jack j Posted July 19, 2025 Share Posted July 19, 2025 (edited) I thought after the takeover transfer windows were gonna be great fun 95% of them have been fucking infuriating for one reason or other Edited July 19, 2025 by jack j Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
toontownman Posted July 19, 2025 Share Posted July 19, 2025 2 minutes ago, Andy84 said: First year I think yeah. So essentially as we stand now we’ve spent £0 in terms of this years PSR Pretty Shit Reality For anyone outside the "big 6" Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joelinton7 Posted July 19, 2025 Share Posted July 19, 2025 The ultimate goal of the cartel and where this is all heading is that nobody but them can buy players. If clubs like us want to buy a player then we must buy from them. When we do, they will add a buy back clause so that they can re-sign them should they become too good for us. We shall sell all of our best players to them for fees dictated to us by them. If we over perform and decide we need new players to sustain this, we shall be punished through means of fine, points deductions and the forceable sale of our players. We will exist to serve the cartel only. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Menace Posted July 19, 2025 Share Posted July 19, 2025 All this cartel talk is boring. They've had 2 years to build up a transfer list and it's literally the same targets as last year. The staff can take some responsibility. Not every day blame the cartel clubs. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted July 19, 2025 Share Posted July 19, 2025 You all had it right a few pages back regarding individuals in the background. I've been hinting for over 12 months about the issues but i am tied to how far i can. You cant have roadblocks in the way and have a competent backroom, something has to give and so far everything is falling one way Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted July 19, 2025 Share Posted July 19, 2025 1 minute ago, Menace said: All this cartel talk is boring. They've had 2 years to build up a transfer list and it's literally the same targets as last year. The staff can take some responsibility. Not every day blame the cartel clubs. the list is the same as the people we brought in behind gthe scenes were friends of friends and there are people on the other side there for the same reason rather than merit. I know DA took a lot of heat for how he left but he was clever enough and political enough to navigate these issues, others who come in like battering rams will struggle. This will be a similar issue with the next guy and persuading them to come in Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JonBez comesock Posted July 19, 2025 Share Posted July 19, 2025 I am sure we should be able to identify 5 players in the whole world that want to come and we can (afford/ attract) and are good enough to improve us. We have a huge network of scouts and data that should be available to locate talent Brighton / Brentford / Bournemouth have all managed to pick a few gems every year. We’ve also picked a few good ones in the last 3 years. No excuses this summer as we also have champions league again to help our negotiations. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
PauloGeordio Posted July 19, 2025 Share Posted July 19, 2025 2 minutes ago, Tonalis Bookie said: You all had it right a few pages back regarding individuals in the background. I've been hinting for over 12 months about the issues but i am tied to how far i can. You cant have roadblocks in the way and have a competent backroom, something has to give and so far everything is falling one way Please do hint as far as you can go Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pilko Posted July 19, 2025 Share Posted July 19, 2025 6 minutes ago, Menace said: All this cartel talk is boring. They've had 2 years to build up a transfer list and it's literally the same targets as last year. The staff can take some responsibility. Not every day blame the cartel clubs. That's the bit that I find most infuriating. Nothing wrong with having consistent top targets and working across multiple windows to secure them, but it feels like the list is still incredibly limited and when we're inevitably gazumped or strung along and used as a stalking horse for Chelsea or whoever else's benefit we don't seem to have an alternative ready to quickly react and move onto. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
PauloGeordio Posted July 19, 2025 Share Posted July 19, 2025 Just now, Pilko said: That's the bit that I find most infuriating. Nothing wrong with having consistent top targets and working across multiple windows to secure them, but it feels like the list is still incredibly limited and when we're inevitably gazumped or strung along and used as a stalking horse for Chelsea or whoever else's benefit we don't seem to have an alternative ready to quickly react and move onto. We tried! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yorkie Posted July 19, 2025 Share Posted July 19, 2025 9 minutes ago, Menace said: All this cartel talk is boring. They've had 2 years to build up a transfer list and it's literally the same targets as last year. The staff can take some responsibility. Not every day blame the cartel clubs. just because you're sick of hearing it doesn't mean it isn't true. They control the market. The boss said as much himself. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
nufc123 Posted July 19, 2025 Share Posted July 19, 2025 3 minutes ago, JonBez comesock said: I am sure we should be able to identify 5 players in the whole world that want to come and we can (afford/ attract) and are good enough to improve us. Yes this bother me a little bit. Its not like we are trying to find replacements for Rodri and Aguero. Its Longstaff and Wilson, someone better than Osula. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toon1892 Posted July 19, 2025 Share Posted July 19, 2025 (edited) 31 minutes ago, black_n_white said: Does the Longstaff transfer pretty much cover the fee for Elanga in a PSR world? No they’re very separate transactions. According to the last set of accounts we would have £90M of amortisation in the 25/26 season. Add on Elanga‘s £10M, the Longstaff fee is £88M short of covering Elanga’s fee. Edited July 19, 2025 by Toon1892 Adding some punctuation Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Venkman Posted July 19, 2025 Share Posted July 19, 2025 17 minutes ago, Tonalis Bookie said: the list is the same as the people we brought in behind gthe scenes were friends of friends and there are people on the other side there for the same reason rather than merit. I know DA took a lot of heat for how he left but he was clever enough and political enough to navigate these issues, others who come in like battering rams will struggle. This will be a similar issue with the next guy and persuading them to come in What are you on about? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BennyBlanco Posted July 19, 2025 Share Posted July 19, 2025 9 minutes ago, nufc123 said: Yes this bother me a little bit. It’s not like we are trying to find replacements for Rodri and Aguero. It’s Longstaff and Wilson, someone better than Osula. Agreed. The level of risk aversion with Howes approach to players is borderline ridiculous. It’s like they all need to be the somewhat finished article and do exactly the job he needs them to do. But those are the type of player that go for a premium and who everyone else wants. Fuck me, do some actual scouting, find someone who could be a bit of a diamond in the rough and roll the dice. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Venkman Posted July 19, 2025 Share Posted July 19, 2025 Just now, BennyBlanco said: Agreed. The level of risk aversion with Howes approach to players is borderline ridiculous. It’s like they all need to be the somewhat finished article and do exactly the job he needs them to do. But those are the type of player that go for a premium and who everyone else wants. Fuck me, do some actual scouting, find someone who could be a bit of a diamond in the rough and roll the dice. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Collage Posted July 19, 2025 Share Posted July 19, 2025 16 minutes ago, nufc123 said: Yes this bother me a little bit. Its not like we are trying to find replacements for Rodri and Aguero. Its Longstaff and Wilson, someone better than Osula. Yep. But we don't have a proper recruitment team in place. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
janpawel Posted July 19, 2025 Share Posted July 19, 2025 If City get Trafford... Mike Maignan anyone?? I'm sure Chelsea were in discussions of around £15m. Not bad at all for a keeper of his calibre, 30 years old, could probably go to Saudi too after a few years. Google says his wages are €70k pw While I'm thinking of random players, Douglas Luiz too? Sure he's been touted for around £30m or so... Though wages could be an issue. 27 years old and would be a great 3rd/4th choice Maignan and Luiz for ~£45m wouldn't be a bad way to strengthen GK and CM whilst our primary targets are unavailable / seemingly hard to get done Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Weezertron Posted July 19, 2025 Share Posted July 19, 2025 We should have signed the liverpool keeper who went early in the window. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nucasol Posted July 19, 2025 Share Posted July 19, 2025 Think this one or Rudoni happens: Atletico Madrid could be forced to sell England midfielder Conor Gallagher, 25, after exceeding the number of non-EU players they are allowed to register under La Liga rules. (Cope via Goal) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keegans Export Posted July 19, 2025 Share Posted July 19, 2025 13 minutes ago, janpawel said: If City get Trafford... Mike Maignan anyone?? I'm sure Chelsea were in discussions of around £15m. Not bad at all for a keeper of his calibre, 30 years old, could probably go to Saudi too after a few years. Google says his wages are €70k pw While I'm thinking of random players, Douglas Luiz too? Sure he's been touted for around £30m or so... Though wages could be an issue. 27 years old and would be a great 3rd/4th choice Maignan and Luiz for ~£45m wouldn't be a bad way to strengthen GK and CM whilst our primary targets are unavailable / seemingly hard to get done These are the sorts of deals we should be considering, and I'd like to think we are. Are they absolutely optimal in terms of age? Not really. But in the same way we spent a period chasing Botman in that first January window then quickly moved onto Burn when we got priced out, we should be willing to be flexible. Plus, as you say, the Saudi "Get Out of Jail Free" card is there in the future. 9 minutes ago, Nucasol said: Think this one or Rudoni happens: Atletico Madrid could be forced to sell England midfielder Conor Gallagher, 25, after exceeding the number of non-EU players they are allowed to register under La Liga rules. (Cope via Goal) Would be a fantastic addition imo, at the right sort of price. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JonBez comesock Posted July 19, 2025 Share Posted July 19, 2025 23 minutes ago, Collage said: Yep. But we don't have a proper recruitment team in place. Yes it appears we are still playing catch up in lots of departments. We need to start acting like a champions league club Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
PauloGeordio Posted July 19, 2025 Share Posted July 19, 2025 2 minutes ago, Keegans Export said: These are the sorts of deals we should be considering, and I'd like to think we are. Are they absolutely optimal in terms of age? Not really. But in the same way we spent a period chasing Botman in that first January window then quickly moved onto Burn when we got priced out, we should be willing to be flexible. Plus, as you say, the Saudi "Get Out of Jail Free" card is there in the future. Would be a fantastic addition imo, at the right sort of price. Would love us to get Gallagher in. Ideal for Eddie and an upgrade on Longy. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lush Vlad Posted July 19, 2025 Share Posted July 19, 2025 Yeah. If we are going to keep missing out on our first, second and third choice targets for a position. I think we’ll have to pivot to a different profile and still look for an upgrade or significant competition. Not ideal in this PSR world we are trying to navigate. But I don’t think we’re in a position to hang tight until a certain player becomes available or for example, not spending on a CB as it was supposedly Guehi or nobody. 3 outfield players are required or we will be in for a long old season. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
OoOGazOoO Posted July 19, 2025 Share Posted July 19, 2025 At what point do we consider Elmohamady Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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