Geordie_once_removed Posted August 9, 2023 Share Posted August 9, 2023 Willock, Anderson and Murphy have to be considered as at least decent "in an emergency" options for a wide forward/winger on either side. All of them would be 3 choice of lower for either wing (maybe not Anderson as we're not sure what will come from him). Because of this I'm pretty sure were not actively looking at wingers and I think that is the right approach. Next summer with Miggy one year older and other positions addressed we can spaff a load of money at a "wow" signing on the RW. We're just not able to do that right now. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crayola Kid Posted August 9, 2023 Share Posted August 9, 2023 From a Jonathon Wilson Q+A in the Guardian today With players like Trent Alexander-Arnold flowing between full-back and midfield, is there a shift towards position-less football? Are there any other tactical innovations unfolding, or that you see occurring in the near future? Kris, Massachusetts While positions are obviously important for basic defensive structure, I think that’s been a growing trend for a while. I remember talking to Slaven Bilić 20 years ago and him saying how he prefers to think in terms of roles rather than positions. Essentially formations, at the highest level, are rough guides rather the governing structures they were three or four decades ago. The biggest innovation now, I think, is data – although that’s a very difficult innovation to track from the outside. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bimpy474 Posted August 9, 2023 Share Posted August 9, 2023 11 minutes ago, LFEE said: We usually played with a midfield 3 of Joelinton Bruno and Longstaff. Willock was always the most advanced wide left filling in for ASM. Only time I saw Willock actually in midfield was when Joelinton or Bruno was suspended it felt. Either way I’d definitely consider him to be on the list as wide forwards. Pretty sure that's not quite right mate, opposite to what Tron said actually, my take was from inside to drifting out. however you saying about Willock playing wide has to be a defo thing ongoing, we have to get him in the team. Whatever way it goes, rotation is definitely something we can do now without weakning us across the front and midfield, it's just defensively where I would worry when resting or rotating. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
madras Posted August 9, 2023 Share Posted August 9, 2023 51 minutes ago, Sima said: Possibly, but I'm not too keen on Chalobah. He's a cast-off from another team and it looks to be a bit of panic buying. I'm not keen on him either. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Prophet Posted August 9, 2023 Share Posted August 9, 2023 Everyone's favourite reporter, but a rumour is a rumour. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gallowgate Toon Posted August 9, 2023 Share Posted August 9, 2023 Think it's pretty fair to say Willock played as a weird CM-winger hybrid last season. I'm sure there's a football hipster term for it based on some German or Italian word. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
madras Posted August 9, 2023 Share Posted August 9, 2023 1 minute ago, Gallowgate Toon said: Think it's pretty fair to say Willock played as a weird CM-winger hybrid last season. I'm sure there's a football hipster term for it based on some German or Italian word. When it was him and Joe on the left they dovetailed, read each other really well which made them a bugger to get close to. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
andyc35i Posted August 9, 2023 Share Posted August 9, 2023 2 minutes ago, The Prophet said: Everyone's favourite reporter, but a rumour is a rumour. I just don’t see the one happening. And I’d actually rather just keep playing Schar unless we find someone with a different profile to him (the pace and power mould that we all keep talking about) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
McCormick Posted August 9, 2023 Share Posted August 9, 2023 Andersen is such a good player and a better version of Schar (as harsh as that sounds) but paying anything north of 30 for him would be a waste, considering his age. Ideally we’d be getting someone with the same passing ability but younger and more pacey/ athletic; not sure who tbh, but anyone with that kind of profile wouldn’t come cheap. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rich Posted August 9, 2023 Share Posted August 9, 2023 Is 27 old for a centre-back these days? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shak Posted August 9, 2023 Share Posted August 9, 2023 55 minutes ago, Deuce said: Clipped by a stray in this shootout ? Joke was that Dan isn't actually American, hard as that is to believe. (And ironic as it is for me to be making that joke, yes) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slim Posted August 9, 2023 Share Posted August 9, 2023 Bring him home Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rich Posted August 9, 2023 Share Posted August 9, 2023 11 minutes ago, The Prophet said: Everyone's favourite reporter, but a rumour is a rumour. This one doesn't seem to be going away, like. Had no clue he'd played with Bruno at Lyon for a bit. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dokko Posted August 9, 2023 Share Posted August 9, 2023 6 minutes ago, Rich said: Is 27 old for a centre-back these days? Should be good for 5 years and coming into his peak. Think it's a bit of a gamble to go botman age again with him still needing an experienced partner to guide him through these next few years. Anderson is bang in the middle. Good move in that respect. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted August 9, 2023 Share Posted August 9, 2023 Anderson would be great, but a big blow for Palace to let him leave. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
McCormick Posted August 9, 2023 Share Posted August 9, 2023 11 minutes ago, Rich said: Is 27 old for a centre-back these days? Thought he was 2 years older! Suppose that’s not too bad but it’s slightly over what we usually go for. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Prophet Posted August 9, 2023 Share Posted August 9, 2023 Anderson would be an upgrade on Schar and I love a bit of Schar. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kanji Posted August 9, 2023 Share Posted August 9, 2023 14 minutes ago, Shak said: Joke was that Dan isn't actually American, hard as that is to believe. (And ironic as it is for me to be making that joke, yes) ya, cmon bruh. The Big and Little Joe left side was hybrid, one chose to play further than the other but always felt Big Joe lined up at left wing more but often tucked further back than Willock when we were in defense. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
McDog Posted August 9, 2023 Share Posted August 9, 2023 57 minutes ago, LFEE said: We usually played with a midfield 3 of Joelinton Bruno and Longstaff. Willock was always the most advanced wide left filling in for ASM. Only time I saw Willock actually in midfield was when Joelinton or Bruno was suspended it felt. Either way I’d definitely consider him to be on the list as wide forwards. Per Transfer Market it looks like he ALWAYS plays somewhere in the midfield. He certainly can drift wide of course. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mighty__mag Posted August 9, 2023 Share Posted August 9, 2023 21 minutes ago, McCormick said: Andersen is such a good player and a better version of Schar (as harsh as that sounds) but paying anything north of 30 for him would be a waste, considering his age. Ideally we’d be getting someone with the same passing ability but younger and more pacey/ athletic; not sure who tbh, but anyone with that kind of profile wouldn’t come cheap. He has good shithousery also ?? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gaztoon Posted August 9, 2023 Share Posted August 9, 2023 Just have this feeling we've got something big in the works. It's only a feeling and it could just be wind ? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiresias Posted August 9, 2023 Share Posted August 9, 2023 2 minutes ago, McDog said: Per Transfer Market it looks like he ALWAYS plays somewhere in the midfield. He certainly can drift wide of course. I'm really sorry but i trust my eyes lol. He 100% swapped interchangeably with joelinton frequently in games they both played in and it was tremendously successful Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
arnonel Posted August 9, 2023 Share Posted August 9, 2023 11 minutes ago, Gaztoon said: Just have this feeling we've got something big in the works. It's only a feeling and it could just be wind ? Same Think we get 2 more in for first team Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mazzy Posted August 9, 2023 Share Posted August 9, 2023 Schars injury is perhaps a blessing in disguise, similar to how Wilsons was last summer. We've always needed another CB since this time last year but now it's far more urgent. I'd be happy with Andersen, assuming the price is fair, but if its not then the club won't pay it anyway. There's a handful of other younger CBs in Europe we could get but atleast with Andersen he fits in the void almost perfectly left by Schar without the need for much moulding or settling in. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rich Posted August 9, 2023 Share Posted August 9, 2023 12 minutes ago, Tiresias said: I'm really sorry but i trust my eyes lol. He 100% swapped interchangeably with joelinton frequently in games they both played in and it was tremendously successful He always started games in central midfield, though, which is what I think people might be getting mixed up by. Arguing two different things. He typically ended with a higher average position than Joelinton and on the occasions when we went 4-2-3-1 with them both in the team, it was Willock rather than Joelinton who played on the wing, with Big Jow moving back into the midfield two. Honestly think Willock could play in any attacking midfield position, including on either wing, with good success. He's such a natural footballer and a great athlete, plus he still has plenty of time on his side, too. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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