Shays Given Tim Flowers

When you take a ridiculous starting point as opposed to a sensible one you tend to end up with a compromise between sensible and ridiculous.

He looks fed up with it all.

I don't want to be infamous, I want to be .....famous.

Bradley Wright-Philips.

The thing is, tournaments where England are actually good are class.

The guy has won dick all his career.

Yeah, it's not like its a symbol of Catalan independence or anything.

Dwight Gayle en croute.

GAYLE FORCE

Boot this thread back to main football board?

Rafa a shrimper?

Gone for Sterling anytime scorer

Italy are normally pretty reserved. They look much more dangerous this tournament.

Mike is just grumpy because Latino sports are on the rise in America.

TBF they celebrated a draw with us.

Can't bear to think of the pointless back and forth between the usual suspects on whether or not Blanc is a good manager. Its a forum mate, it's all about discussion. It's not the discussion, it's the smug self-importance that oozes out. I was just doing the standard line that gets trotted out by people when others get fed up of listening to them.

Fucking hell if you can't be confident of beating Iceland.

Can't bear to think of the pointless back and forth between the usual suspects on whether or not Blanc is a good manager. Its a forum mate, it's all about discussion.

Same in old format though right? Win opening 2 games, if there's a draw in the other game you are through top? Or was it based on GD? I just mean Italy's next opponents were known before the game kicked off. They win the group and play a second placed team no matter what.

Ridiculous format where Italy literally had nothing to play for whatsoever.

It is essential.

RIP Mexico. Vaya...con Dios. Yes!

No, like most professional footballers he believes he's the centre of the universe. Vastly overrated, especially in his own head. We are all the centre of our universes.

England playing schooled on the left of midfield.

I admire the logic here flip but I really hope all the home nations go as far as possible.