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2 minutes ago, Rafalove said:


 

 

https://www.thesun.co.uk/sport/18106621/newcastle-de-ketelaere-transfer-blow-sunderland-mignolet/
 

 

 

 

He then admitted that he had asked goalkeeper Mignolet, who is now his team-mate at Brugge, for advice on Newcastle.
 

 

“Mignolet once told me that there’s not much to do in Newcastle.

“And that in winter, it’s dark as early as four o’clock.”

 

 

This was three years ago before he joined Milan.

 

And he's just said what Mignolet told him about Newcastle.

 

Do you really think if we did show interest, his response would be that he isn't interested because Mignolet said it got dark at 4pm?

 

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6 minutes ago, Rafalove said:


 

 

https://www.thesun.co.uk/sport/18106621/newcastle-de-ketelaere-transfer-blow-sunderland-mignolet/
 

 

 

 

He then admitted that he had asked goalkeeper Mignolet, who is now his team-mate at Brugge, for advice on Newcastle.
 

 

“Mignolet once told me that there’s not much to do in Newcastle.

“And that in winter, it’s dark as early as four o’clock.”

 


Thats from March 2022?

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18 minutes ago, Magpie Mover said:

He'll want a big pay rise and a favourable release clause before he signs a new one.  

Yep. We are in a stronger position leaving his contract as is for the moment.

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It does seem like we have a very specific transfer strategy, you could call it a reverse chelsea. Looks like we pick a small number of targets that we are absolutely sure of would fit our team, and then we go after them no matter what the situation in their club is and how available they are. Even the people we didn't end up getting proved to be really good players, like Ekitike and Joao Pedro, who fit the exact same profile as Isak and both turned out good even in different clubs.

 

Sometimes that will mean that we seemingly overpay compared to objective price like with Gordon, but once they fit in, the original price seems irrelevant to what you get for a first 11 member of a top EPL club.

 

Now, eventually there will be a big miss even though we didn't have it so far, and in that case the transfer will be ridiculed because a lot of our transfers seem overpriced in the beginning. Overall though, our hit rate is really high and I think the strategy is working well. Especially because we have a great atmosphere at the club and are willing to pay our best players well so that they stay, and each good transfer helps build up the club long term.

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1 hour ago, kocunar said:

It does seem like we have a very specific transfer strategy, you could call it a reverse chelsea. Looks like we pick a small number of targets that we are absolutely sure of would fit our team, and then we go after them no matter what the situation in their club is and how available they are. Even the people we didn't end up getting proved to be really good players, like Ekitike and Joao Pedro, who fit the exact same profile as Isak and both turned out good even in different clubs.

 

Sometimes that will mean that we seemingly overpay compared to objective price like with Gordon, but once they fit in, the original price seems irrelevant to what you get for a first 11 member of a top EPL club.

 

Now, eventually there will be a big miss even though we didn't have it so far, and in that case the transfer will be ridiculed because a lot of our transfers seem overpriced in the beginning. Overall though, our hit rate is really high and I think the strategy is working well. Especially because we have a great atmosphere at the club and are willing to pay our best players well so that they stay, and each good transfer helps build up the club long term.

 

To be fair, it's hard to have an actual transfer strategy when you don't have an actual director of football. 

 

Makes sense to be focused on a small subset of targets which we've already done a lot of work on and have deemed "can't miss" given that the recruiting staff have been largely rudderless for a while now. Not the time to be taking risks.

 

But going forward, I would hope that we start casting a wider net.

 

 

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3 hours ago, The Prophet said:

 

I'm not so sure we are.

 3yrs to run. Lower wages. Leaves on our terms. 

 

Vs

 

Longer contract on higher wages with a release clause that could easily be met by Liverpool this window and others in future windows.

 

Think I’ll take the current contract every day of the week.

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3 minutes ago, LFEE said:

 3yrs to run. Lower wages. Leaves on our terms. 

 

Vs

 

Longer contract on higher wages with a release clause that could easily be met by Liverpool this window and others in future windows.

 

Think I’ll take the current contract every day of the week.

 

Or new contract + release clause of 150m only to clubs outside of the PL.

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2 minutes ago, LFEE said:

 3yrs to run. Lower wages. Leaves on our terms. 

 

Vs

 

Longer contract on higher wages with a release clause that could easily be met by Liverpool this window and others in future windows.

 

Think I’ll take the current contract every day of the week.

 

If we don't up his wages and his contract continues to run down, it increases the liklihood of him leaving.

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20 minutes ago, STM said:

 

Or new contract + release clause of 150m only to clubs outside of the PL.

 

Better but still takes it out our hands. Succession planning for your main forward takes time.

 

A move abroad would soften the blow though i agree.

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Isak staying for 3 more years and then leaving on free is probably better for the club finances long term than selling him this year or next. 
 

He is the differential to the teams we are competing with for champions league places.  Why give up that advantage?

if we sell him and get his replacement wrong, it would set us back years. 
 

Hopefully he signs a new contract without a release clause.
But only sell if he asks to leave. 

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8 hours ago, jcat said:

Isak staying for 3 more years and then leaving on free is probably better for the club finances long term than selling him this year or next. 
 

He is the differential to the teams we are competing with for champions league places.  Why give up that advantage?

if we sell him and get his replacement wrong, it would set us back years. 
 

Hopefully he signs a new contract without a release clause.
But only sell if he asks to leave. 

If he asked to leave it massively weakens our negotiating position

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10 hours ago, kocunar said:

It does seem like we have a very specific transfer strategy, you could call it a reverse chelsea. Looks like we pick a small number of targets that we are absolutely sure of would fit our team, and then we go after them no matter what the situation in their club is and how available they are. Even the people we didn't end up getting proved to be really good players, like Ekitike and Joao Pedro, who fit the exact same profile as Isak and both turned out good even in different clubs.

 

Sometimes that will mean that we seemingly overpay compared to objective price like with Gordon, but once they fit in, the original price seems irrelevant to what you get for a first 11 member of a top EPL club.

 

Now, eventually there will be a big miss even though we didn't have it so far, and in that case the transfer will be ridiculed because a lot of our transfers seem overpriced in the beginning. Overall though, our hit rate is really high and I think the strategy is working well. Especially because we have a great atmosphere at the club and are willing to pay our best players well so that they stay, and each good transfer helps build up the club long term.

 

If we keep signing young players like we have been and some of them come good / are sold for Minteh money then the transfer fees we're paying won't matter anywhere near as much.

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17 hours ago, LFEE said:


Should’ve been in our German class. We used to lock our teacher in the classroom cupboard :lol: 

Did you go to Highfield? (On second thoughts guessing Frau Williams wasn’t ever likely to be the only victim of Geordie high jinks). 

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Sounds like Elanga and Trafford shall both be done by mid July (cautious take). Interesting to see where we go next - i think RCB is the #1 priority after those two.

 

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17 hours ago, LFEE said:


Should’ve been in our German class. We used to lock our teacher in the classroom cupboard :lol: 

 

Psychological warfare >

 

Our Year 8 German teacher was going through adjectives like funny, happy, sad, etc - and doing hand gestures/actions (on the spot) to aid us with the memorising. For 'intelligent!' he tried to mimic a lightbulb appearing above his head but inadvertently made the action as if he were wanking a knob on his head. 

 

You don't recover from that level of self-sabotage. 

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1 minute ago, Yorkie said:

 

Psychological warfare >

 

Our Year 8 German teacher was going through adjectives like funny, happy, sad, etc - and doing hand gestures/actions (on the spot) to aid us with the memorising. For 'intelligent!' he tried to mimic a lightbulb appearing above his head but inadvertently made the action as if he were wanking a knob on his head. 

 

You don't recover from that level of self-sabotage. 

And to rub insult to injury the German translation of "intelligent" is "intelligent", a rather unneccessary hill to commit teaching harakiri on. Though I guess perhaps it's more a reflection of your class that he felt the need to demonstrate it.

 

Did it go something like: "Zis is how you say 'intelligent' auf German you dumme fucks: 'intelligent'

 

"Ha ha, wanking. Knob."

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9 minutes ago, JP said:

Sounds like Elanga and Trafford shall both be done by mid July (cautious take). Interesting to see where we go next - i think RCB is the #1 priority after those two.

 

Disagree. Second striker to cover Isak is miles higher priority. With no Wilson I wouldn’t want to be relying on Osula and Gordon picking up the slack in a 50-60 game season (38 PL, 8 CL minimum, 2 each in the FA and League cups - could realistically be as high as 38, 12, 5 and 5).

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Just now, SUPERTOON said:

We have to sign another quality attacker who can step in/rotate with Isak. Next season depends on it imo.

See above, non-fucking-negotiable given the number of games we could play.

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Both are essential, I can’t really choose between them. I think moving Willock on and getting a reliable 4th choice midfielder is important as well.

 

 

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