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Wandy

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3 hours ago, manorpark said:

 

Leazes Terrace is FANTASTIC, in my opinion.

 

Not sure where they could move it to but if anyone could afford to do it our new owners could.

 

However, it would never get planning approval.

 

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If it could be proved that it could be moved, renovated and rebuilt further back as part of a completely redeveloped Leazes Park then I reckon planning approval could be given.

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30 minutes ago, Wandy said:

 

If it could be proved that it could be moved, renovated and rebuilt further back as part of a completely redeveloped Leazes Park then I reckon planning approval could be given.

Whether it could be proved or not it shouldn't be moved.   I've thought about this a few times over the years and swayed one way and the other.  But now I think we've lost too much of the decent stuff in the 'town' and if/when we look at redevelopment we should look at different options.

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Jackie Broon

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1 hour ago, Wandy said:

 

If it could be proved that it could be moved, renovated and rebuilt further back as part of a completely redeveloped Leazes Park then I reckon planning approval could be given.

 

And your reckoning is based on exactly what knowledge of the planning system?

 

If Leazes Terrace could somehow be relocated (which is pie in the sky in itself because, even it it were physically possible, and they could voluntarily or compulsorily purchase all the the individual properties, the cost would be astronomical) it would need to be pushed further into Leazes Park, which would harm the significance of the park (which is also listed). Moving the building would also inevitably impact on its significance, it would change both its setting and the setting of the park and would inevitably alter the fabric of the building. Also, it would involve the demolition of St James' Street, which is also listed. This would all also cause substantial harm to the significance of the Leazes conservation area.

 

There is no redevelopment of Leazes Park that could offset that, there was an extensive restoration of the park in the early 2000s.

 

It would result in at least substantial harm to the significance of Leazes Park, Leazes Terrace and the conservation area and complete loss of significance of the listed buildings on St. James' Street. Planning policy dictates that substantial harm or complete loss of a heritage asset an only be acceptable if it is necessary to achieve substantial public benefits that outweigh the harm caused. That just wouldn't be the case here. No chance, pie in the sky, end of story.

 

 

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Wandy

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4 minutes ago, Jackie Broon said:

 

And your reckoning is based on exactly what knowledge of the planning system?

 

If Leazes Terrace could somehow be relocated (which is pie in the sky in itself because, even it it were physically possible, and they could voluntarily or compulsorily purchase all the the individual properties, the cost would be astronomical) it would need to be pushed further into Leazes Park, which would harm the significance of the park (which is also listed). Moving the building would also inevitably impact on its significance, it would change both its setting and the setting of the park and would inevitably alter the fabric of the building. Also, it would involve the demolition of St James' Street, which is also listed. This would all also cause significant harm to the significance of the Leazes conservation area.

 

There is no redevelopment of Leazes Park that could offset that, there was an extensive restoration of the park in the early 2000s.

 

It would result in at least substantial harm to the significance of Leazes Park, Leazes Terrace and the conservation area and complete loss of significance of the listed buildings on St. James' Street. Planning policy dictates that such loss an only be acceptable if it is necessary to achieve substantial public benefits that outweigh the harm caused. That just wouldn't be the case here. No chance, pie in the sky, end of story.

 

Oh well. I guess we are moving away from the current SJP site then.

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Wandy

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33 minutes ago, Jackie Broon said:

 

Lets see what division we're in next season before worrying about that. It should still be possible to extend the Gallowgate.

 

Unless the current office block proposal gets scrapped, it isnt.

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Jackie Broon

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10 minutes ago, Wandy said:

 

Unless the current office block proposal gets scrapped, it isnt.

 

There would probably still be ways to extend the Gallowgate even if the Strawberry Place development goes ahead. Well, it's much more likely to be feasible than extending the east stand.

 

 

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Wandy

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11 minutes ago, Jackie Broon said:

 

There would probably still be ways to extend the Gallowgate even if the Strawberry Place development goes ahead. Well, it's much more likely to be feasible than extending the east stand.

 

 

 

 

There will be a dirty big building on Strawberry Place literally across the road from where the current Gallowgate End is. Its a nonsense that the Gallowgate can feasably extended with that there. And even if it could, the nature of the structure would make SJP's stands look even more mismatched. No thanks, if Level 7 cannot be extended to the Gallowgate then its a new stadium on a new site.

 

 

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