NUFC Transfer Rumours

[Elliottman]

1 minute ago, NUFCDoog said:

Aye, it's starting to look like we're going to start the season with the same squad we have now basically. Absolute disaster of a window so far 

Still a month to go man, calm the fuck down 

[Mikky]

2 minutes ago, NUFCDoog said:

Aye, it's starting to look like we're going to start the season with the same squad we have now basically. Absolute disaster of a window so far 

It’s not really surprising - it’s a shambles at board level with both Mitchell and Eales departing - they are huge roles that should have been filled at season end 

[NUFCDoog]

5 minutes ago, Elliottman said:

Still a month to go man, calm the fuck down 

Takes us a month to sign anyone man, and thats when we've been "considering an offer" for about 3 months before that 

[RS]

This shit wouldn’t be happening if Ashley was still here. 

[J7]

53 minutes ago, JT24 said:

Imagine how hard it’s going to be to do deals when clubs know we have 200m in the bank from Isak being sold to Al Hilal. 
 

Saudi tax + PL tax + Isak tax = one unhappy Andy Howe

Clubs know Chelsea, Liverpool and City have hundreds of millions in the bank, and they’re still able to buy players. City at reasonable prices too.

 

Personally, I’d be open to selling Isak at £150m plus in normal circumstances. It could help transform the squad. My worry if we did that at the moment however is that we seem to be pretty clueless getting players in. 

[stozo]

48 minutes ago, duo said:

That will be part of it of course - but he'll also want to see we are strengthening the side to compete.  It'd certainly help our cause. 

I think this is the problem most of our fans have right now though - we’ve become a bit detached from the PSR reality. 
 

Put simply, there is no way we can renew Isak at £350kpw AND substantially invest in the squad. The implications of doing the Isak deal would both massively erode our PSR headroom directly but also in a secondary way by moving the dial on what we pay our current and future players. 

[Collage]

No matter what happens, look back and realise we’re in a good place and we won a fucking cup man  I hope Howe stays forever, btw

[Keegans Export]

5 minutes ago, stozo said:

I think this is the problem most of our fans have right now though - we’ve become a bit detached from the PSR reality. 
 

Put simply, there is no way we can renew Isak at £350kpw AND substantially invest in the squad. The implications of doing the Isak deal would both massively erode our PSR headroom directly but also in a secondary way by moving the dial on what we pay our current and future players. 

Really? £150k/week is £7.8m - we got more than that for Longstaff. Plus if we extend it reduces his amortisation on the accounts 

[Super Duper Branko Strupar]

1 hour ago, Skeletor said:

The lesson we have to learn is that if we want to shop at the top table, we have to be wiling to pay what the selling club wants. Haggle and another club will be in there getting the deal done.

 

Also need to be able to offer top wages, which with our current income, we can not. 

[BeloEmre]

Just now, Super Duper Branko Strupar said:

 

Also need to be able to offer top wages, which with our current income, we can not. 

So why are we going after those players then? Find our level and make some deals ffs.

[stozo]

3 minutes ago, Keegans Export said:

Really? £150k/week is £7.8m - we got more than that for Longstaff. Plus if we extend it reduces his amortisation on the accounts 

Bruno is our top earner at sub-£200k per week. I imagine Isak will be in the region of £150kpw based on the fact he signed pre-Bruno extension and that he wasn’t an elite player when he signed. So you are looking at more like £10m per year.

 

There are then a few things to consider. Number one is the main problem is not the Premier League’s PSR rules, it’s UEFA’s wages to turnover ratio rules. If you give Isak an extra £200k per week then MAYBE Longstaff was on £50k per week - so that means you still have to take another £150k per week off the wage bill to even stand still before signing another player.

 

Then you factor in that Isak re-signing breaks the dam on our wage control. Every single negotiation you do after that (renewal or signing) becomes benchmarked against that. Botman, Gordon et al. now know you can and do go that high, so every negotiation becomes more expensive. 

 

And finally, it’s very conceivable £350kpw doesn’t get the deal done. I put a plus on the end for a reason. It is absolutely not inconceivable that a Liverpool or Chelsea of this world make it known to his agent that he’d get £400kpw-£500kpw there and that then becomes the figure you have to match. 

[Kid Icarus]

I really hope the contingency plan is something along the lines of okay, we need 5, but let's spend what's needed and guarantee 4.

[nufc123]

Howe: "We're seeking players that are good enough, that are desperate to come, and that can make the difference but they're on short supply for us.

 

I get that but right now its a ST better than Osula and cover for Longstaff. 

[Super Duper Branko Strupar]

16 minutes ago, BeloEmre said:

So why are we going after those players then? Find our level and make some deals ffs.

 

If we find our level then we don't increase or level though...

[Nucasol]

57 minutes ago, Andy84 said:

Fuck 

At least he’s honest. We’re perpetually playing by the rules whilst others are bending them like an Uri Gellar spoon.

[ElDiablo]

We seem to want the absolute perfect signings without the financial muscle to get them over the line. Same thing last summer, something has to give.

[BeloEmre]

7 minutes ago, Super Duper Branko Strupar said:

 

If we find our level then we don't increase or level though...

Our level to shop from, not our own level of players. 
 

We can’t just keep messing around about a small pot of players etc and not get anyone over the line.

[Memphis]

22 minutes ago, stozo said:

Then you factor in that Isak re-signing breaks the dam on our wage control. Every single negotiation you do after that (renewal or signing) becomes benchmarked against that. Botman, Gordon et al. now know you can and do go that high, so every negotiation becomes more expensive. 

 

This is a great point and really important - a lot of our fans are overlooking this. 

 

If we somehow put Isak on 350k/wk, Tonali is going to want (and deserve) 300, Bruno as well, any player we negotiate with is going to use that as a benchmark, it's going to lead to a massive inflation of our wage bill and that's not sustainable for us right now. Until the rules are overturned, PSR is a fucking killer for us. 

 

This whole thing fucking sucks but a lot of it is out of our control. 

[midds]

If only there were ways of getting more sponsorship money into the club, goshdarnit 

[Justdoesit]

This is all infuriating, but correct.

 

Chuck £100-200m at youngsters in the next few years and we will be somewhere close to what Chelsea were in 2018. Vile.

 

 

5 minutes ago, Memphis said:

 

This is a great point and really important - a lot of our fans are overlooking this. 

 

If we somehow put Isak on 350k/wk, Tonali is going to want (and deserve) 300, Bruno as well, any player we negotiate with is going to use that as a benchmark, it's going to lead to a massive inflation of our wage bill and that's not sustainable for us right now. Until the rules are overturned, PSR is a fucking killer for us. 

 

This whole thing fucking sucks but a lot of it is out of our control. 

 

[The Bonk]

7 hours ago, KaKa said:

Another day another set of repetitive posts from the day before about how we aren't going to get the signings we need in. So fun.

N-O invented AI slop posts before LLMs became mainstream. 

[gdm]

 

[black_n_white]

Does the Longstaff transfer pretty much cover the fee for Elanga in a PSR world?

[nufcjmc]

Just now, black_n_white said:

Does the Longstaff transfer pretty much cover the fee for Elanga in a PSR world?

Year 1 of it yes depending on wage difference if longstaff to elanga. Doesn't help for the other 4 years. 

[Andy84]

Just now, black_n_white said:

Does the Longstaff transfer pretty much cover the fee for Elanga in a PSR world?

First year I think yeah. So essentially as we stand now we’ve spent £0 in terms of this years PSR