ramirez Posted January 22 Share Posted January 22 We have a 100% record against English sides in Europe. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
timeEd32 Posted January 22 Share Posted January 22 Without a lot of upsets it seems like, barring a win in Paris, we're going to drop to ~14th. We get one of like Olympiacos / Galatasaray / Qarabag / Napoli / Monaco. And then Real Madrid or Liverpool. So much can change with just one or two results though. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TaylorJ_01 Posted January 22 Share Posted January 22 Let's just go and mash PSG, that's basically the solution Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Prophet Posted January 23 Share Posted January 23 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unbelievable Posted January 23 Share Posted January 23 (edited) Pretty sure they had us in the top five hardest schedules after the draw before a ball was kicked in anger..? Ah yes, that’s the table I was referring to. Edited January 23 by Unbelievable Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
r0cafella Posted January 23 Share Posted January 23 That's not the reason though is it? The delta between top and bottom is 3.1% if you put any weight in such chart. Pl clubs do well in Europe because they have the financial might upper mid tier clubs in other countries do not. Dheller91 is obviously a bit slow. 22 minutes ago, The Prophet said: Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nucasol Posted January 23 Share Posted January 23 24 minutes ago, The Prophet said: As opposed to his team playing 30 of their 34 league games against complete Euro trash farmer league cannon fodder allow them to exert minimum energy all season . Fuck Bayern Munich, fuck Rummenigge and fuck Harry Kane. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gazza ladra Posted January 23 Share Posted January 23 20 hours ago, Mike said: Is it legal to be black in Azerbaijan? Or brown in the US? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gazza ladra Posted January 23 Share Posted January 23 1 hour ago, Nucasol said: As opposed to his team playing 30 of their 34 league games against complete Euro trash farmer league cannon fodder allow them to exert minimum energy all season . Fuck Bayern Munich, fuck Rummenigge and fuck Harry Kane. PSV apparently didn't have clue how to handle being pressed from the front. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
54 Posted January 23 Share Posted January 23 On 21/01/2026 at 23:47, GideonShandy said: This site allows you to see how the final table would look after predicting the 8th round results. www.uefa.com/uefachampionsleague/simulator/ Assuming we lose to PSG, I got Galatasaray, Qarabag and Napoli as likely knockout opponents. I just did this and got this: Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yorkie Posted January 23 Share Posted January 23 1 hour ago, The Prophet said: Because they don't have to play each other. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
leffe186 Posted January 23 Share Posted January 23 (edited) 2 hours ago, The Prophet said: …because we can’t play each other. That immediately elevates everyone else’s difficulty significantly. PSG have the hardest schedule by PPG measures, and that’s at least in part because they had to face two PL teams - arguably the worst two. As for his team - Bayern Munich - we just played the team that’s second in their league and unbeaten in forever, and took them apart with 12 available first-teamers. There are two points here. One - we have artificially easier schedules because we can’t play other English teams, and two - we are all really good with a shit-ton of money. Regardless of the schedule we are going to do well. A Bayern Munich fan complaining about weak opposition is objectively hilarious. Edited January 23 by leffe186 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The College Dropout Posted January 23 Share Posted January 23 Aye it's that English teams can't play each other in the group stages. It may not have always been true. But now - the PL is by far the strongest league in the world overall. No other league comes close. Liverpool are 4th, Chelsea are 6th, we are 8th, Spurs are 14th in the PL - when we do win in the PL it's often by 1 or 2 goals. But in the CL when we win we are putting belt to arse. The Premier League is far harder than most CL teams. Big European teams like Bayern & PSG will start to benefit when they can rotate all their team in March to keep their best team rested and still win. PL teams can't do that. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yorkie Posted January 23 Share Posted January 23 The irony is that the brutality of the Premier League, and the sheer scale of application required to do well in that division, opens the door to the European teams (with much less grueling domestic schedules) to go the distance in the CL. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
HawK Posted January 23 Share Posted January 23 Our physical style is being caught up to in the PL, but we're still the best at being the team with big monsters who run for 90 minutes. Taking that style to Europe that we're so good at, is causing a lot of our opponents a big, big problem. Pace, size, stamina - we're literally running over the physically smaller, more technical teams. Joelinton particularly looks incredibly effective against these sorts of European teams. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteV Posted January 23 Share Posted January 23 We saying them soft forrins don’t like it up ‘em? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TaylorJ_01 Posted January 23 Share Posted January 23 37 minutes ago, HawK said: Our physical style is being caught up to in the PL, but we're still the best at being the team with big monsters who run for 90 minutes. Taking that style to Europe that we're so good at, is causing a lot of our opponents a big, big problem. Pace, size, stamina - we're literally running over the physically smaller, more technical teams. Joelinton particularly looks incredibly effective against these sorts of European teams. So true. Joelinton and Botman looked enormous next to their players. Even Wissa is heavier than that CB Gasiorowski, despite being quite a bit shorter. Weirdly our weakest player physically is probably also the tallest. Even Gordon and Barnes are fairly strong, or at least use their low centre of gravity well, for their size. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sibierski Posted January 23 Share Posted January 23 The only games I find hard to call are Spurs, Ajax, Juventus games so went with draws. Rest I've gone with wins (Inter draw) and heavily weighted towards who I could see scoring loads final day. This is with us losing 2-0 to PSG. Spoiler Us drawing Spoiler Us winning 2-1 Spoiler Essentially be looking at Brugge or Qarabag in KO round. Beat PSG, just to get PSG in L16 though would be Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mayubeproud Posted January 23 Share Posted January 23 Actually got a feeling that even if the Premier League is split into Northern England PL and Southern England PL, along with some teams from Championship getting promoted so each league would have 18-20 teams, both leagues would still have comparable or even marginally better quality than La Liga or Serie A. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sibierski Posted January 23 Share Posted January 23 Think I'd take Barcelona in KO round all day because of their high line. Probably most beatable big side and Rashford won't play as well again as he did that game (plus we will have a striker this time). Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anderson Posted January 23 Share Posted January 23 Just playing around with the result simulator, assuming PSG beat us, very good possibility we end up drawn with someone on 10 points, which assuming they don't pick up points next week would include Galatasaray and Qarabag. Marsielle again, Napoli and Olympiacos all right in the mix for the unseeded half of draw too. So basically Azerbajan or another set of radge cunts. Our best hope of a good trip would be managing to get paired up with Bilbao. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
timeEd32 Posted January 23 Share Posted January 23 32 minutes ago, Sibierski said: The only games I find hard to call are Spurs, Ajax, Juventus games so went with draws. Rest I've gone with wins (Inter draw) and heavily weighted towards who I could see scoring loads final day. This is with us losing 2-0 to PSG. Hide contents Us drawing Hide contents Us winning 2-1 Hide contents Essentially be looking at Brugge or Qarabag in KO round. Beat PSG, just to get PSG in L16 though would be Doing it yesterday I also came to the conclusion that there's little difference between drawing and losing (barring a crazy set of results). I must have been a bit more negative as I basically had us stuck in the 13-15 range, but the potential opponents from 11-14 aren't all that different. 15th has the downside of matching up with 1 or 2 in the R16. If we don't win in Paris then I just hope we get a reasonable playoff opponent and then may as well be RM in the knockouts. Something different and would rather play them than an English side or PSG again. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Optimistic Nut Posted January 23 Share Posted January 23 7 hours ago, The College Dropout said: Aye it's that English teams can't play each other in the group stages. It may not have always been true. But now - the PL is by far the strongest league in the world overall. No other league comes close. Liverpool are 4th, Chelsea are 6th, we are 8th, Spurs are 14th in the PL - when we do win in the PL it's often by 1 or 2 goals. But in the CL when we win we are putting belt to arse. The Premier League is far harder than most CL teams. Big European teams like Bayern & PSG will start to benefit when they can rotate all their team in March to keep their best team rested and still win. PL teams can't do that. Bayern & PSG definitely have the edge in terms of 100% being guaranteed a CL spot year after year so can grow their revenue to go with it. Of course being able to coast from around March like you say is a huge help. There are probably 2-3 English teams with the same benefit in terms of CL qualification year-on-year, but can't just switch off in the league like they can. Ourselves, Spurs, Chelsea, Villa, Man Utd could have brilliant seasons domestically and it still might not guarantee a top 5 spot. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rafalove Posted January 23 Share Posted January 23 Just seen PSG play tonight against Auxerre. Meaning they’ll have more rest and time to prepare than we do. Ofcourse as well as home advantage. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
timeEd32 Posted January 23 Share Posted January 23 7 minutes ago, Rafalove said: Just seen PSG play tonight against Auxerre. Meaning they’ll have more rest and time to prepare than we do. Ofcourse as well as home advantage. They could play Auxerre on Tuesday and I'm not sure it would trouble them too much. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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