Froggy

Not Groundhog.

First angle looks bad. Second angle shows you everything you need to know as to why it was never a red card, even though they put the logo directly over the point of contact to try and hide how soft it actually was. Just not a red card in any form of football. If it was then slide tackles would need eliminated completely. His foot literally cannot be any lower.

Yeah exactly. £55m on a winger and £125m on two strikers, ideally with a couple of them Premier League proven and you'll be right back in the mix. It really is as easy as that.

He hasn't left the ground, as you've just shown, was completely in control and there was no force whatsoever. It's a yellow card.

@Mike

At least four or five fouls near the halfway line when we were attacking that were waved off. Two penalty shouts not even looked at. Brunos tackle was never, ever a red card as well. Insanity the people calling for it due to the agenda they have against the leagues best player. No force, as low as low can be, no intent to hurt, knee bent. A textbook yellow card. Seskos goal is fair enough. The games gone if its ruled out but by the rules it should have been. Liverpool were very lucky not to be 4 down by half time.

Did we fuck. Champions League here we come.

They'd prefer it.

It's pretty much done. Bournemouth need to win all four of their games, we need to lose all four of ours and there also needs to be a 14 goal swing. A point secures it officially.

Always loved Newcastle. Champions League here we come.

Welcome to Manchester?

Not enough is being made of this in my opinion.

The only reference point is Solskjaer. Third place, second place and a European final. There's nothing to learn from.

I sit beside a season ticket holder who thought Fernandes was crap AND rated Antony.

A terrible shame after what Simpson, Butt and Smith gave you.

You all wanted Elanga when I told you he wasn't good. Now you don't want Ugarte when I'm telling you he is good.

Definitely a downgrade on Tonali, but if you get £50-60m and Ugarte it's a good deal.

Typical Amorim performance. Dominate the game and lose. I wouldn't swap our situations now though.

Not on the wind up. Just going by what the line-ups were on Flash Scores. Lots of injuries, but very capable teams were put out for every game. Teams more capable than 18th that's for sure.

Well this is true. He's not a progressive player at all, but he is very good at swarming attackers and winning the ball. If he just stuck to this and gave the ball to someone else straight after he'd be a very effective DM. I'd say his time at us is effectively done, but I don't think it's because he's a bad player by any stretch.

By far the best European coach I've had... So he's better than Rudi Garcia basically.

All joking aside as well, there's definitely a player there with Ugarte. He can't build any momentum now because he's not first choice but when he was played solely as a DM I actually thought he was very good. I'd be wanting £20-25m for Ugarte. I was expecting £5m for Elanga.

Ugarte + £20m.

According to Mitten and Whitwell who are as close to any at the club, there's been no noise at all around Iraola. It's probably Carrick. Iraola would surely be a better option mind.