St James' Park

[Guest neesy111]

I don't think they are standardised, they just have to blend in with seat colours and club colours.

 

The main stand ones with PL banner at the top, sponsors on the bottom, and some inoffensive club design in centre seem to be at least.

 

Some do, but Watford had quite a few different designs for their game today.

[Dr.Spaceman]

Let's see what it looks like during the game at least. Could just be a shit picture.

[sbnufc]

 

[LRD]

Decent. Would have been Sports Direct banners all over if Ashley had his wishes.

[Stottie]

Sorry if Giggs, but I hope the dubbed-on crowd sound has the Ashley song at least twice each half.

[GWN]

Still managed to get SD on the lot, fucking grim , but I won’t be watching so m6 eyes won’t bleed .

[Yorkie]

Decent. Would have been Sports Direct banners all over if Ashley had his wishes.

 

That is exactly what he's got...

[WarrenBartonCentrePartin]

Big fan of the plan white one in the East Stand. A nice little nod to the fact we'll be surrendering at 2.01pm.

[LRD]

Decent. Would have been Sports Direct banners all over if Ashley had his wishes.

 

That is exactly what he's got...

 

Well, aye but still acceptable and not font size 6121 Sports Direct banners maximising all available space being an eyesore.

[TK-421]

Decent. Would have been Sports Direct banners all over if Ashley had his wishes.

 

That is exactly what he's got...

 

Well, aye but still acceptable and not font size 6121 Sports Direct banners maximising all available space being an eyesore.

 

Should there even be any more SD logos on those banners though? From what i've seen so far, most clubs only had their main shirt sponsor on the extra seat banners.

 

Of course, we aren't most clubs, and are still presently owned by a tw@t.

[LRD]

Decent. Would have been Sports Direct banners all over if Ashley had his wishes.

 

That is exactly what he's got...

 

Well, aye but still acceptable and not font size 6121 Sports Direct banners maximising all available space being an eyesore.

 

Should there even be any more SD logos on those banners though? From what i've seen so far, most clubs only had their main shirt sponsor on the extra seat banners.

 

Of course, we aren't most clubs, and are still presently owned by a tw@t.

 

Would guess that PL have their rules on advertising space allowed on the banners and MA had pushed to the limits already.

[henke]

What colour is the match ball at this time of year? There seems a shite load of white in them bed sheets that'll be right in the players field of vision when the balls in the air.

[NEEJ]

What colour is the match ball at this time of year? There seems a shite load of white in them bed sheets that'll be right in the players field of vision when the balls in the air.

White with a fair whack of orange. They'll be alright.

[Paully]

https://www.chroniclelive.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/newcastle-united-stadium-expansion-takeover-19417167.amp

[Wandy]

There's not a chance of the Gallowgate being mirrored up with the Leazes once this office block development is finished. That ship has sailed I'm afraid.

 

If the takeover goes through we will need to revisit the idea of building a new stadium on or behind Leazes Park if we want to properly and seriously expand.

[Matt]

There's not a chance of the Gallowgate being mirrored up with the Leazes once this office block development is finished.

 

Is it actually being built? The market for commercial real estate is on its arse. Whatever the use- retail, office, student housing- all have taken an absolute beating.

[Whitley mag]

There's not a chance of the Gallowgate being mirrored up with the Leazes once this office block development is finished.

 

Is it actually being built? The market for commercial real estate is on its arse. Whatever the use- retail, office, student housing- all have taken an absolute beating.

 

Yeah Radisson red hotel has been given go ahead.

 

I agree we will need to relocate and Castle Leazes is still the best and only city centre site now viable. I can’t see a problem with relocating to Castle Leazes, of course there’ll be nimbys but with Leazes Terrace opened up and St James used to create a new and usable park it could benefit the whole city.

[manorpark]

There's not a chance of the Gallowgate being mirrored up with the Leazes once this office block development is finished.

 

Is it actually being built? The market for commercial real estate is on its arse. Whatever the use- retail, office, student housing- all have taken an absolute beating.

 

Yeah Radisson red hotel has been given go ahead.

 

I agree we will need to relocate and Castle Leazes is still the best and only city centre site now viable.

 

I can’t see a problem with relocating to Castle Leazes, of course there’ll be nimbys but with Leazes Terrace opened up and St James used to create a new and usable park it could benefit the whole city.

 

This is eaxactly what the 1997 proposals were.

 

I wrote about all this back in 2010 . . .

 

https://www.skyscrapercity.com/threads/newcastle-and-the-north-east-as-it-might-have-been.1009531/post-53090947

[Whitley mag]

There's not a chance of the Gallowgate being mirrored up with the Leazes once this office block development is finished.

 

Is it actually being built? The market for commercial real estate is on its arse. Whatever the use- retail, office, student housing- all have taken an absolute beating.

 

Yeah Radisson red hotel has been given go ahead.

 

I agree we will need to relocate and Castle Leazes is still the best and only city centre site now viable.

 

I can’t see a problem with relocating to Castle Leazes, of course there’ll be nimbys but with Leazes Terrace opened up and St James used to create a new and usable park it could benefit the whole city.

 

This is eaxactly what the 1997 proposals were.

 

I wrote about all this back in 2010 . . .

 

https://www.skyscrapercity.com/threads/newcastle-and-the-north-east-as-it-might-have-been.1009531/post-53090947

 

How much improved is that artists impression of Leazes Terrace. What a shame that certain people within the city couldn’t see past the end of their own nose.

 

In reality their 36 thousand petition was a massive minority, there was even rumours at the time they collected signatures at joker park on match days.

 

When our takeover happens I would love PIF to revisit this and with their backing it could be even greater than Hall and Shepherd’s vision.

[Jackie Broon]

The petition didn't prevent that development from going ahead, John Hall withdrawing the application before it had run its course did.

 

Whether that was just him throwing his toys out of the pram or because there was a more fundamental issue, I don't know, but public objection alone does not prevent a development by a genuinely committed developer.

[Whitley mag]

The petition didn't prevent that development from going ahead, John Hall withdrawing the application before it had run its course did.

 

Whether that was just him throwing his toys out of the pram or because there was a more fundamental issue, I don't know, but public objection alone does not prevent a development by a genuinely committed developer.

 

Hall and Shepherd seen the pound signs and knew all the objections were going to lead to a lengthy public enquiry. He went for the quickest option and not the best in the long term in my opinion.

 

[Jackie Broon]

The petition didn't prevent that development from going ahead, John Hall withdrawing the application before it had run its course did.

 

Whether that was just him throwing his toys out of the pram or because there was a more fundamental issue, I don't know, but public objection alone does not prevent a development by a genuinely committed developer.

 

Hall and Shepherd seen the pound signs and knew all the objections were going to lead to a lengthy public enquiry. He went for the quickest option and not the best in the long term in my opinion.

 

 

There's no reason why they couldn't have pressed ahead with both the appeal and an application for the expansion of St James' Park at the same time. Planning Public Inquires aren't generally particularly lengthy or expensive in the grand scheme of things (unless it's something like Heathrow terminal 5). Generally they last a week or two and having thousands of objections is nothing unusual. That's assuming it would've definitively been refused, in my experience you can never know 100% what is going to happen at a council committee meeting.

 

The fact that it was withdrawn suggests to me that either they weren't fully committed to it in the first place or that there was a fundamental issue that they were advised would make it unlikely to have been successful at appeal. That wouldn't be down to public objections.

[Whitley mag]

The petition didn't prevent that development from going ahead, John Hall withdrawing the application before it had run its course did.

 

Whether that was just him throwing his toys out of the pram or because there was a more fundamental issue, I don't know, but public objection alone does not prevent a development by a genuinely committed developer.

 

Hall and Shepherd seen the pound signs and knew all the objections were going to lead to a lengthy public enquiry. He went for the quickest option and not the best in the long term in my opinion.

 

 

There's no reason why they couldn't have pressed ahead with both the appeal and an application for the expansion of St James' Park at the same time. Planning Public Inquires aren't generally particularly lengthy or expensive in the grand scheme of things (unless it's something like Heathrow terminal 5). Generally they last a week or two and having thousands of objections is nothing unusual. That's assuming it would've definitively been refused, in my experience you can never know 100% what is going to happen at a council committee meeting.

 

The fact that it was withdrawn suggests to me that either they weren't fully committed to it in the first place or that there was a fundamental issue that they were advised would make it unlikely to have been successful at appeal. That wouldn't be down to public objections.

 

I think the friends of Leazes Park had the likes of English Heritage involved, it would definitely have gone to government for a full public enquiry.

 

I just think it boiled down to economics in the end and they wanted the extra capacity in the quickest time frame possible.

 

Certainly would have been interesting had it been built, though like most new stadia built around that time it might now have looked dated in comparison to Spurs etc now.

[Jackie Broon]

The petition didn't prevent that development from going ahead, John Hall withdrawing the application before it had run its course did.

 

Whether that was just him throwing his toys out of the pram or because there was a more fundamental issue, I don't know, but public objection alone does not prevent a development by a genuinely committed developer.

 

Hall and Shepherd seen the pound signs and knew all the objections were going to lead to a lengthy public enquiry. He went for the quickest option and not the best in the long term in my opinion.

 

 

There's no reason why they couldn't have pressed ahead with both the appeal and an application for the expansion of St James' Park at the same time. Planning Public Inquires aren't generally particularly lengthy or expensive in the grand scheme of things (unless it's something like Heathrow terminal 5). Generally they last a week or two and having thousands of objections is nothing unusual. That's assuming it would've definitively been refused, in my experience you can never know 100% what is going to happen at a council committee meeting.

 

The fact that it was withdrawn suggests to me that either they weren't fully committed to it in the first place or that there was a fundamental issue that they were advised would make it unlikely to have been successful at appeal. That wouldn't be down to public objections.

 

I think the friends of Leazes Park had the likes of English Heritage involved, it would definitely have gone to government for a full public enquiry.

 

I just think it boiled down to economics in the end and they wanted the extra capacity in the quickest time frame possible.

 

Certainly would have been interesting had it been built, though like most new stadia built around that time it might now have looked dated in comparison to Spurs etc now.

 

No, it would have been a planning inquiry undertaken by the planning inspectorate, although that is an executive agency of government. It probably wouldn't have been an incredibly complex inquiry because the primary issue probably would have been heritage impact only, and large scale well organised public objection is not unusual at inquiries, ubiquitous even.

 

It is possible like you say they just wanted the extra capacity in the quickest time, but why not at least let the application run its course and see what happens? Why not twin-track an application for expansion with an appeal? Planning inquires are not that expensive, tens of thousands of pounds rather than hundreds of thousands usually, cost would not be likely to have been a significant obstacle

 

It's likely that English Heritage would have been a statutory consultee anyway, and they would not have been influenced by public objection to the development. Although, their objection is likely to have been a significant issue for its prospects at appeal. But my point is that the influence of public objections probably wasn't as significant as people make out.

[Whitley mag]

Yeah you may be right and the cost of the project put them off in the end. Though I think the stadium expansion cost was around 50 million, and the cost of the mackems new stadium was around 30 million around the same time or thereabouts. I certainly think our stadium would have cost more than the stadium of shite, but it certainly would have been a lot less than what a new stadium seems to cost these days.