toontownman

How many fucking games is it going to take before shitface finally realizes you cannot sit back and defend a 1 or 2 goal lead. Certainly not in the premier league and with the players we have. Again we succeed in spite of his cower dead ad incompetence.

You mean 'if' he leaves. I do, but I don't see him staying. On this form his stock is still high, he will be off to either a bigger club or one that offers him more money when they come calling.

What a player he is.. pure class. Will enjoy him while he lasts, but will leave a gaping cavern when he leaves in the summer.

http://www.insidefutbol.com/2013/11/12/possibly-well-loan-out-luuk-de-jong-borussia-monchengladbach-look-to-find-former-newcastle-target-playing-time/108419/ Aye Aye.. great move in the end then.

Alan?

It's ok they will rectify that by buying Remy in January.

Think mourinhos plans badly backfired in the second half. I think he changed to make the game more open in the hopes of suckering us in only for their quality to Harm us. It aided our cause and pardew also managed to pep up our players. The added neat passing quality of Anita also changed the game when he was forces to come in, something that may not have happens had Tiote not aggravated his thigh. All in all credit to pards, fate leant a hand but some monster performances by pretty much everyone on the pitch in a black and white shirt. As good as I have seen mapou, willow and debuchy.

Was happy to see Anita come on but for the first time in a couple of years nervous to see Tiote go off. He is back to his best, hopefully he can keep his form. Strangely all his same pirouettes seem to be working out for him now, which exacerbated his previous form in the eyes of fans. Confidence sometimes brings luck. Definitely using the ball better on the whole though.

Classy player.. Tough choice for who gets dropped assuming Tiote is back. Tiote is back to his best, sissoko is certainly the least in form but was also fantastic in the secon half and we need his physicality.

Tireless worker.. Got what he deserved. Fine finish.

Mike Hooper vs Spurs (1995) David Edgar vs Manure (2007) Paul Huntingdon vs Chelsea (2005)

Only in our wildest dreams would this actually happen.. - They would be mad to want him - He won't want to be seen as ducking out here - He won't want to go to a smaller club who will absolutely go down. - We are just not that lucky

much better performance today.. in a way frustrating it might give his scant few supporters reasons to keep backing him. What today really was, was just a glimpse of how well we could play if we had a better manager and coaching staff.

pfff is he really an improvement He is positive. But no not really. That's the issue no point sacking Pardew unless it was for a big improvement. Holloway may have an early affect as Poyet and Di Canio had with the scum but its not the answer in the long term. We don't have an owner with vision and passion so he is never going to do whats best, tear off the dressing and put another cheap dressing on without cleaning the wound won't help us at all. Yep unless we get the owner out we will just drift along, whoever the manager is. Personally i think we could get a better manager, or should i put that as a manager who plays better football. But it'll still be a owner/JFK appointed yes man. Don't agree... granted we aren't going to push top 6 under this regime if thats what you are re-emphasizing. But a better manager.. which is practically anyone at this point would at least get us playing how we are capable and too our strengths, giving us hope and some passion back into supporting the team. We have a very talented set of players that have been basically ruined by our coaching staff.

Losses and draws to december.. we will get tonked against the bigger teams the next few games but that will be "expected" by the hierachy. Its the slide after that which will do it. The pressure will be too much. I know Ashley cares little about others opinions but I think the Fans, Press and most likely next the players turning on Pardew will push him out. The bigget problem is that the whole club is so frustratingly un-ambitious. If we get a draw or half decent result in the next few games or we stick around mid table through December Pardew will stay. Bare minimum is perfect for Ashley. I wish it was that easy managing Newcastle in Champ Manager.

It is Di Matteo nailed on when we bin Pardew, from his agents comments we have already sounded him out. Don't like the guy, don't particularly rate him as a manager but he would be miles better than the s**** we have been served the past three years. The team stay in the premiership in spite of Pardew, Carver and Stones management. At least Di Matteo/Poyet would maybe put more spice back into the derby. I would echo the sentiments of having Kinnear back in charge.. we might still play s*** but at least he would make sure that the players give a damn.

Actions of someone just off the phone to Ashley? Aye, Mike just heard there was a match on today..

"Whats that? Pardew suffers another embarrassing defeat? No comment.. huh huh huh" http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2012/12/27/article-2253675-168D6B52000005DC-756_468x319.jpg

Not sure if Santon playing CB is a good idea I agree entirely but it wouldn't have been a better plan than potentially ruining Dummetts development. Let's hope he has the mentality to learn from it and move on, which he should do if he is going to succeed in this league. Why put him in that position though?

I can't agree.. I think you would have a completely different opinion if we had someone worthy of snagging this club coaching the players. A better manager would change our players in a matter of days.

To be fair to dummet he is not a fucking cb and shouldn't be playing there. Certainly not a premier league cb. Pardew Absolutely fed him to the wolves today and should have protected him more by putting santon in the middle, who at least has first team experience there and could take the flack from a bad performance. He has risked potentially ruining a promising player today.

This game means nothing to the people at the top of the club and that runs right down to the bottom. If stone and carver cared they should stop being useless yes men and do their real job and tell pardew how to manage.

Zero threat, zero interest in trying to get anything from the game. How things could be different right now without Pardew in charge. Best game from Tiote in years. Shame about the majority of the rest of the team.

Which truly shows how woeful Sunderland are, yet we only had interest in salvaging a draw from the start. Absolutely woeful. Shame our chairman has no interest in the club.. Losses like this might have mattered in the past.. Simply another game for Ashley.