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7 minutes ago, Dokko said:

 

All very meh signings bar Woltemade, who will need a season to get up to speed. Gimped put at selling our star player, plus a series of damaging rejections. Disaster of a window. 

 

 

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Its bare minimum in the sense this is what was needed to try and keep up. All the sides above us last season have leveled up heavily. So have other clubs around us.

 

What I would say of pretty much all the players we have brought in is:

 

- None of them are coming as out of favour at previous clubs, infact most clubs didnt want to sell

- None are journeyman bouncing around.

- All come with confidence from last season (maybe Ramsey aside)

- We have been largely tactical and other than Wissa haven't overpaid ridiculously.

 

There is no window that "slams shut" that we don't think, "could have done with a couple more". Another Mid and versatile young striker would have been perfect. LB and CB (with Lascelles out) if we are being really greedy.

 

Far from a disaster in the end given everything thats gone on. Will need 1 or 2 more in January though.

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13 minutes ago, Dokko said:

 

We'll be miles off this season. None of these players are a massive upgrade. Liverpool are now untouchable, and we've allowed that to happen. 

PSR made them untouchable long before now. There's no competing with clubs ahead of you that can spend more money than you every year indefinitely, football has allowed it to happen

 

 

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8 minutes ago, Ghandis Flip-Flop said:


Were we realistically going for the title this year like? You forgot to log off and back on as TBG?

 

Never said we were. Us allowing Liverpool to have the best striker in the league on the cheap, means pif can kiss their no1 shite goodbye (whatever tge timescale). Next 5 years is all them, and if we do land a player capable, they'll just take them off us. 

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13 minutes ago, Dokko said:

 

We'll be miles off this season. None of these players are a massive upgrade. Liverpool are now untouchable, and we've allowed that to happen. 

Fucking hell mate, we've added depth which is what weve been missing.  We now hopefully have 2 good strikers.  If you take pens out of it there isnt much difference in Wissa last season and Isak from goals.  Woltemade christ knows but he looks great and the option weve been crying out for to unlock low blocks.

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Just now, Dokko said:

 

Never said we were. Us allowing Liverpool to have the best striker in the league on the cheap, means pif can kiss their no1 shite goodbye (whatever tge timescale). Next 5 years is all them, and if we do land a player capable, they'll just take them off us. 

£130m is cheap now? I get it wasn't quite £150m but howay :lol: 

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2 minutes ago, Dokko said:

 

Never said we were. Us allowing Liverpool to have the best striker in the league on the cheap, means pif can kiss their no1 shite goodbye (whatever tge timescale). Next 5 years is all them, and if we do land a player capable, they'll just take them off us. 

Fucking hell this has to be a windup. And if we win a cup they'll just win a better cup! And if anything good happens they'll make BAD things happen, and what's even the point of even trying to do anything anyway, we may as well just wait for the sweet release of death...you muppet :lol:

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17 minutes ago, Dokko said:

 

We'll be miles off this season. None of these players are a massive upgrade. Liverpool are now untouchable, and we've allowed that to happen. 

You didn't see the match at SJP where we limited Liverpool to five shots with 10 men?

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5 minutes ago, Dokko said:

 

Never said we were. Us allowing Liverpool to have the best striker in the league on the cheap, means pif can kiss their no1 shite goodbye (whatever tge timescale). Next 5 years is all them, and if we do land a player capable, they'll just take them off us. 

 

I'll say it. We were genuinely title contenders if we made the upgrades we needed and held on to our best players.

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5 minutes ago, Dokko said:

 

Never said we were. Us allowing Liverpool to have the best striker in the league on the cheap, means pif can kiss their no1 shite goodbye (whatever tge timescale). Next 5 years is all them, and if we do land a player capable, they'll just take them off us. 


We didn’t sell them Haaland (we can admit he's streets ahead now that Isak's gone) and I’m not convinced Isak actually pushes the needle that much further for them than Ekitike already has done. I actually reckon them replacing Konate with Guehi providing it goes through will be more important business for them.

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2 minutes ago, relámpago blanco said:

Fucking hell mate, we've added depth which is what weve been missing.  We now hopefully have 2 good strikers.  If you take pens out of it there isnt much difference in Wissa last season and Isak from goals.  Woltemade christ knows but he looks great and the option weve been crying out for to unlock low blocks.

 

Like I said, Woltemade is the best of them, but we'll be lucky to see him shine this season. 

 

I'm probably one of Ramsdales biggest fans on here (was of pope before he signed as well) but it's not that upgrade we needed, or long term solution, and we still have to pay for him next year.

 

Thaiw isn't going to improve the starting xi. He's not as good as botman and isn't as essential as schar. If he takes schar place on merit by the end of the season I'll be delighted.

 

Elanga is an upgrade on moggy, but in terms of goals and assists, again he'll do well to beat Murphy. Think for the price, we'd have done better going elsewhere.

 

Don't get Ramsey as a signing. Position, talent or injury record. Slight upgrade on willock, but not the xi.

 

Wissa is a massive downgrade on isak, but Tbf to him, anyone would be and that's the issue.

 

 

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Just now, Dokko said:

 

Like I said, Woltemade is the best of them, but we'll be lucky to see him shine this season. 

 

I'm probably one of Ramsdales biggest fans on here (was of pope before he signed as well) but it's not that upgrade we needed, or long term solution, and we still have to pay for him next year.

 

Thaiw isn't going to improve the starting xi. He's not as good as botman and isn't as essential as schar. If he takes schar place on merit by the end of the season I'll be delighted.

 

Elanga is an upgrade on moggy, but in terms of goals and assists, again he'll do well to beat Murphy. Think for the price, we'd have done better going elsewhere.

 

Don't get Ramsey as a signing. Position, talent or injury record. Slight upgrade on willock, but not the xi.

 

Wissa is a massive downgrade on isak, but Tbf to him, anyone would be and that's the issue.

 

 

Murphy had a purple season he isn't going to do that every season if ever again.  Elangas numbers are solid.  Might take him a while to get up to speed and Ill give him the chance to prove himself along with the rest as we havent really made any bad signings since the takeover.

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1 minute ago, Dokko said:

 

Like I said, Woltemade is the best of them, but we'll be lucky to see him shine this season. 

 

I'm probably one of Ramsdales biggest fans on here (was of pope before he signed as well) but it's not that upgrade we needed, or long term solution, and we still have to pay for him next year.

 

Thaiw isn't going to improve the starting xi. He's not as good as botman and isn't as essential as schar. If he takes schar place on merit by the end of the season I'll be delighted.

 

Elanga is an upgrade on moggy, but in terms of goals and assists, again he'll do well to beat Murphy. Think for the price, we'd have done better going elsewhere.

 

Don't get Ramsey as a signing. Position, talent or injury record. Slight upgrade on willock, but not the xi.

 

Wissa is a massive downgrade on isak, but Tbf to him, anyone would be and that's the issue.

 

 

If anyone beats Murphy's output last season, then they are doing exceedingly well. Some on here act like that's average for a winger. Elanga has produced somewhat similar over two seasons.

 

 

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5 minutes ago, Vinny Green Balls said:

If we didn't pull off a massive surprise in Woltemade we'd have very good reason to be extremely pissed off. But this fucker could well be a proper X factor. 

It looks a very ordinary and unexciting window outside of Big Nick. You’re right though he could be the real wild card that gives us creativity and excitement.

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