Pandamninator

He doesn't, but it's best for the club. Tottenham, Liverpool and Man Utd didn't regret sucking it up when the runaway had to come scampering back with their tails between their legs.

Mike Ashley turned this forum into a bunch of Reek's from Game of Thrones. No wonder Liverpool thought they could just pinch him for 60 cents on the dollar.

Just ASM... but does that count if our owners were on both sides of the transaction?

Suarez was ready to sue Liverpool and the Premier League two weeks before the season he scored 31 league goals and almost single handily dragged a shitty team to the title. He will easily be reintegrated if Liverpool play games and/or Yasir decides he doesn't like the price

Coutinho was an overpay, but he was legitimately world class for the prior 18 months. Dortmund should've been charged with some sort of crime for the price they managed to get for Dembele

When has it backfired? The only examples I can think of a consequential player actually downing tools for an extended period because they wanted out was a washed up C Ronaldo (who was already being phased out) and Tevez (who came back and played a key role at the most important part of the season anyway)

Players commonly have a Loyalty bonus paid out across the life of their contract in instalments. If a player is sold they will get the remainder of the bonus as a lump sum on the way out. However if the player requests a transfer and leaves that is voided and they don't get anything extra.

This is exactly what his agent wants - hysteria to take over. The reality is if Newcastle decide they really want to hold firm, Isak will come back with his tail between his legs come August and be as good as ever. Far more important strikers have tried and failed with transfers before coming back into the fold.

We should learn from our betters at Liverpool, just like their fans tell us. Either we do what they did with Suarez which is tell both the player and Arsenal to go jump in a ditch or we do the Torres style deal like you suggested.

Happens every single summer. Kane, Suarez, Rooney (x 3), Ronaldo, Messi... and that's just strikers. Each time they came back and kept on punishing the ball into the back of the net.

Not sure who's seething harder - Liverpool Twitter or Doomers in this thread that we didn't just roll over.

I'm shocked that a former Levy acolyte might be a bit of a tosser.

So who is going to sit down and explain to @Mike that James Dolan is now running his Football club?

There are plenty of ways back. This isn't even in the ballpark of toxicity that Ronaldo to Madrid (the first attempt) or Suarez to Arsenal reached. Kane tried to leave Spurs multiple times before it finally happened. Heck even Ashley showed backbone in how he dealt with Carroll to extract every single cent.

The 2025 equivalent of Owen producing a brochure.

I'm sure they want him as part of their wider squad. I just don't think they'd see him as someone who would start 55 games a year for them, nor will they pay that level of fee and wage for him. Livramentos career arc has been someone who prioritises the on the pitch situation above all - otherwise he'd never have left Chelsea when he did.

How rude.

Probably famous last words, but Tino to Man City I'm not worried about. Everything that makes him a star for us and a perfect fit for how we play under Howe i.e. a raging bull when he gets a full head of steam down the flank doesn't really suit Pep. If anything I'd assume they'd go for Hall who's technical ability, passing vision and midfield background would match up with their vision of a wing back (not that I'm advocating for that).

Would it cause a massive issue? Before this kicked off we publicly tried to sign both Ekitike and Trafford which would've had a combined fee north of 100 million. There are also credible links to centrebacks on top of that. We have plenty of wriggle room under PSR this season with or without an Isak sized sale.

PSR isn't a credit card where there is a current balance that can never be exceeded. It is an annual calculation over a full 12 month window - we could spend a billion pounds on July 1st with zero repercussions as long as we earned enough revenue over the next 364 days to cover it when the period ends on June 30th

Obviously a bollocks story, but I assume there's ways around that. Surely we could just get him on loan with a fee up front + a clause to make it permanent next year if it ever progressed that far.

Yep, the tribe has spoken. Apparently he downed tools after the League Cup Final. Which is obviously the case, despite his attempts to cover it up by scoring 4 times in the 6 matches that immediately followed.

This is not even 10% as toxic as that saga. Ronaldo spent 3 months crying into every microphone and camera on the continent that he wanted to leave for Madrid. Don't you remember the slave comments?

Yep. Our Bin Dipper guest should know that better than most considering how Liverpool told Arsenal and Suarez to pipe down in 2013. And they had just finished 7th with no European Football, so a weaker position that us currently.

So? Funnily enough, plenty of players are kept against their will for an extra year or two - look at C. Ronaldo and Suarez who still put up monster seasons after their failed escape attempts before getting transfers that better suited their clubs. Heck Mr Liverpool 4 Lyfe Stevie G was adamant that he was going to Chelsea... a full decade prior to him actually leaving.