Dokko

I think your points are debatable, certainly not laughable. I do think Ronaldo is more consistent and and refined, but he is older. Messi is really injury prone and is already a player who you cannot rely on or build a team around. Not sure about commercial, but again reckon the twat has the edge, and a move like this would generate mass hype. As for players i think the clubs are the attraction rather than certain individuals (at this level) and even though Messi has the better given talent, but he possibly hasn't done as much with it compared to Ronaldo who's contribution really did help Manu win the double this season.

SAF will want better than Owen. He's far to one dimensional for Manu.

Zenit St Petersburg coach Dick Advocaat has confirmed that Andrei Arshavin wants to leave the club. The Russian star had a brilliant domestic campaign last season helping Zenit to the league title and Uefa Cup. Arshavin only added to his reputation when he starred in Russia's final Euro 2008 group game - after being suspended for start of the tournament - against Sweden as scored the winner in the 2-0 triumph. The 27-year-old is being tracked by clubs from Italy, Spain, France, Germany and England - with the likes of Newcastle, Manchester City, Everton and more recently Arsenal said to be interested. Now Advocaat has confirmed that Arshavin want to move to one of Europe's biggest leagues. "Andrei has told us that he wishes to change clubs," Advocaat told reporters on Friday. "At present, in the way of offers, it is quiet. "The situation may well change after the game against Holland for the national side."

"I know Everton are interested and that Newcastle could soon make a move," he continued. Oh fuk, Newcastle almost about to do something, brace yourselves...and he's gone.

Thanks again to the Turks for another entertaining as fuk end to a football game. Germany Vs Turkey is going to be a classic, imaging the celebration from the Turks based in Germany if they won? Shame to see violence spill out after the match looked serious enough and if that were England our place in the Semi's would be on dodgy ground. But its the Turks, the can stab shoot and punch anyone the please.

His eccentricity has made him more famous than he actually is. Very average keeper at best.

I think he's got a good chance of doing well enough for them.

Snieder, Ramos & Robinho for Ronaldo. (not an actual bid, just something i think would push a quick sale) £75m of talent, Manu might as well go for it.

Kev man Clueless.

People need to cheer up, this negativity is killing me.

Interested this time round for 20 days but no concrete offers. Well done.

May have been when Depor signed him as they paid that I think. No it was when they were in trouble financially

mackems.gif Fat cunt 'withdraws' his application for the Blackburn job. Doesn't even need saying but he knew a manager with minimum experience is ahead of him and its withdrawn to save his pride. What a wanker.

Is there any Big Mike quotes in there or is it just paper spew; nice smelling spew for a change?

Fair nuff

What's that heading and leadership? Where you from Kimbo?

http://cache.daylife.com/imageserve/0dIW11X0NqcUm/610x.jpg Stunning.. She blatantly fancies Hitzlsperger though.

Good match mind. Pleat you tit.

ha ha ha ha ha ha ha! Forever a TV pundit now. Well paid (by us) TV pundit, alongside Souness the equally well paid (by us) TV pundit. He won't drop down, and the clubs he would demand won't accept his style and his demands. Would clubs threatened with relegation even take a chance on him once the seasons sackings are underway?

Here's a tip for you young rookie. Never rely on flashy gear to get you attention. It'll only attract the wrong sort anyway. Do your thing by all means and look fresh and fly out there but never go over the top. Makes you look desperate, like your trying too hard. Despite being almost 30 and having all that money Lampard still hasn't learnt this. Cringeworthy and rather embarrassing. Fashion tips across a footie forum, seen it all now. Get yourself in the Materialism thread Kaka, you'd have a field day.

The absence of a hard DM (and a quality GK/quality CB) generate more threads on Spurs forums than anything else. What formation Ramos will use comes a close second. Ramos usually plays 4-4-2 but there are significant defensive frailties at the present time. Until the shopping is complete, it's near impossible to guess what Ramos will opt for. I don't think it's that hard really if you are actually after Bentley when you already have Modric. It will be 4-4-2. How do you work that one out? With these signings, it looks like Ramos is leaning more to a 4-2-3-1/4-1-2-3 formation..... -----------------------------gk---------------------- hutton------woodgate-----king------------bale --------------------------DM------------------------ -----------------jenas--------modric-------------- --------Bentley---------------------dos santos--- ------------------------Berbatov(new)----------- or.. ----------------------------Gk------------------------- hutton---------Woodgate---king------------bale ------------------jenas---------DM------------------ ---------bentley-------Modric------Dos Santos--- --------------------------Berbatov------------------- Hopefully we get Palombo for the dm role. Woodgate and King both fit at the same time? Catch yourself on. Anyone else read that in a Jim McDonald voice? I've been over here too long, So I have. mackems.gif

Look at that twat! Hom! Uphill gardener! Lets kick the fuk out of that fairy bitch!

Ignore the attempt at irony in the final line. What benefit is there from having Taylor and Milner playing so many games for the U21s? For the U21's to qualify for Tournaments and for others around them to learn off their experiences. It benefits the players in questions boosting their responsibility and leadership skills.