NUFC Transfer Rumours

[Zero]

3 hours ago, andycap said:

Under 20 😂 he joined them for more than that. I'd take him but I think Chelsea will be wanting 40 mill

 

True，30m would be more realistic

 

considering his status there I don’t think Chelsea could ask for a profit. Arsenal is just idiotic to offer 50m for Madueke

[AyeDubbleYoo]

Jackson has great all round play and intelligence, I used to think he was shite but he’s just not a goalscorer. Probably be better playing with a striker or as a false 9, but not many teams do that. 

[STM]

Eddie Howe would make Jackson very good.

[The College Dropout]

1 hour ago, Shadow Puppets said:

Seems like his attitude is way off, no? Or he’s just a bit thick?

I try to not talk about players attitudes unless something is reported. 
 

Jackson has a disciplinary issue sure. Lots of yellows and at least 3 reds from memory. 
 

Attitude? Well he works hard on the pitch. Presses. Always on the move for his team mates. 
 

So when you say attitude - you referring to his body language? Or how you think he is behind the scenes?

 

Like I don’t get into it about Gordon’s attitude.  When he lost the ball against Arsenal and made a half arsed attempt at recovery - that I will talk about attitude. He needed to react better than that. But his general demeanour I don’t like telling about outside obvious frustration or if I think it’s impacting his game.  
 

I think both Jackson and Gordon often look frustrated. Jackson is often missing chances so why wouldn’t look frustrated? 😆 

[The College Dropout]

30 minutes ago, Zero said:

 

True，30m would be more realistic

 

considering his status there I don’t think Chelsea could ask for a profit. Arsenal is just idiotic to offer 50m for Madueke

Madueke and Elanga are the same level for me.  Kudus too.  
 

(I think they are all Gordon level talents. It’s about how consistent they can be and mentalities). Kudus has baller benefit from me. 

 

Different styles and attributes but all land as ‘good PL attackers’ essentially. someone like Cunha has separated himself from that pack and is worth more. 
 

 

[gbandit]

I am here once again imploring the transfer team to get Dibling over the line

[BennyBlanco]

Baller. 

 

*shudders*

[andycap]

They forked out 36 million for Jacko cannot see chelsea flogging him for less than 50 million like. They're no mugs when it comes to selling. 

[Monters]

1 minute ago, The College Dropout said:

Madueke and Elanga are the same level for me.  Kudus too.  
 

(I think they are all Gordon level talents. It’s about how consistent they can be and mentalities). Kudus has baller benefit from me. 

 

Different styles and attributes but all land as ‘good PL attackers’ essentially. someone like Cunha has separated himself from that pack and is worth more. 
 

 

Fair enough, hard to argue against that; personally I would have Madueke slightly below but that's probably my hatred of all things Chelsea... Same reason I would say no the Jackson question posed earlier. 

[BennyBlanco]

If we dropped £50m on Jackson when Scalvini or any equally talented center half can be acquired for the same money then someone in the back office wants their bumps feeling.

[andycap]

Just now, Monters said:

Fair enough, hard to argue against that; personally I would have Madueke slightly below but that's probably my hatred of all things Chelsea... Same reason I would say no the Jackson question posed earlier. 

He is lower level than Elanga as far as numbers are concerned. Madueke although talented runs down blind alleys and does to much plus he's a tosser. 

[gdm]

Did we ever establish if the plan was Joao Pedro & Elanga or one or the other?  If it was both in theory there’s £50m+ there for a JP type

[Skeletor]

That Arsenal petition is mad though. Like is Arteta going to see that petition and think "Oh guess I shouldn't sign him then".

[SteV]

3 minutes ago, gdm said:

Did we ever establish if the plan was Joao Pedro & Elanga or one or the other?  If it was both in theory there’s £50m+ there for a JP type

Edwards was adamant it was both.

[Mazzy]

5 minutes ago, gdm said:

Did we ever establish if the plan was Joao Pedro & Elanga or one or the other?  If it was both in theory there’s £50m+ there for a JP type

 

Both. He said £125M triple bid for Pedro, Elanga and Trafford .

[Shadow Puppets]

28 minutes ago, The College Dropout said:

I try to not talk about players attitudes unless something is reported. 
 

Jackson has a disciplinary issue sure. Lots of yellows and at least 3 reds from memory. 
 

Attitude? Well he works hard on the pitch. Presses. Always on the move for his team mates. 
 

So when you say attitude - you referring to his body language? Or how you think he is behind the scenes?

 

Like I don’t get into it about Gordon’s attitude.  When he lost the ball against Arsenal and made a half arsed attempt at recovery - that I will talk about attitude. He needed to react better than that. But his general demeanour I don’t like telling about outside obvious frustration or if I think it’s impacting his game.  
 

I think both Jackson and Gordon often look frustrated. Jackson is often missing chances so why wouldn’t look frustrated? 😆 

Hasn’t Jackson had multiple instances of sulking when he’s not been allowed to take a penalty, etc?

 

He just seems a bit thick to me. Like, plenty of ability, but also a liability.

[The Prophet]

 

[gbandit]

Yeah, we won’t be going anywhere near that price, be amazed if we even went to £60m for a defender based outside the PL

[southernmag]

Jackson's disciplinary record points to deeper attitude (or at least temperament) issues I think.

 

His red against us was just dumb but had an air of predictability to it. It's like we had Chelsea under some pressure (though just a normal amount for SJP), and rather than try and get the better of us with superior football, Jackson couldn't help lashing out and that was the end of him and his side's chances that day.

 

Then there's his red in the CWC recently.

[The College Dropout]

1 hour ago, andycap said:

He is lower level than Elanga as far as numbers are concerned. Madueke although talented runs down blind alleys and does to much plus he's a tosser. 

Some of this is down to play style but there’s a lot to suggest Madueke is better at build up play than Elanga. 
 

He keeps the ball better. Carries the ball a lot more. Much more likely to beat a man on the dribble. Their expected data in terms of goals and assists are similar. Where Elanga’s stats are better is team mates finishing off chances but we’ll give Elanga the edge there anyway. 
 

It’s roughly the same. It’s that Elanga seems a more focussed professional. Maybe better suited to Howe’s system.  Madueke better suited to Arsenal’s system too. Or at least the clubs they are joining from play styles closer to the new clubs. 
 

Our style is closer to Forests than Arsenal or Chelsea. Which I think is a both a strength and a weakness. I think we need to get players a bit more their type to work towards our style of player. Rather than doubling down on our style of player.  But anyway - we’ll see. 

[Roids]

1 hour ago, The College Dropout said:

Madueke and Elanga are the same level for me.  Kudus too.  
 

(I think they are all Gordon level talents. It’s about how consistent they can be and mentalities). Kudus has baller benefit from me. 

 

Different styles and attributes but all land as ‘good PL attackers’ essentially. someone like Cunha has separated himself from that pack and is worth more. 
 

 

This is disrespectful to Kudus, he's the best player of the 4

[The College Dropout]

3 minutes ago, southernmag said:

Jackson's disciplinary record points to deeper attitude (or at least temperament) issues I think.

 

His red against us was just dumb but had an air of predictability to it. It's like we had Chelsea under some pressure (though just a normal amount for SJP), and rather than try and get the better of us with superior football, Jackson couldn't help lashing out and that was the end of him and his side's chances that day.

 

Then there's his red in the CWC recently.

Agree with this.  There’s a temperament issue for sure.  
 

He’s had long spells of being 1 yellow card away from suspension and avoided the suspension (from yellow cards) so he can reign it in.  We’ve got a number of players that do that - Bruno, Joelinton, Gordon.  Mentally Bruno and Gordon in particular have bad swings. A manager like Howe helps both of them.  

[Roids]

1 hour ago, andycap said:

He is lower level than Elanga as far as numbers are concerned. Madueke although talented runs down blind alleys and does to much plus he's a tosser. 

You can critique his play (don't rate him much myself though there is some talent there) but nothing about him deserves being called a tosser

[JT24]

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BREAKING NEWS: Newcastle is considering making a move for Conor Gallagher. He is highly favored by manager Eddie Howe, who has put his name forward to strengthen the midfield. Conor fits perfectly with what he wants for the Magpies' midfield, and now it’s up to the board to take the next step, starting negotiations with Atlético de Madrid. For him to leave the club, an offer would need to come in at least close to the 42 million euros paid last season.

 

Would not hate it.

[nufc123]

1 minute ago, Roids said:

This is disrespectful to Kudus, he's the best player of the 4

Dont think thats a given.