
cubaricho Posted 11 hours ago Share Posted 11 hours ago To be fair the club was a much easier sell in the early days of the takeover. It was the beginning of waking up a sleeping giant. Come here and be a hero, a legend. I’d imagine that is where Amanda found a lot of success. But we don’t have that line to sell anymore. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldtype Posted 10 hours ago Share Posted 10 hours ago 10 minutes ago, cubaricho said: To be fair the club was a much easier sell in the early days of the takeover. It was the beginning of waking up a sleeping giant. Come here and be a hero, a legend. I’d imagine that is where Amanda found a lot of success. But we don’t have that line to sell anymore. I wouldn't be surprised if some players and agents (probably rightly) assume that it's impossible for us or anyone else to break into the top six under the current regime of financial regulations. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keegans Export Posted 8 hours ago Share Posted 8 hours ago I'll say this much, if we let Tonali go before getting a replacement through the door then I'm going to have major concerns about how this summer is going to play out Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
lovejoy Posted 8 hours ago Share Posted 8 hours ago 7 minutes ago, Keegans Export said: I'll say this much, if we let Tonali go before getting a replacement through the door then I'm going to have major concerns about how this summer is going to play out I’ve got a spoiler for you here….. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
black_n_white Posted 8 hours ago Share Posted 8 hours ago 15 minutes ago, Keegans Export said: I'll say this much, if we let Tonali go before getting a replacement through the door then I'm going to have major concerns about how this summer is going to play out It’s the players who we bring in that majorly concerns me. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mole Posted 7 hours ago Share Posted 7 hours ago 5 hours ago, r0cafella said: We really need to stop with the victim mentality like, we will drive ourselves absolutely mad. I mean, not being funny but a lot of people already have Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
r0cafella Posted 7 hours ago Share Posted 7 hours ago Just now, Mole said: I mean, not being funny but a lot of people already have No lies told here Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mikky Posted 7 hours ago Share Posted 7 hours ago Guessing with Romano tweeting about Camara a few weeks back means we can rule him out Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ikon Posted 7 hours ago Share Posted 7 hours ago 19 hours ago, Mattoon said: We have a replacement lined up and he's €30m, just let the summer pan out and enjoy the WC as a welcome distraction. Went well Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jack j Posted 6 hours ago Share Posted 6 hours ago 39 minutes ago, Mikky said: Guessing with Romano tweeting about Camara a few weeks back means we can rule him out Aye Welcome to Man United Lamine Camara Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Prophet Posted 6 hours ago Share Posted 6 hours ago (edited) Aye, safe to say as soon as Romano puts the bat signal out, he's being payed to help an agent out. PTSD kicking in from last summer. Edited 3 hours ago by The Prophet Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elephant Posted 6 hours ago Share Posted 6 hours ago Club seriously need to learn putting deadline in transfer negotiations. When we just let these last for week’s, other clubs have time to react. We had ”positive talks” with Munoz for weeks and Liverpool closed in really quickly. We need to learn that, otherwise it’s just going to be disappointment afer disappointment. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
stozo Posted 6 hours ago Share Posted 6 hours ago 2 hours ago, Keegans Export said: I'll say this much, if we let Tonali go before getting a replacement through the door then I'm going to have major concerns about how this summer is going to play out Not saying it’s just you here but I think people are vastly misunderstanding our SCR position. If we assume Livramento now stays due to injury, then we almost certainly need to sell one of Tonali or Hall to balance our 26/27 SCR. The idea we’d add a new starting midfielder before getting one of those deals done is probably fantasy land, and would then leave us massively exposed when trying to negotiate any sale. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rafalove Posted 4 hours ago Share Posted 4 hours ago (edited) 6 hours ago, cubaricho said: To be fair the club was a much easier sell in the early days of the takeover. It was the beginning of waking up a sleeping giant. Come here and be a hero, a legend. I’d imagine that is where Amanda found a lot of success. But we don’t have that line to sell anymore. I think it’s to do with the change In perception of us over that time. When the takeover first happened “we were the richest club in the world”. And going to sign m’bappe. Now we’re viewed through a more tempered lens. We seem to move very slow, and we’re very risk averse. We need to change this. Personally as I’ve said previously I didn’t want this player anyway. Everything I’ve seen suggests he’s the type that likes space to run in to, and teams have figured out if they deny us that they can beat us. The fact we tried to sign him makes me worried we haven’t learned our lesson about needing more techical players, which for next season might be the biggest problem. i was more disappointed in us not getting Yohanna, and i’d still prefer if we went and got ibrahim mbaye. Edited 4 hours ago by Rafalove Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted 4 hours ago Share Posted 4 hours ago (edited) Is it just me or is 18 June not early in the transfer window? Especially in a World Cup year. According to Sky Sports list there have been 3 incoming transfers for PL clubs for money so far. Munoz to Liverpool will make 4. Edited 4 hours ago by AyeDubbleYoo Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
r0cafella Posted 4 hours ago Share Posted 4 hours ago 2 minutes ago, AyeDubbleYoo said: Is it just me or is 18 June not early in the transfer window? Especially in a World Cup year. According to Sky Sports list there have been 3 incoming transfers for PL clubs for money so far. Munoz to Liverpool will make 4. It is, but we know we have to be fast, it's been acknowledged by all parties as per reports that last season can't be repeated. Eddie needs time to get these new lads up to speed, his job depends on it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuperFlat Posted 4 hours ago Share Posted 4 hours ago 1 hour ago, Elephant said: Club seriously need to learn putting deadline in transfer negotiations. When we just let these last for week’s, other clubs have time to react. We had ”positive talks” with Munoz for weeks and Liverpool closed in really quickly. We need to learn that, otherwise it’s just going to be disappointment afer disappointment. Amazing how much insight can be gained from a handful of tweets saying Liverpool hijacked the deal. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted 4 hours ago Share Posted 4 hours ago 1 minute ago, r0cafella said: It is, but we know we have to be fast, it's been acknowledged by all parties as per reports that last season can't be repeated. Eddie needs time to get these new lads up to speed, his job depends on it. Agreed, but it would've been fast if it had happened. IMO the problem is the failure, not the moment of failure. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
r0cafella Posted 4 hours ago Share Posted 4 hours ago 5 minutes ago, AyeDubbleYoo said: Agreed, but it would've been fast if it had happened. IMO the problem is the failure, not the moment of failure. We also need to stop it with the if we got x player over the line we would have won the league crack :lol; Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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