WarrenBartonCentrePartin Posted February 17, 2011 Share Posted February 17, 2011 If MA can sting Liverpool for another £20m he'll cash in. Its a shame Jose has had his head turned but if the price is right, I've no doubt we'll sell. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beren Posted February 17, 2011 Share Posted February 17, 2011 To reiterate with what others have said, I'm not sure if those quotes have been fabricated, been translated unfavourably, taken out of context or represent the truth of what Enrique meant... ...but if they do mean he wants out in the near future, in an optimistic world where I was chairman, my plan of action would be to make him play out the remaining 18 months of his contract, even if that does mean he leaves on a free. In that world, we would get a full season out of him, we would invest heavily in the summer (35m + a bit extra), and the return of Ben Arfa would signal a strong push for European football (added to the impressing side we've already got). We'd also get a decent back-up left back. In those 18 months, we should still treat him well and try to encourage him to stay/commit contractually. If he became overly-mardy.. or disinterested in the game (angling for a move, basically)... make him play week-in, week-out for the reserves until his attitude improved. It's true we'd lose out on a transfer fee, but player power has to be addressed and confronted at some point IMO. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
colinmk Posted February 17, 2011 Share Posted February 17, 2011 Suddenly you are doing well and it's time to fuck of, then fuck of tbh Sell him in the summer, £20m and then invest the money in a hungry loyal 20 year old instead. then wait for 3 years for him to develop into a great player and sell him for 20m? Fun game this one. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Roger Kint Posted February 17, 2011 Share Posted February 17, 2011 Theres no way on earth he will let Jose see out his contract, to be honest i would be pretty disappointed if he did as a fee of about £10m cant be thrown away by a club like us. If he wants to test himself at a higher level then so be it, to do so here would take years if at all(even with an owner who splashed the cash) and now is the perfect time for him in terms of form and low contract. Sad to see him go but thats life outside the big 4, nothing to do with ambition or Ashley this time. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Weezertron Posted February 17, 2011 Share Posted February 17, 2011 Enjoyed his time here. He's an unreal player and could play for any club. The fact we've kept him for this long surprises me. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skirge Posted February 17, 2011 Share Posted February 17, 2011 Wonder of this seem to be extra effort he is putting in is not for our but his own benefit. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
traeir Posted February 17, 2011 Share Posted February 17, 2011 To reiterate with what others have said, I'm not sure if those quotes have been fabricated, been translated unfavourably, taken out of context or represent the truth of what Enrique meant... ...but if they do mean he wants out in the near future, in an optimistic world where I was chairman, my plan of action would be to make him play out the remaining 18 months of his contract, even if that does mean he leaves on a free. In that world, we would get a full season out of him, we would invest heavily in the summer (35m + a bit extra), and the return of Ben Arfa would signal a strong push for European football (added to the impressing side we've already got). We'd also get a decent back-up left back. In those 18 months, we should still treat him well and try to encourage him to stay/commit contractually. If he became overly-mardy.. or disinterested in the game (angling for a move, basically)... make him play week-in, week-out for the reserves until his attitude improved. It's true we'd lose out on a transfer fee, but player power has to be addressed and confronted at some point IMO. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fenham Mag Posted February 17, 2011 Share Posted February 17, 2011 Once again kenny is pillageing this club of our best players. Wouldnt be surprised if he offered Paul Fucking konchesky as a incentive. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
WarrenBartonCentrePartin Posted February 17, 2011 Share Posted February 17, 2011 I've got no issue with him having ambition. He's got talent and could play for a CL team. For the time being though I'd like us to convince him we're on the up, however I can't see it happening and selling Carroll was hardly a great example to the rest of the squad. Its seeing him playing for another PL team that will hurt, if he went back to Spain it wouldn't be half as bad. What would be a real kick in the knackers is if as those quotes suggest, he'd have his head turned by a move to Aston fucking Villa. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Posted February 17, 2011 Share Posted February 17, 2011 It's a good job we've got adequate backup at left back btw, in case he does leave. Oh. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted February 17, 2011 Share Posted February 17, 2011 To reiterate with what others have said, I'm not sure if those quotes have been fabricated, been translated unfavourably, taken out of context or represent the truth of what Enrique meant... ...but if they do mean he wants out in the near future, in an optimistic world where I was chairman, my plan of action would be to make him play out the remaining 18 months of his contract, even if that does mean he leaves on a free. In that world, we would get a full season out of him, we would invest heavily in the summer (35m + a bit extra), and the return of Ben Arfa would signal a strong push for European football (added to the impressing side we've already got). We'd also get a decent back-up left back. In those 18 months, we should still treat him well and try to encourage him to stay/commit contractually. If he became overly-mardy.. or disinterested in the game (angling for a move, basically)... make him play week-in, week-out for the reserves until his attitude improved. It's true we'd lose out on a transfer fee, but player power has to be addressed and confronted at some point IMO. I would do this too, if we qualify for the Europa League or generally look like a better team in that time, he might decide to stay. Not that it will ever happen in real life, the club will be too concerned with getting maximum value for him if he wants out. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
WarrenBartonCentrePartin Posted February 17, 2011 Share Posted February 17, 2011 It's a good job we've got adequate backup at left back btw, in case he does leave. Oh. MA is currently playing FM with Simpson at LB and Perch RB thinking 'we can afford to sell him, look!' Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Posted February 17, 2011 Share Posted February 17, 2011 PS: I can remember Keegan mentioning the need to bring in cover at left back in pre-season. Pre-season 2008. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Roger Kint Posted February 17, 2011 Share Posted February 17, 2011 IIRC Keegan started that season with N'Zogbia at LB, not sure if it was choice or Jose injury though. Madness there wasnt a proper backup brought in then. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Geordie Posted February 17, 2011 Share Posted February 17, 2011 Disappointing if he goes in the summer, but to me it points to some of the players realizing that there is a lack of ambition from Ashley and if that's the case, then why should they stick around under the current regime? Jose has done his bit for us - stuck around when we got relegated and has been great since we came back up. I wouldn't blame him for leaving if there is no desire to push on. Back to the days of Westwood and McKeag, IMO. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Posted February 17, 2011 Share Posted February 17, 2011 IIRC Keegan started that season with N'Zogbia at LB, not sure if it was choice or Jose injury though. Madness there wasnt a proper backup brought in then. Aye, I might be wrong in saying 'cover for Enrique'. He definitely went on about cover at left back though, I can remember it clearly from an interview after one of the games. Might have been Doncaster. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
UV Posted February 17, 2011 Share Posted February 17, 2011 I wonder how many points we'll need before we are considered 'safe' enough for the proper planning of next season (including opening contract negotiations with these players) can begin. http://www.guardian.co.uk/football/2010/apr/08/chris-hughton-newcastle-premier-league Chris Hughton is confident that Newcastle United will reap the rewards of an early promotion back to the Premier League in the transfer market, with the manager believing he has gained a crucial advantage in planning for next season. Newcastle have been promoted with five games to spare in the Championship and, despite Hughton's attempts to keep the focus on securing the Championship title, he has already begun to look at what needs to be done to ensure the club have the best chance of surviving in the top flight. 8/4/10 to 16/8/10 = 3 players signed before the season started, 2 frees and one for £2m? None of them signed as starters, one of whom was unfit for a month and one who would be injured for the majority of the season. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Prophet Posted February 17, 2011 Share Posted February 17, 2011 Interesting that no other source is carrying the quotes either. I'm cautiously optimstic about this one, probably because I want to be. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Roger Kint Posted February 17, 2011 Share Posted February 17, 2011 IIRC Keegan started that season with N'Zogbia at LB, not sure if it was choice or Jose injury though. Madness there wasnt a proper backup brought in then. Aye, I might be wrong in saying 'cover for Enrique'. He definitely went on about cover at left back though, I can remember it clearly from an interview after one of the games. Might have been Doncaster. I agree i remember it too, might have been an interview at the end of the 07/08 season but 'we only have one LB here' certainly rings a bell like you say. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Posted February 17, 2011 Share Posted February 17, 2011 I wonder how many points we'll need before we are considered 'safe' enough for the proper planning of next season (including opening contract negotiations with these players) can begin. http://www.guardian.co.uk/football/2010/apr/08/chris-hughton-newcastle-premier-league Chris Hughton is confident that Newcastle United will reap the rewards of an early promotion back to the Premier League in the transfer market, with the manager believing he has gained a crucial advantage in planning for next season. Newcastle have been promoted with five games to spare in the Championship and, despite Hughton's attempts to keep the focus on securing the Championship title, he has already begun to look at what needs to be done to ensure the club have the best chance of surviving in the top flight. 8/4/10 to 16/8/10 = 3 players signed before the season started, 2 frees and one for £2m? None of them signed as starters, one of whom was unfit for a month and one who would be injured for the majority of the season. Touché. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr.Spaceman Posted February 17, 2011 Share Posted February 17, 2011 Need Enrique to come out and say something on camera. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LesPaul Posted February 17, 2011 Share Posted February 17, 2011 I'd be ok with selling him to anyone of the NEW big 4 (that mean city and not the scousers). They are on a much higher level to us and capelable of CL football. If he went to anyone else I'd feel he was nothing more than a money grabbing cunt. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dinho lad Posted February 17, 2011 Share Posted February 17, 2011 At the end of the day, Enrique has previously stated that he joined us because he expected CL football. It's irritating that he sees Villa as a possible destination (if the quotes are true), but at least they are showing ambition with signing like Bent and Makoun. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
High Five o Posted February 17, 2011 Share Posted February 17, 2011 At the end of the day, Enrique has previously stated that he joined us because he expected CL football. It's irritating that he sees Villa as a possible destination (if the quotes are true), but at least they are showing ambition with signing like Bent and Makoun. Its crazy to think how much ground we lost in the january window, due to lack of ambition. It starting to show now, best players wants away. We have to buy some good players early in the summer window to stop this effect. Wait to long, and we lose the best players.... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Stephen927 Posted February 17, 2011 Share Posted February 17, 2011 He expected Champions League football when he came here, it didn't work out and he ended up staying here and putting in great shifts no matter what league we have been in. I don't begrudge him a move as he is a top, top player, and has shown this club a lot of respect through his commitment and attitude. The owner will not allow this club to progress to match the ambitions of our better players, they'll likely all want to leave rather than be part of a safe team with no desire to improve beyond. My only concern is he will likely be replaced with someone like Paul Konchesky. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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