UncleBingo Posted February 10, 2023 Share Posted February 10, 2023 20 minutes ago, Wandy said: It would be something to be proud of if it was in good condition, but it isnt. I agree about who is to blame for that though. Architecture is about the design and construction materials used in a building, and not the condition of something. I agree that some of the buildings need a clean.....you should have seen it in the 70's before they started the Grainger Town Restoration project. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wandy Posted February 10, 2023 Share Posted February 10, 2023 4 minutes ago, UncleBingo said: Architecture is about the design and construction materials used in a building, and not the condition of something. I agree that some of the buildings need a clean.....you should have seen it in the 70's before they started the Grainger Town Restoration project. Again, not disagreeing with that. But if something isnt done soon it wont be long before some of the buildings are looking like they did in the 70s. The city has a variety of nice archirecture but it needs some serious maintenance right now. The Tyne Bridge has been allowed to rot though so I'm not holding out much of hope of anything happening any time soon. Its not just the buildings though. The streets are covered in bedded-in white stains which I can only assume is bird shite or flattened chewing gum. Whatever it is though, its just minging and its something that I havent really noticed when visiting other city centres. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coffee_Johnny Posted February 10, 2023 Share Posted February 10, 2023 Grey Street (voted most attractive street in England not so long ago) and Grainger Town in general, along with Quayside and bridges are still something to be extremely proud of. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
loki679 Posted February 10, 2023 Share Posted February 10, 2023 Aye, no matter how much we all want to see SJP expanded or another option it'll never be worth ripping out the heritage of our city. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AJ9 Posted February 10, 2023 Share Posted February 10, 2023 5 minutes ago, Wandy said: Again, not disagreeing with that. But if something isnt done soon it wont be long before some of the buildings are looking like they did in the 70s. The city has a variety of nice archirecture but it needs some serious maintenance right now. The Tyne Bridge has been allowed to rot though so I'm not holding out much of hope of anything happening any time soon. Its not just the buildings though. The streets are covered in bedded-in white stains which I can only assume is bird shite or flattened chewing gum. Whatever it is though, its just minging and its something that I havent really noticed when visiting other city centres. was I reading the other day they’ve approved a renovation of the Tyne bridge? Think it was on the guardian? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wandy Posted February 10, 2023 Share Posted February 10, 2023 7 minutes ago, AJ9 said: was I reading the other day they’ve approved a renovation of the Tyne bridge? Think it was on the guardian? They have, but its been left rotting for so long that its going to take much more time, effort and money to fix it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
christ Posted February 10, 2023 Share Posted February 10, 2023 Just flatten everything north of Central Station and build a 500,000 seat sports dome. Only solution. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
number37 Posted February 10, 2023 Share Posted February 10, 2023 1 minute ago, christ said: Just flatten everything north of Central Station and build a 500,000 seat sports dome. Only solution. That's not a bad idea actually. Wall off the city and turn it into a massive game of that medieval football they have in Alnwick every year when it lasts all day and no one has scored a goal since the 1720s, which, considering our clean sheet record, wouldn't be much of a departure from the norm. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RobsonsWonderland Posted February 10, 2023 Share Posted February 10, 2023 If we have exhausted all options... Let's just build it on the Tyne. Whoever kicks the ball in has to get it! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Pups Posted February 10, 2023 Share Posted February 10, 2023 36 minutes ago, christ said: Just flatten everything north of Central Station and build a 500,000 seat sports dome. Only solution. you could include central station and move it brick by brick? no idea where to Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AJ9 Posted February 10, 2023 Share Posted February 10, 2023 30 minutes ago, RobsonsWonderland said: If we have exhausted all options... Let's just build it on the Tyne. Whoever kicks the ball in has to get it! Brink back the Tuxedo and stick the pitch and stands on there. Revolving dance floor/centre circle included Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheGuv Posted February 10, 2023 Share Posted February 10, 2023 There was one of those old BBC archive videos doing the rounds of a bloke who’s job at Shrewsbury (I think) was to row out to collect the ball which had gone over the stadium roof. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheGuv Posted February 10, 2023 Share Posted February 10, 2023 Here we go! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
manorpark Posted February 10, 2023 Share Posted February 10, 2023 3 hours ago, UncleBingo said: Architecture is about the design and construction materials used in a building, and not the condition of something. I agree that some of the buildings need a clean.....you should have seen it in the 70's before they started the Grainger Town Restoration project. That is just so 100% wrong. The massive stone cleaning of our beautiful City Centre buildings started in the mid-1960s and was largely completed by the mid to late 1970s, I followed all this very closely at the time. So, while our City Centre is very beautiful now, it was "sparkling new" beautiful in the mid-1970s !!! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
timeEd32 Posted February 10, 2023 Share Posted February 10, 2023 2 hours ago, Wandy said: Again, not disagreeing with that. But if something isnt done soon it wont be long before some of the buildings are looking like they did in the 70s. The city has a variety of nice archirecture but it needs some serious maintenance right now. The Tyne Bridge has been allowed to rot though so I'm not holding out much of hope of anything happening any time soon. Its not just the buildings though. The streets are covered in bedded-in white stains which I can only assume is bird shite or flattened chewing gum. Whatever it is though, its just minging and its something that I havent really noticed when visiting other city centres. I can't say one way or another as I haven't been in awhile, but people notice the flaws in the places we know best (our own house, our town/city, etc). I'll say this -- when I first came to Newcastle I came for a football club and to visit my cousin (in that order) and I left having fallen in love with an entire city. The same is true for my wife, who couldn't care less about the football club. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cookie1892 Posted February 10, 2023 Share Posted February 10, 2023 8 hours ago, JonBez comesock said: He mentions it , in his latest you tube video (st James park / strawberry place update) there seems to be quite a bit of space between the gallowgate and the road already if you factor theres a huuuuge walkway at the back of the gallowgate stand already on top of shearers etc Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whitley mag Posted February 10, 2023 Share Posted February 10, 2023 I’ve got great reservations about sweeping the current structure around to the Gallowgate end in its current guise, the Leazes isn’t conducive to creating any atmosphere in its current layout. I think they’re going to surprise folk here and try and build it from scratch again just NW of SJP’s current footprint. The East Stand just isn’t in keeping with what they’ll have in mind long term and I’m not convinced they can do anything with it either that’ll represent value for money. They’ll have plans for Strawberry Place but it’ll not end up being the Gallowgate extension. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris_R Posted February 10, 2023 Share Posted February 10, 2023 5 hours ago, RobsonsWonderland said: If we have exhausted all options... Let's just build it on the Tyne. Whoever kicks the ball in has to get it! Thankfully we've already played Forest at home. If Chris Wood recreated his Sheff Wed chance on that pitch, he'd have to swim 5 miles out to sea. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AJ9 Posted February 10, 2023 Share Posted February 10, 2023 25 minutes ago, Whitley mag said: I’ve got great reservations about sweeping the current structure around to the Gallowgate end in its current guise, the Leazes isn’t conducive to creating any atmosphere in its current layout. I think they’re going to surprise folk here and try and build it from scratch again just NW of SJP’s current footprint. The East Stand just isn’t in keeping with what they’ll have in mind long term and I’m not convinced they can do anything with it either that’ll represent value for money. They’ll have plans for Strawberry Place but it’ll not end up being the Gallowgate extension. Think so too. Be interesting to see what happens. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
GWN Posted February 10, 2023 Share Posted February 10, 2023 Build it on top of the metro station , we need a reset like Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
timeEd32 Posted February 10, 2023 Share Posted February 10, 2023 30 minutes ago, Whitley mag said: I’ve got great reservations about sweeping the current structure around to the Gallowgate end in its current guise, the Leazes isn’t conducive to creating any atmosphere in its current layout. I think they’re going to surprise folk here and try and build it from scratch again just NW of SJP’s current footprint. The East Stand just isn’t in keeping with what they’ll have in mind long term and I’m not convinced they can do anything with it either that’ll represent value for money. They’ll have plans for Strawberry Place but it’ll not end up being the Gallowgate extension. I agree I think there may be a big surprise, but I'm not sure how moving it slightly NW would help due to St. James Terrace. Unless you mean moving into the park? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wandy Posted February 10, 2023 Share Posted February 10, 2023 24 minutes ago, Whitley mag said: I’ve got great reservations about sweeping the current structure around to the Gallowgate end in its current guise, the Leazes isn’t conducive to creating any atmosphere in its current layout. I think they’re going to surprise folk here and try and build it from scratch again just NW of SJP’s current footprint. The East Stand just isn’t in keeping with what they’ll have in mind long term and I’m not convinced they can do anything with it either that’ll represent value for money. They’ll have plans for Strawberry Place but it’ll not end up being the Gallowgate extension. Interesting thoughts, and yeah I agree about the accoustics problem of taking the current Gallowgate roof off and replacing it with Level 7 one, which is why I've stressed how important it is to make the Gallowgate a safe standing Kop end if they do simply extend the current design. I would be amazed if they did completely build a new stadium more or less on the current footprint but I'd certainly welcome it if it gets rid of the East Stand problem. The real issue here is that they could spend £500m on extending the Gallowgate and coming up with a compromised solution for the East Stand, taking capacity to the low/mid 60K capacity...only for the club to even outgrow that within 5 or 6 years and they need to go back to thinking of building a new stadium again. A new build would probably cost £1.5b+ so maybe they are thinking long term? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
wyn davies Posted February 10, 2023 Share Posted February 10, 2023 One thing that comes to mind is the fact that in July the CAZ comes into full effect and how it could effect attendances as I'm pretty sure that quite a few travel by car to the game, and the buses and metro couldn't cope , when I think back to the 60s and 70s as a boy and it was a nightmare, then the question being is it economical to expand the ground . Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stifler Posted February 10, 2023 Share Posted February 10, 2023 14 minutes ago, wyn davies said: One thing that comes to mind is the fact that in July the CAZ comes into full effect and how it could effect attendances as I'm pretty sure that quite a few travel by car to the game, and the buses and metro couldn't cope , when I think back to the 60s and 70s as a boy and it was a nightmare, then the question being is it economical to expand the ground . It came into effect at the end of January and doesn’t apply to personal use vehicles, and only applies to commercial vehicles (including taxi’s) that do not comply with Euro 6 emissions. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whitley mag Posted February 10, 2023 Share Posted February 10, 2023 (edited) 27 minutes ago, timeEd32 said: I agree I think there may be a big surprise, but I'm not sure how moving it slightly NW would help due to St. James Terrace. Unless you mean moving into the park? Slight intrusion into the park where current multi story car park is towards Barrack Road. Not sure how much into park they would need to go, but looks plenty of land to nudge it away from Leazes Terrace. If I’m not mistaken Spurs built a good proportion of new stadium before having to bulldoze White Hart Lane. Looks a hard one to do without closing SJP for a couple of years but who knows what’s possible. Edited February 10, 2023 by Whitley mag Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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