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I'll give him the benefit of the doubt. It's either that or stop watching again, I didn't have the energy to maintain my level of hatred for Pardew/Carver, just couldn't watch. Not expecting miracles, just fancy watching us trying to beat another team at football.

 

I've got nothing against him other than he hasn't been appointed on merit and shouldn't be here, it's not his fault we're shite and have no ambition.  We'll spend some money this year but only because we have to as we need to get away from the relegation zone, a position we should have never been in. 

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I'll give him the benefit of the doubt. It's either that or stop watching again, I didn't have the energy to maintain my level of hatred for Pardew/Carver, just couldn't watch. Not expecting miracles, just fancy watching us trying to beat another team at football.

 

I've got nothing against him other than he hasn't been appointed on merit and shouldn't be here, it's not his fault we're shite and have no ambition.  We'll spend some money this year but only because we have to as we need to get away from the relegation zone, a position we should have never been in. 

 

He has, to be fair, but we don't share the same ambitions for the club with those who appointed him.

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I don't think he'll be happy with just 'getting by' here either. This is the first time in nearly 8 years he's back in the full media spotlight. He'll want to prove to everyone he's not just the Wally with the Brolly that the wider audience will still view him as.

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If he's left with last season's squad - we're f***ed.  Wait and see who comes in and who departs then judge him.  I think he's the best we can get at the moment.

 

I don't agree, if the club was ambitious we could and would do a lot better than McClaren.

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This is Ashley's Shepherd and Big Sam moment. A realisation that things have to change, that the past cannot continue. But unlike with FS, Ashley has no ambition for NUFC outside of how he wants the club to operate. The clash of interests if you like will meet head on at some point and there is only ever going to be one winner.

 

I will go on record here and now and state that McClaren will resign within the next 2 years. He has bought into this so-called new vision and new NUFC, as have lots of fans it sadly seems, but Ashley only cares about two things - SD and the huge revenues from TV that enables him to run NUFC without having to put his own money into things and the guaranteed huge exposure for SD through the millions watching.

 

Talk of the top 8 and cups and punching above our weight financially are soundbites penned by Kieth Bishop and aimed at the sad sacks who want to believe in that, which by the way is deeply sad given finishing 5th under Sir Bobby was once regarded as not good enough.

 

Support McClaren and this 'new' NUFC and all you are doing us deluding yourself further. Meet the new boss.... same as the old boss?

 

I won't be fooled again! Never!

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Having processed it for a couple of hours, I admit that any optimism I have is born entirely from the desperation to support my club again. I really, really miss the feeling. Things are more than likely still absolute shit, like.

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Its tiresome being negative all the time tbh. Was disappointed a few weeks ago, but with Carver & Stone gone and the prospect of a more unified board and coach, then there's something to get behind at least.

 

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This is Ashley's Shepherd and Big Sam moment. A realisation that things have to change, that the past cannot continue. But unlike with FS, Ashley has no ambition for NUFC outside of how he wants the club to operate. The clash of interests if you like will meet head on at some point and there is only ever going to be one winner.

 

I will go on record here and now and state that McClaren will resign within the next 2 years. He has bought into this so-called new vision and new NUFC, as have lots of fans it sadly seems, but Ashley only cares about two things - SD and the huge revenues from TV that enables him to run NUFC without having to put his own money into things and the guaranteed huge exposure for SD through the millions watching.

 

Talk of the top 8 and cups and punching above our weight financially are soundbites penned by Kieth Bishop and aimed at the sad sacks who want to believe in that, which by the way is deeply sad given finishing 5th under Sir Bobby was once regarded as not good enough.

 

Support McClaren and this 'new' NUFC and all you are doing us deluding yourself further. Meet the new boss.... same as the old boss?

 

I won't be fooled again! Never!

 

Agree with most of that. Don't know much about the integrity or whatever you want to call it of McClaren, but you have to imagine if he has any then he will be off within two years.

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Already licking Ashley's hoop in interviews I see.

 

Where?

 

The only real Pardism I detected from the Sky interview was "... at Derby, we was on course..."

 

... Oh God.

 

“When he [Mike Ashley] did the interview before the West Ham game,” said McClaren. “When he came out with drive and determination and focus and talked about the objectives he wanted to achieve, he said it with such verve and vigour I think everybody was convinced, everybody was rejuvenated by that."

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“When he [Mike Ashley] did the interview before the West Ham game,” said McClaren. “When he came out with drive and determination and focus and talked about the objectives he wanted to achieve, he said it with such verve and vigour I think everybody was convinced, everybody was rejuvenated by that."

 

That is disgusting.  :lol:

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Already licking Ashley's hoop in interviews I see.

 

Where?

 

The only real Pardism I detected from the Sky interview was "... at Derby, we was on course..."

 

... Oh God.

 

“When he [Mike Ashley] did the interview before the West Ham game,” said McClaren. “When he came out with drive and determination and focus and talked about the objectives he wanted to achieve, he said it with such verve and vigour I think everybody was convinced, everybody was rejuvenated by that."

 

Oh Christ.

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If he's left with last season's squad - we're f***ed.  Wait and see who comes in and who departs then judge him.  I think he's the best we can get at the moment.

 

I don't agree, if the club was ambitious we could and would do a lot better than McClaren.

 

Yeah but the club isn't. Hence 'at the moment'.

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This is Ashley's Shepherd and Big Sam moment. A realisation that things have to change, that the past cannot continue. But unlike with FS, Ashley has no ambition for NUFC outside of how he wants the club to operate. The clash of interests if you like will meet head on at some point and there is only ever going to be one winner.

 

I will go on record here and now and state that McClaren will resign within the next 2 years. He has bought into this so-called new vision and new NUFC, as have lots of fans it sadly seems, but Ashley only cares about two things - SD and the huge revenues from TV that enables him to run NUFC without having to put his own money into things and the guaranteed huge exposure for SD through the millions watching.

 

Talk of the top 8 and cups and punching above our weight financially are soundbites penned by Kieth Bishop and aimed at the sad sacks who want to believe in that, which by the way is deeply sad given finishing 5th under Sir Bobby was once regarded as not good enough.

 

Support McClaren and this 'new' NUFC and all you are doing us deluding yourself further. Meet the new boss.... same as the old boss?

 

I won't be fooled again! Never!

 

Agree with most of that. Don't know much about the integrity or whatever you want to call it of McClaren, but you have to imagine if he has any then he will be off within two years.

 

I couldn't disagree more.

 

Chances are it's likely his last job in football, he'll be here for a long, long time to milk it for all it's worth unless he contrives to take us down/retires early.

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“When he [Mike Ashley] did the interview before the West Ham game,” said McClaren. “When he came out with drive and determination and focus and talked about the objectives he wanted to achieve, he said it with such verve and vigour I think everybody was convinced, everybody was rejuvenated by that."

 

That is disgusting.  :lol:

 

So it begins...

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