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We will reclaim a piece of footballs soul and lead the way for others to follow. Will we fuck. The trust will fall apart from infighting. As a forum we can't even agree if Jonas' goal a the weekend was good or not

nah thats missing the point, I'm not advocating voting for a manager (as an example), but if el presidente makes a series of decisions that I disagree with, do I have a mechanism to get out of the trust

Oranges and Apples. If you buy a share in something and don't agree with its direction you should be able to pull out of whatever you've bought into. I don't pay for the right to vote in a General Election so have to take the decision on the chin. Similarly the support for NUFC won't go away because I disagree with the owners direction - otherwise I wouldn't be supporting Ashleys regime at present. Wishing to sell a share in the club because I don't agree with a decision shouldn't be the end of my options, and if I wish to sell then there should be something in place to allow it - whether this is on an open market or back into the club should be the only thing open for debate

Isn't that the story of NUST from day one though? Any good ideas/actions/decisions have been tarred by poor communication (where have we seen that before??) and a cock handed way of putting information into the supporters domain

So you would want your money back after one decsion you didn't agree with went through. Regardless of all other things that might be heading in the right direction. Great. Think he's just giving an example. Sorry, jumped into it. it does imply tho, that if you didnt agree with decisions you would to use an anolgy,.. take your ball home. That was the point. The manager point was just a one off, as it is likely to come up soon. But a shareholder could completely disagree with a number of key decisions and decide that their cash input leaves them in no better a decision than now (in that they disagree with the direction of the club rightly or wrongly). In that situation I think that there needs to be some mechanism to sell the shares, whether on a closed market or back into the club

I would think the liquidity would be the same as any private company .i.e. not very. If you don't like what the company is doing you can try and sell your shares, but it's down to you to find a buyer as there won't be a ready made market. Thats more what I was trying to get at - would there be a market as such for the shares. This potentially leaves the scheme open to a take over

A question if I may: How liquid is the investment? For example lets say I pay in £1,500 and the issue of the new manager comes up. Now (hypothetically) say I really want us to go for Roy Hodgson but the elected president (as is his right) comes out with Shearer being his number one choice. If I wished to withdraw my £1,500 due to me no longer believing in the direction of the board could I do this? Also, have the founders considered what is happen when (and it will) things go wrong and the tide turns against the trust/president? I'll stick my neck on the line and suggest that at least one of the guys pushing this idea would like to be el presidente. Are they prepared for the backlash on their decisions?

Franz Carr Badabinga Keith Gillespie

Lets go for something fruity..... Harper Kadar S Taylor Colo Jonas Enrique R Taylor Smith Nolan Ranger Carroll

Liverpool FC as we have known it died a few years ago. Young players nowadays don't know of their team of the 80's so their heritage is becoming less and less important. They are now simply a lucky cup team - and long may that continue (minus the luck ideally!)

If the last year or so has shown anything it's shown that for the most part Newcastle supporters are either unwilling or too apathetic to do anything to effectively express their anger at how the club is being run. Sure, there'll be people who ring in irately to phone ins, write angry letters to papers, or stand outside the ground and complain to any TV cameras present, but that's as far as it goes. Very little has been done which would actually affect Ashley in a tangible way and make him think twice about what he does or how he runs the club (don't fool yourself that the limited Keegan protests made Ashley decide to sell the club, with hindsight it's obvious that there was plenty of truth in the numerous rumours that he'd been trying to flog it from the minute Keegan was appointed). The fact that Sports Direct shops are still healthily trading in the centre of a city where the majority of the population are supposed to be mad supporters of the club shows that saving a couple of quid on a pair of trackie bottoms is more important to most than making a stand against the destruction of the club. If anything the people or groups who have actually tried to do something or organise things to try and get Ashley to even acknowledge the supporter's views have come in for more criticism and even blame from a lot of people than the owner and his cronies themselves - don't rock the boat sailing into the iceberg, or it's your fault if it sinks. Welcome to <your name here>FC. Shit all over us and we'll keep on giving you our cash. Spot on. It makes my skin crawl when I see wankers in his shops in Newcastle. I wonder if trade in the Sunderland stores are up or down

Can't agree with the work in progress statement. There are 3 clubs who are status symbols (Man U, Chelsea, Arsenal)(4 if you include Liverpool but they need a stadium and a fair wedge spent on the first team but you get the history), the rest are all work in progress. Are we really any further away from Champions League football now than Man City were last season if you are going to throw hundreds of millions at it?

Does it really matter what points would get you up in the past? The only fact which matters is that currently we are on course to finish as champions due to the fact that we sitting in first place. Keep up the current trend and we are there

Which is why I think Ashley will struggle to get a decent wedge for naming rights. The big companies aren't stupid with their marketing cash, and they will know that no matter what official title is placed on SJP the majority of the country will refer to it as SJP for as long as it stands. The only way for them to make it work would be to get some sort of legal thing going to ban any journalist/media outlet from referring to it as SJP - and even then we would have to be on the telly a hell of a lot to large audiences to make it worthwhile

My money on next season... St James Park

No he really is that fat

Well, being a toon fan sort of passes the litmus test about glorychasing. Meaning, there's no glory to chase there (and I say that with great respect). If somebody from Asia still supports the toon after all it's been gone through, that's quality supporting. I still don't get why people support a club that they will never see in the flesh instead of a local sports club (stuff like the rivalries for example, just can't be the same), but if you stick to it through good and bad and don't switch to the next hot thing, you get my respect. What I love down here in sunny South Wales are the number of men who spout hatred about all things English whilst wearing ManU shirts with Rooney on the back or Liverpool Shirts with Gerrard on the back

Can someone injure Harewood again?

(1) None have scored a competetive goal for Newcastle?

Isn't that the way the government is treating the armed forces anyway?

St Johnstone

Yes, but anti-semitic behaviour is exclusively directed towards jews. There's papers on it... http://middleeastinfo.org/library/lewis_antisemitism.html Where does the 'Jews for Jesus' tribe originate from? It has its origins in an early Christian belief that the Messiah was once with us and that the Messiah will return, but only when those of his people who turned their back on him accept that he is indeed the saviour. At that point, the reign of the dark overlord will end, and there will be a period of paradise on earth for the true believers. It's not going to happen. So are you saying if we all turn our back on Keegan Ashley will piss off? Is it not, once those who turned on KK repent and accept he is the Messiah then Ashley will fuck off?

You should start a thread titled that in General Chat

England revert to boring type. Want Belarus to score for comedy value now

I can't believe that there is an international standard in naming the days of the week with fucking ISO numbers and everything!