Benjamin Šeško (playing for Man United)

[1964]

Doesn't he have similar stats to Isak when we signed him?

[Yorkie]

2 minutes ago, Doctor Zaius said:

What's so good about Sesko? Admittedly, I've only seen him at the EUROs where he looked absolutely rubbish.

 

His Bundesliga record isn't particularly good? 

 

He's scored some right fucking blasties.

 

Signing buzzy young strikers from the continent is always gonna be an exciting prospect, whether you've seen him or not. If we got him and a more seasoned PL striker (if it's DCL, so be it imo), we've addressed the Isak thing pretty well tbh.

 

I've never seen him play.

[sushimonster85]

3 minutes ago, 1964 said:

Doesn't he have similar stats to Isak when we signed him?

 

If we do get him he will actually be coming in off the back of a better season than the one Isak had before we signed him.

[80]

The most entertaining outcome is that we actually beat Man United to his signature, and he proves to be an absolute stinker of a signing, with us finally getting a 'miss' that tanks our project. So that's probably what will happen. Think early Joelinton with the attitude of Owen and the robustness of Marcelino.

[Whitley mag]

Haven’t read it but apparently positive update in this re Sesko and us.

 

Edit can’t find anything positive related in that.

 

 

 

 

Edited July 29, 2025 by Whitley mag

[sushimonster85]

From the above:

 

'Sources close to negotiations over Sesko currently rate Newcastle as his most likely destination ahead of United, but that is not to say the Manchester club are out of the race.'

[Froggy]

14 hours ago, Menace said:

Imagine how insufferable Froggy will be if he goes there 

 

It's not really my thing.  

 

I just don't like when people try and suggest we've no pull and that if it wasn't for money, there's no reason for a player to choose us over Newcastle. That's just absurd.

 

What I also disagree with is the suggestion that you don't have money and can't compete with the "cartel." Mbeumo has the same base wage as Anthony Gordon. I've no doubt you'd have offered him the same wage we did. 

[Froggy]

Also worth noting I think the fee is ridiculous and I'm not convinced by him at all, but then I thought Isak's fee was big too.

 

 

Edited July 29, 2025 by Froggy

[TRon]

3 minutes ago, Froggy said:

 

It's not really my thing.  

 

I just don't like when people try and suggest we've no pull and that if it wasn't for money, there's no reason for a player to choose us over Newcastle. That's just absurd.

 

What I also disagree with is the suggestion that you don't have money and can't compete with the "cartel." Mbeumo has the same base wage as Anthony Gordon. I've no doubt you'd have offered him the same wage we did. 

 

 

Man U do have pull, don't care what people say on here. They are a historically big club with a massive worldwide fanbase. But we can't compete with the cartel because of the way you have rigged PSR. At least admit that much if you want recognition as a big club. 

[Yorkie]

4 minutes ago, Froggy said:

What I also disagree with is the suggestion that you don't have money and can't compete with the "cartel." Mbeumo has the same base wage as Anthony Gordon. I've no doubt you'd have offered him the same wage we did. 

 

It's not as simple as "we don't have money," but I'm sure certain no one wants another day of discussion about how PSR impacts the competitive balance, and how that stacks up against our own structural issues this summer.

[Froggy]

Just now, TRon said:

Man U do have pull, don't care what people say on here. They are a historically big club with a massive worldwide fanbase. But we can't compete with the cartel because of the way you have rigged PSR. At least admit that much if you want recognition as a big club. 

 

It would have been a sportswashing circus without PSR. In 20 years time you've have had 20 teams all owned by the middle east just firing money between each other as if it's some sort of plaything. 

 

As it stands, your owners are free to pump billions into a new stadium, new training ground, new youth facilities etc. and you will suffer no PSR consequence. In time your youth products will improve and you will be selling them for large amounts similar to Man City. You can compete just fine, it's just going to take time for you to become title challengers and start attracting the very best players. Do any of you truly believe you won't be at or near the top in the next 15 years? 

 

If the shoe was on the other foot, and PIF had bought us, I believe you'd be counting your blessings that PSR exists.

[bobbydazzla]

2 minutes ago, Froggy said:

 

It would have been a sportswashing circus without PSR. In 20 years time you've have had 20 teams all owned by the middle east just firing money between each other as if it's some sort of plaything. 

 

As it stands, your owners are free to pump billions into a new stadium, new training ground, new youth facilities etc. and you will suffer no PSR consequence. In time your youth products will improve and you will be selling them for large amounts similar to Man City. You can compete just fine, it's just going to take time for you to become title challengers and start attracting the very best players. Do any of you truly believe you won't be at or near the top in the next 15 years? 

 

If the shoe was on the other foot, and PIF had bought us, I believe you'd be counting your blessings that PSR exists.

 

 

 

[Froggy]

9 minutes ago, Yorkie said:

 

It's not as simple as "we don't have money," but I'm sure certain no one wants another day of discussion about how PSR impacts the competitive balance, and how that stacks up against our own structural issues this summer.

 

Certainly impacted us when we were fighting on all four fronts and all we could afford was Wout Weghorst on loan.  

[gdm]

2 minutes ago, Froggy said:

 

It would have been a sportswashing circus without PSR. In 20 years time you've have had 20 teams all owned by the middle east just firing money between each other as if it's some sort of plaything. 

 

As it stands, your owners are free to pump billions into a new stadium, new training ground, new youth facilities etc. and you will suffer no PSR consequence. In time your youth products will improve and you will be selling them for large amounts similar to Man City. You can compete just fine, it's just going to take time for you to become title challengers and start attracting the very best players. Do any of you truly believe you won't be at or near the top in the next 15 years? 

 

If the shoe was on the other foot, and PIF had bought us, I believe you'd be counting your blessings that PSR exists.

ah yeah having 15 teams owned by Americans who wanted to jump to ESL, sell hotels & womens teams to themselves and all the other Americanised bullshit they’ve been doing is so much better isn’t it. The premier league is a 4 team league (1 Abu Dhabi & 3 American) and the rest make up the numbers. Would be 4 American but Man Utd fucked it 

[Kimbo]

19 minutes ago, sushimonster85 said:

From the above:

 

'Sources close to negotiations over Sesko currently rate Newcastle as his most likely destination ahead of United, but that is not to say the Manchester club are out of the race.'

Sounds like *insert ESL club* better put a bid in quickly if they want to get him.

[Ikon]

Watkins is a safer and better signing than Sesko is now. He is more or less guaranteed to produce from the off. Having said that, I prefer us to go for Sesko for many reasons even if more expensive. Obviously because he’s a lot younger but mostly because his potential ceiling is ridiculous and I can genuinely see him fulfilling it under Howe given some patience and time. 
 

He is by no means the finished article as of now and there’s a lot to be worked on. He’s got everything, pace, power and agility despite his size. Good technical ability and so on. Just needs to iron out a few bits here and there in his game. When maturing and developing under Howe I genuinely don’t see it taking too long before he’s one hell of a player. It’s mostly about decision making. Oh, and we need to get him over the line first  

 

 

Edited July 29, 2025 by Ikon

[Froggy]

Just now, gdm said:

ah yeah having 15 teams owned by Americans who wanted to jump to ESL, sell hotels & womens teams to themselves and all the other Americanised bullshit they’ve been doing is so much better isn’t it. The premier league is a 4 team league (1 Abu Dhabi & 3 American) and the rest make up the numbers. Would be 4 American but Man Utd fucked it 

 

You're right, but I'm meaning them as well. PSR obviously doesn't work right with all the loopholes.

 

Do prefer the German model.

[Kimbo]

19 minutes ago, Froggy said:

 

It's not really my thing.  

 

I just don't like when people try and suggest we've no pull and that if it wasn't for money, there's no reason for a player to choose us over Newcastle. That's just absurd.

 

What I also disagree with is the suggestion that you don't have money and can't compete with the "cartel." Mbeumo has the same base wage as Anthony Gordon. I've no doubt you'd have offered him the same wage we did. 

Any wage we offered would be topped, that’s the position we’re in. Same goes for transfer fees. We can’t compete like that with the ESL clubs.

[Kid Icarus]

3/10 ragebait. Froggy knows Weghorst was after spending more than every other team in the league, multiple times over and failing every time.

 

 

Edited July 29, 2025 by Kid Icarus

[jonny1403]

8 minutes ago, Froggy said:

 

Certainly impacted us when we were fighting on all four fronts and all we could afford was Wout Weghorst on loan.  

 

Froggy, with respect, what tf are you talking about. You signed Weghorst on loan after a season in which you spent £82m on one of the worst signings in your history, another £60m on Casemiro, and another £50m on Martinez. Over £200m wasted on dreadful players.

 

'All you could afford' ffs 

[Froggy]

Just now, jonny1403 said:

 

Froggy, with respect, what tf are you talking about. You signed Weghorst on loan after a season in which you spent £82m on one of the worst signings in your history, another £60m on Casemiro, and another £50m on Martinez. Over £200m wasted on dreadful players.

 

'All you could afford' ffs 

 

You're missing the point. 

[jonny1403]

Just now, Froggy said:

 

You're missing the point. 

 

Explain it to me then. You knew you'd be fighting on four fronts at the start of the season but chose to spend £200m on four players who have all been a disaster. That's entirely on you. 

[Froggy]

1 minute ago, jonny1403 said:

 

Explain it to me then. You knew you'd be fighting on four fronts at the start of the season but chose to spend £200m on four players who have all been a disaster. That's entirely on you. 

 

1) We didn't know that at the start of the season.

2) Casemiro and Martinez have not been a disaster.

3) The point is that without PSR, we'd have just spent big on getting more reinforcements in. Not like the Glazer's would have cared about more debt.

[Kanj]

The rules limiting revenue growth, fair market value checks on bonafide third party sponsorships, restrictions on related party sponsorships, and a a 3 year loss floor that has not adjusted with rising wages in football are 5 reasons I would always oppose PSR, irrespective of who owns what clubs. All red tape to keep the same warlords ahead of the pack for some time. 

 

 

Edited July 29, 2025 by Kanj

[jonny1403]

Just now, Froggy said:

 

1) We didn't know that at the start of the season.

2) Casemiro and Martinez have not been a disaster.

3) The point is that without PSR, we'd have just spent big on getting more reinforcements in. Not like the Glazer's would have cared about more debt.

 

You spent £60m on Casemiro paying him £375k a week, despite  knowing the depth you would need for Europe. For that kind of outlay and knowing how it will impact the rest of your spending in a PSR environment, you expect a key player for years to come.

 

Instead you have a player who struggled to maintain a starting place after his first year and became a bit of a laughing stock in the media. That's entirely on you and a failure of transfer policy to prepare accordingly. 

 

Martinez has played in less than half of the games he could have been available for. Of course he's been a disaster.