Guest Roger Kint Posted February 19, 2011 Share Posted February 19, 2011 Been posted a few times already. Including a translation from a Spanish speaker. I think Jose's clutching at straws a bit tbh. Sure, the English press made what he said sound a bit worse (shock, horror) but he wasn't particularly misquoted IMO. Totally agree tbh he is using the fact that the majority of fans wont have read the full version. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest toonarmymia Posted February 19, 2011 Share Posted February 19, 2011 Been posted a few times already. Including a translation from a Spanish speaker. I think Jose's clutching at straws a bit tbh. Sure, the English press made what he said sound a bit worse (shock, horror) but he wasn't particularly misquoted IMO. ungrateful kernts ;-) however, the headline of “Enrique: Get Me Out of Toon” and the quote "'I’m OK at Newcastle but I aspire to more' are bollocks not saying he does/doesnt want to leave, just helps if they quote in correct context / translation however, the club probably shat themselves when they realised he'd given an interview without their knowing (like the twitter thing) Totally agree tbh he is using the fact that the majority of fans wont have read the full version. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
madras Posted February 19, 2011 Share Posted February 19, 2011 the position is exactly the same as even before the maqrca story. he'll leave if he gets a better offer from a team more likely to be challenging for honours. if we strengthen in the summer and the offer from others isn't forthcoming then theres a good chance he'll stay. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Roger Kint Posted February 19, 2011 Share Posted February 19, 2011 ungrateful kernts ;-) however, the headline of “Enrique: Get Me Out of Toon” and the quote "'I’m OK at Newcastle but I aspire to more' are bollocks not saying he does/doesnt want to leave, just helps if they quote in correct context / translation however, the club probably shat themselves when they realised he'd given an interview without their knowing (like the twitter thing) Clearing up that, the thread title is hardly a signifigant change to what he said is it? There are hundreds of things in my life that are OK but i still aspire to more, its human nature ffs(dont tell wor lass mind.......) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
madras Posted February 19, 2011 Share Posted February 19, 2011 ungrateful kernts ;-) however, the headline of “Enrique: Get Me Out of Toon” and the quote "'I’m OK at Newcastle but I aspire to more' are bollocks not saying he does/doesnt want to leave, just helps if they quote in correct context / translation however, the club probably shat themselves when they realised he'd given an interview without their knowing (like the twitter thing) Clearing up that, the thread title is hardly a signifigant change to what he said is it? There are hundreds of things in my life that are OK but i still aspire to more, its human nature ffs(dont tell wor lass mind.......) yeah cos your the pinnacle of achievment for her ? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest toonarmymia Posted February 19, 2011 Share Posted February 19, 2011 ungrateful kernts ;-) however, the headline of “Enrique: Get Me Out of Toon” and the quote "'I’m OK at Newcastle but I aspire to more' are bollocks not saying he does/doesnt want to leave, just helps if they quote in correct context / translation however, the club probably shat themselves when they realised he'd given an interview without their knowing (like the twitter thing) Clearing up that, the thread title is hardly a signifigant change to what he said is it? There are hundreds of things in my life that are OK but i still aspire to more, its human nature ffs(dont tell wor lass mind.......) ungrateful kernts ;-) however, the headline of “Enrique: Get Me Out of Toon” and the quote "'I’m OK at Newcastle but I aspire to more' are bollocks not saying he does/doesnt want to leave, just helps if they quote in correct context / translation however, the club probably shat themselves when they realised he'd given an interview without their knowing (like the twitter thing) Clearing up that, the thread title is hardly a signifigant change to what he said is it? There are hundreds of things in my life that are OK but i still aspire to more, its human nature ffs(dont tell wor lass mind.......) I suppose not, but the Sun headline is bollocks as always. typical tabloid pasting quotes around to fit context. wouldnt be surprised with him leaving in summer and wouldnt blame him either. at least he stuck with us for last two season when we really needed him Mums the word as far as your lass goes.... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Roger Kint Posted February 19, 2011 Share Posted February 19, 2011 ungrateful kernts ;-) however, the headline of “Enrique: Get Me Out of Toon” and the quote "'I’m OK at Newcastle but I aspire to more' are bollocks not saying he does/doesnt want to leave, just helps if they quote in correct context / translation however, the club probably shat themselves when they realised he'd given an interview without their knowing (like the twitter thing) Clearing up that, the thread title is hardly a signifigant change to what he said is it? There are hundreds of things in my life that are OK but i still aspire to more, its human nature ffs(dont tell wor lass mind.......) yeah cos your the pinnacle of achievment for her ? Of course not, but while Cheryl Cole draws breath........ Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest toonarmymia Posted February 19, 2011 Share Posted February 19, 2011 ungrateful kernts ;-) however, the headline of “Enrique: Get Me Out of Toon” and the quote "'I’m OK at Newcastle but I aspire to more' are bollocks not saying he does/doesnt want to leave, just helps if they quote in correct context / translation however, the club probably shat themselves when they realised he'd given an interview without their knowing (like the twitter thing) Clearing up that, the thread title is hardly a signifigant change to what he said is it? There are hundreds of things in my life that are OK but i still aspire to more, its human nature ffs(dont tell wor lass mind.......) yeah cos your the pinnacle of achievment for her ? Of course not, but while Cheryl Cole draws breath........ Roger Kint's Lass "Get me out of this Toon" Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
STM Posted February 19, 2011 Share Posted February 19, 2011 The issue isn't about whther Jose's happy here, of course he is, he's playing every week in the premiership, on big money and he's adored by the fans. Nor is the issue about whether he aspire's for more. Again, of course he aspire's for more, don't we all? The real question is whether this "aspiration" is big enough for him to want to leave and i'm sure their will be some juicy offers for him in the summer. Again it's down to the club to convince a player that we match his ambitions. We all have serious doubts about this regime, clearly Jose does too. The owners haven't got to simply convince the fans but the players too. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
madras Posted February 19, 2011 Share Posted February 19, 2011 The issue isn't about whther Jose's happy here, of course he is, he's playing every week in the premiership, on big money and he's adored by the fans. Nor is the issue about whether he aspire's for more. Again, of course he aspire's for more, don't we all? The real question is whether this "aspiration" is big enough for him to want to leave and i'm sure their will be some juicy offers for him in the summer. Again it's down to the club to convince a player that we match his ambitions. We all have serious doubts about this regime, clearly Jose does too. The owners haven't got to simply convince the fans but the players too. how do we convince that we will be in the champs league in a seasons time ? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mick Posted February 19, 2011 Share Posted February 19, 2011 The issue isn't about whther Jose's happy here, of course he is, he's playing every week in the premiership, on big money and he's adored by the fans. Nor is the issue about whether he aspire's for more. Again, of course he aspire's for more, don't we all? The real question is whether this "aspiration" is big enough for him to want to leave and i'm sure their will be some juicy offers for him in the summer. Again it's down to the club to convince a player that we match his ambitions. We all have serious doubts about this regime, clearly Jose does too. The owners haven't got to simply convince the fans but the players too. Agreed, good post. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mick Posted February 19, 2011 Share Posted February 19, 2011 how do we convince that we will be in the champs league in a seasons time ? We don't have to convince him that we'll be in the Champions Leauge in a seasons time, we need to convince him and the other good players that we have ambition. If they are happy here and think we're going places then they'll stop rather than risking going somewhere where they might be happy. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
STM Posted February 19, 2011 Share Posted February 19, 2011 The issue isn't about whther Jose's happy here, of course he is, he's playing every week in the premiership, on big money and he's adored by the fans. Nor is the issue about whether he aspire's for more. Again, of course he aspire's for more, don't we all? The real question is whether this "aspiration" is big enough for him to want to leave and i'm sure their will be some juicy offers for him in the summer. Again it's down to the club to convince a player that we match his ambitions. We all have serious doubts about this regime, clearly Jose does too. The owners haven't got to simply convince the fans but the players too. how do we convince that we will be in the champs league in a seasons time ? His aims, like most footballers, will be too play in the champions league, win trophies and play for their national team. That's no shock and we want players like that. How do we convince him? The same way every other club does.. sign better players, spend more money, show more ambition. I'm not cliaiming it to be easy, nor realistic but we have to at least be seen to be doing the right things. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
madras Posted February 19, 2011 Share Posted February 19, 2011 how do we convince that we will be in the champs league in a seasons time ? We don't have to convince him that we'll be in the Champions Leauge in a seasons time, we need to convince him and the other good players that we have ambition. If they are happy here and think we're going places then they'll stop rather than risking going somewhere where they might be happy. i'd doubt he'd stay if the ambition was to reach the europa, it has to be champs league and i'm not sure how we can realistically convince him of that. we could convince him we are headed in a better direction by making good signings in the summer. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
madras Posted February 19, 2011 Share Posted February 19, 2011 The issue isn't about whther Jose's happy here, of course he is, he's playing every week in the premiership, on big money and he's adored by the fans. Nor is the issue about whether he aspire's for more. Again, of course he aspire's for more, don't we all? The real question is whether this "aspiration" is big enough for him to want to leave and i'm sure their will be some juicy offers for him in the summer. Again it's down to the club to convince a player that we match his ambitions. We all have serious doubts about this regime, clearly Jose does too. The owners haven't got to simply convince the fans but the players too. how do we convince that we will be in the champs league in a seasons time ? His aims, like most footballers, will be too play in the champions league, win trophies and play for their national team. That's no shock and we want players like that. How do we convince him? The same way every other club does.. sign better players, spend more money, show more ambition. I'm not cliaiming it to be easy, nor realistic but we have to at least be seen to be doing the right things. more money ? does that include more debt to ashley or spend everything we bring in. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mick Posted February 19, 2011 Share Posted February 19, 2011 i'd doubt he'd stay if the ambition was to reach the europa, it has to be champs league and i'm not sure how we can realistically convince him of that. we could convince him we are headed in a better direction by making good signings in the summer. One of the names mentioned was Villa, they have less chance than us of reaching Europe. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
madras Posted February 19, 2011 Share Posted February 19, 2011 i'd doubt he'd stay if the ambition was to reach the europa, it has to be champs league and i'm not sure how we can realistically convince him of that. we could convince him we are headed in a better direction by making good signings in the summer. One of the names mentioned was Villa, they have less chance than us of reaching Europe. thats why i'd very much doubt he'd actually go there unless they continue the bent like spending. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jdckelly Posted February 19, 2011 Share Posted February 19, 2011 i'd doubt he'd stay if the ambition was to reach the europa, it has to be champs league and i'm not sure how we can realistically convince him of that. we could convince him we are headed in a better direction by making good signings in the summer. One of the names mentioned was Villa, they have less chance than us of reaching Europe. its surprising how much difference oversized wages can make Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldtype Posted February 19, 2011 Share Posted February 19, 2011 I don't see how we realistically convince Enrique that we'll be playing in the Champions League before the end of his career period. It's a matter of whether we can get him to stay an extra season or two. With his abilities he's inevitably going to have to move on at some point and I guess that's why I'm not suicidal about the idea of him leaving this summer. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRon Posted February 19, 2011 Share Posted February 19, 2011 how do we convince that we will be in the champs league in a seasons time ? We don't have to convince him that we'll be in the Champions Leauge in a seasons time, we need to convince him and the other good players that we have ambition. If they are happy here and think we're going places then they'll stop rather than risking going somewhere where they might be happy. i'd doubt he'd stay if the ambition was to reach the europa, it has to be champs league and i'm not sure how we can realistically convince him of that. we could convince him we are headed in a better direction by making good signings in the summer. I am fairly confident if we showed that we were going to spend the Carroll money on quality players and we mean to have a serious assault on Europe next season, most of our players including Enrique would want to be part of it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Benwell Lad Posted February 19, 2011 Share Posted February 19, 2011 how do we convince that we will be in the champs league in a seasons time ? We don't have to convince him that we'll be in the Champions Leauge in a seasons time, we need to convince him and the other good players that we have ambition. If they are happy here and think we're going places then they'll stop rather than risking going somewhere where they might be happy. i'd doubt he'd stay if the ambition was to reach the europa, it has to be champs league and i'm not sure how we can realistically convince him of that. we could convince him we are headed in a better direction by making good signings in the summer. I am fairly confident if we showed that we were going to spend the Carroll money on quality players and we mean to have a serious assault on Europe next season, most of our players including Enrique would want to be part of it. At risk of being called a "delusional Newcastle fan" we're only a bit of bad luck and a few injuries away from achieving that in our first season back in the big league. Money well spent and strong management could see us getting there next season. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest BooBoo Posted February 19, 2011 Share Posted February 19, 2011 Call me cynical but could it not be the case that Jose realises now he can double his money at another club rather than having to sign a new deal on a potentially lower weekly wage? In practice very few players are going to sign deals on lower money when they realise there's a queue of other clubs who would gladly throw a bit of extra cash their way. The idea of "aspiring to more" is just a smokescreen most of the time for wanting more money. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thespence Posted February 19, 2011 Share Posted February 19, 2011 Call me cynical but could it not be the case that Jose realises now he can double his money at another club More than likely but after AC got portrayed as a money grabbing c*** its better to say you want CL football than ask for the going rate. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Village Idiot Posted February 19, 2011 Share Posted February 19, 2011 How much is José Enrique (supposedly) on? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Posted February 19, 2011 Share Posted February 19, 2011 How much is José Enrique (supposedly) on? £35k Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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