AyeDubbleYoo Posted June 27, 2023 Share Posted June 27, 2023 On 27/06/2023 at 01:31, TheBrownBottle said: I still find the criticism of Burn odd. Are we that sure the Eddie Howe just can’t see that he has a better left back in his squad than Burn? Or maybe he prefers Burn to Targett for a reason, and he knows a bit more about football team selection than us? Expand I think most people agree with all that, but Burn could still be an area of improvement. Of course he has reasons for keeping Burn in the team. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gjohnson Posted June 27, 2023 Share Posted June 27, 2023 On 27/06/2023 at 08:43, TheBrownBottle said: Yep Expand Our defence has not been the problem this year, it has been turning draws into wins. Yes we need a forward plan as Schaar is not getting any younger, and neither is Trippier. It is difficult to argue for dropping either presently but they can't go on forever and there is no guarantee that any replacement will do as well as they have. Saying that, if they can carry it on for a season or two we could well be established enough to be looking at genuine upgrades. In terms of turning draws into wins, who gets dropped and replaced? With Tonali coming in Willock seems most likely to be dropped in the medium term at least Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
madras Posted June 27, 2023 Share Posted June 27, 2023 On 27/06/2023 at 08:50, gjohnson said: Our defence has not been the problem this year, it has been turning draws into wins. Yes we need a forward plan as Schaar is not getting any younger, and neither is Trippier. It is difficult to argue for dropping either presently but they can't go on forever and there is no guarantee that any replacement will do as well as they have. Saying that, if they can carry it on for a season or two we could well be established enough to be looking at genuine upgrades. In terms of turning draws into wins, who gets dropped and replaced? With Tonali coming in Willock seems most likely to be dropped in the medium term at least Expand Don't look at it as dropped, with the amount of games we'll have at a higher level, see it as 5 positions that possibly 8 or 9 of them will share. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
samptime29 Posted June 27, 2023 Share Posted June 27, 2023 Don't get it. We have 3 right backs. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Menace Posted June 27, 2023 Share Posted June 27, 2023 One is approaching 33, the other has just done his ACL and the other isn't good enough? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
samptime29 Posted June 27, 2023 Share Posted June 27, 2023 On 27/06/2023 at 09:42, Menace said: One is approaching 33, the other has just done his ACL and the other isn't good enough? Expand But clearly other parts of the team need investment more than right back. Zero point in buying Ashby if we're going to buy another right back. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Menace Posted June 27, 2023 Share Posted June 27, 2023 Ashby was a cheap punt - hard to know if it will pay off or not but essentially a mill or 2 for a squad player that might or might not work out is worth the gamble I guess. I do think both full back positioning needs strengthening to be honest - Livramento is the perfect understudy to Trippier, they are very similar players too. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRon Posted June 27, 2023 Share Posted June 27, 2023 Yeah I think we have to look at Ashby as a cheap punt, clearly he's not ready to throw into the mix. Doesn't mean it was a bad signing, just not the answer. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted June 27, 2023 Share Posted June 27, 2023 I don’t know how people think transfers work. Especially under a progressive and ambitious regime, we will always look for promising targets when they become available. And I’m pretty sure we don’t stop calling people about other positions while we do this deal. We are class, just have a bit of faith. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
r0cafella Posted June 27, 2023 Share Posted June 27, 2023 Guys Ashby was basically free. Really not worth stressing about. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
NWMag Posted June 27, 2023 Share Posted June 27, 2023 If in 2 years trippier is retired and Tino is first choice RB, Ashby may well be good enough to be 2nd choice - if not we can probably move him on at no loss, possibly a profit Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
samptime29 Posted June 27, 2023 Share Posted June 27, 2023 On 27/06/2023 at 10:01, Menace said: Ashby was a cheap punt - hard to know if it will pay off or not but essentially a mill or 2 for a squad player that might or might not work out is worth the gamble I guess. I do think both full back positioning needs strengthening to be honest - Livramento is the perfect understudy to Trippier, they are very similar players too. Expand Fair enough. We'll see how it pans out. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Emotic Posted June 27, 2023 Share Posted June 27, 2023 Cue everyone's surprise when this is shown up to be a smokescreen for Carlos Alcaraz by tomorrow. Our club loves to undermine Puke Edwards. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SUPERTOON Posted June 27, 2023 Share Posted June 27, 2023 Edwards yet again jumped the gun on this one Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
McCormick Posted June 27, 2023 Share Posted June 27, 2023 Seemed unlikely we’d get him for less than 25m tbh. Shame. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Prophet Posted June 27, 2023 Share Posted June 27, 2023 One that might rumble on later into the window. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr.Spaceman Posted June 27, 2023 Share Posted June 27, 2023 Is this a case of FFP screwing the relegated clubs? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt1892 Posted June 27, 2023 Share Posted June 27, 2023 How much is Ivan Fresneda likely or cost in comparison? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Manxst Posted June 27, 2023 Share Posted June 27, 2023 On 27/06/2023 at 12:02, Matt1892 said: How much is Ivan Fresneda likely or cost in comparison? Expand He’s got an active 20m Euros clause. (Around £17m) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deuce Posted June 27, 2023 Share Posted June 27, 2023 On 27/06/2023 at 12:02, Matt1892 said: How much is Ivan Fresneda likely or cost in comparison? Expand about 7 Ashby’s Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
rebelrouser Posted June 27, 2023 Share Posted June 27, 2023 On 27/06/2023 at 08:47, AyeDubbleYoo said: I think most people agree with all that, but Burn could still be an area of improvement. Of course he has reasons for keeping Burn in the team. Expand Targett missed 15 games and 78 days last season. I think EH starts to get him more playing time. Burn is a valuable back up lb and cb. Our defense got us to CL but it also was looking a bit worn out in the end. 2 clean sheets the last 20 games (10%); 16 clean sheets in the 26 games before (62%). Really wonderful streak from November trough January. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Likelylad Posted June 27, 2023 Share Posted June 27, 2023 Obviously i'm aware of the whole. Player's cost what their club's value them at ethos. However, some of these relegated clubs are seriously taking the piss. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Manxst Posted June 27, 2023 Share Posted June 27, 2023 On 27/06/2023 at 12:44, Likelylad said: Obviously i'm aware of the whole. Player's cost what their club's value them at ethos. However, some of these relegated clubs are seriously taking the piss. Expand Numbers would seem so, but the value of getting promotion back to the PL outweighs what they will want in a ‘reduced because of relegation’ transfer fee. If they can afford to pay the wages (I guess a lot of ‘lower’ level clubs will have relegation wage clauses?) it’s a no brainer to try and keep your best players. Or else try and get as much as possible to replace them. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gjohnson Posted June 27, 2023 Share Posted June 27, 2023 On 27/06/2023 at 09:40, samptime29 said: Don't get it. We have 3 right backs. Expand We have one with genuine quality, who is only going to decline as age catches up. One who is solid enough but doesn't offer a lot going forward, and another who is like the second but slightly worse. We do need a long term replacement for Trippier ability wise at least. Replacing his leadership will be more difficult Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
McDog Posted June 27, 2023 Share Posted June 27, 2023 On 27/06/2023 at 01:32, TheBrownBottle said: Or maybe transfermarkt is wrong? How does it establish value? Expand Seems like it's pretty arbitrary. Not sure how they calculate it. Actual value is whatever someone is willing to pay. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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