DJ_NUFC Posted November 29, 2015 Share Posted November 29, 2015 "the killer goal was the fourth" :lol: After taking oiff Perez for Lascelles. The amount of muppets on here who were saying that he was doing ok and progress was being made was unreal a few weeks ago. I bet not many of those people are saying a jot right now, though I do see some one or two have changed their mind also - welcome to the real worls. Is this guy for real? I hope you're not married as I would feel sorry for any woman married to such a smug c*** constantly waiting for her to be wrong about any given thing so he can eternally lord it over her and flash his "I told you so!" tattoo. Coming from one of the worst clueless muppets like you I'm suprised you even thought of anything. I'm so glad the in-fighting is finally spilling into the fans, we need more of this in the stands. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hanshithispantz Posted November 29, 2015 Share Posted November 29, 2015 "the killer goal was the fourth" :lol: After taking oiff Perez for Lascelles. The amount of muppets on here who were saying that he was doing ok and progress was being made was unreal a few weeks ago. I bet not many of those people are saying a jot right now, though I do see some one or two have changed their mind also - welcome to the real worls. Your permanently pointlessly aggressive tone cannot possible help like Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skeletor Posted November 29, 2015 Share Posted November 29, 2015 Cunt Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronaldo Posted November 29, 2015 Share Posted November 29, 2015 2 wins out of 14 and a loss to Sheff Wed's reserves in the cup. Any other club would've started sharpening the knife weeks ago. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
samag Posted November 29, 2015 Share Posted November 29, 2015 Our squad is s**** but 2 wins in 14 is squarely on he manager's shoulders. with the squad we have two wins is about right, not sure anyone would get many more. A centre midfield pairing of Colback and Anitia is as bad as it gets, when you are so weak in the centre of midfield you will not win many games anywhere. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wullie Posted November 29, 2015 Share Posted November 29, 2015 The midfield is absolutely the main on-field problem. The attack and the defence are shite like, but the midfield is absolutely dismal, and offer absolutely nothing going forward or back. As soon as any side wins the ball from our attackers (which is frequent), they're basically at the back four immediately. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
samag Posted November 29, 2015 Share Posted November 29, 2015 The midfield is absolutely the main on-field problem. The attack and the defence are s**** like, but the midfield is absolutely dismal, and offer absolutely nothing going forward or back. As soon as any side wins the ball from our attackers (which is frequent), they're basically at the back four immediately. Spot on . Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
James Posted November 29, 2015 Share Posted November 29, 2015 The midfield is so bad that we are actually missing Colback! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Klaus Posted November 29, 2015 Share Posted November 29, 2015 The midfield is absolutely the main on-field problem. The attack and the defence are s**** like, but the midfield is absolutely dismal Grim Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kanj Posted November 29, 2015 Share Posted November 29, 2015 James, He was w*** today too what the f*** are you talking about? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest DebuchyAndTheBeast Posted November 29, 2015 Share Posted November 29, 2015 The midfield is absolutely the main on-field problem. The attack and the defence are s**** like, but the midfield is absolutely dismal, and offer absolutely nothing going forward or back. As soon as any side wins the ball from our attackers (which is frequent), they're basically at the back four immediately. Agree. We're only as good as our weakest link which is our central midfield. I genuinely think that if we get 2 proper CM's who can close down people and tackle we would massively improve on the load of shit we are currently in . Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
James Posted November 29, 2015 Share Posted November 29, 2015 James, He was w*** today too what the f*** are you talking about? I know he was, the point is that the opposition can just walk right through our midfield, hence "missing" Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wallsendmag Posted November 29, 2015 Share Posted November 29, 2015 Our squad is s**** but 2 wins in 14 is squarely on he manager's shoulders. You need to dig a bit deeper. It's 2 wins in 14 and something like 5 wins in 2015. 2014 was a hopeless year as well. Ok so Pardew, Carver and McClaren are never going to be managing a title winning side any time soon but the players need to take a massive share of the blame here. They've failed 3 managers now and for the vast majority of the past 3 years they've barely broken sweat. Some of them are being paid more than £250,000 a month and they aren't even trying. Aye Ashley has picked some poor managers (and the blame for this mess ultimately is at his door) but those players are an absolute disgrace. No coincidence that once we go a goal down it's game over because the players just down tools yet a Pardew team went a goal down against us yesterday and then preceded to rattle in 5 in return. We need to start signing proper players and proper men. Not cheap fannies from the Dutch and French League. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ikon Posted November 29, 2015 Share Posted November 29, 2015 Liverpool, Tottenham, Everton and Arsenal in the next six games for us The building is about to burn down and there's no fire fighters to bee seen anywhere near. Jesus fucking Christ! Which other club wouldn't react and do something?!? It's like being out in the middle of a perfect storm in the pacific just chillin out on the deck eating lobster and reading a romantic book like nothing's happening. It's gone so far that we don't even think there's a tiny tiny chance anymore, that the club/the people in charge will even lift and eye lid and consider that maybe it's time to do something, it's ridiculous and beyond what reality should be Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
nufc4eva Posted November 29, 2015 Share Posted November 29, 2015 Liverpool, Tottenham, Everton and Arsenal in the next six games for us The building is about to burn down and there's no fire fighters to bee seen anywhere near. Jesus f***ing Christ! Which other club wouldn't react and do something?!? It's like being out in the middle of a perfect storm in the pacific just chillin out on the deck eating lobster and reading a romantic book like nothing's happening. It's gone so far that we don't even think there's a tiny tiny chance anymore, that the club/the people in charge will even lift and eye lid and consider that maybe it's time to do something, it's ridiculous and beyond what reality should be Buried by christmas man. No chance we are getting out of this and January will be to0little too late Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
steve_69 Posted November 29, 2015 Share Posted November 29, 2015 It's too easy to put all the blame on the players. McClaren's job is to coach them, give them belief and mould them into a winning side. There are teams full of worse players than ours doing a shitload better than we are. McClaren persists with a lineup that doesn't work, continues to play Colo and has stuck with him as captain, consistently left Aarons and De Jong on the bench when we clearly lack pace and creativity and employs a motivational specialist who couldn't motivate a shit out of his own arse. In short, we're fucked! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heron Posted November 29, 2015 Share Posted November 29, 2015 I'm with Shearer - how can you coach players who don't wanna be coached? The Mike Ashley cancer has eroded this club to the core, the fans and the players and unfortunately, even the top managers wouldn't get owt out of this shower now. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
nufc4eva Posted November 29, 2015 Share Posted November 29, 2015 I'm with Shearer - how can you coach players who don't wanna be coached? The Mike Ashley cancer has eroded this club to the core, the fans and the players and unfortunately, even the top managers wouldn't get owt out of this shower now. You cut the cancer out of the club, banish the players not showing the effort and bring through our younger players, who may be raw but will also be up for it. Short term we need results and need to tighten up in midfield and defence, become a unit and compete. If that means dropping Sissoko, Colo or any other player pissing about then we need to make an example. Mclaren needs to stop thinking of Sissoko and Wijnaldum as wingers because more often than not it offers nothing. We need that solid centre and that may mean deploying 3 centre midfielders. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrmojorisin75 Posted November 29, 2015 Share Posted November 29, 2015 I'm with Shearer - how can you coach players who don't wanna be coached? The Mike Ashley cancer has eroded this club to the core, the fans and the players and unfortunately, even the top managers wouldn't get owt out of this shower now. You cut the cancer out of the club, banish the players not showing the effort and bring through our younger players, who may be raw but will also be up for it. Short term we need results and need to tighten up in midfield and defence, become a unit and compete. If that means dropping Sissoko, Colo or any other player pissing about then we need to make an example. Mclaren needs to stop thinking of Sissoko and Wijnaldum as wingers because more often than not it offers nothing. We need that solid centre and that may mean deploying 3 centre midfielders. aye, SMC has been as weak as piss from day one, taking the softly softly approach and they've ripped the piss out of him as a result he should have made some hard calls from the off, dropped some of the wankers and sent a message, they clearly don't respect him and think they'll play regardless and they're right Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heron Posted November 29, 2015 Share Posted November 29, 2015 Aye. I agree. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
nufc4eva Posted November 29, 2015 Share Posted November 29, 2015 I'm with Shearer - how can you coach players who don't wanna be coached? The Mike Ashley cancer has eroded this club to the core, the fans and the players and unfortunately, even the top managers wouldn't get owt out of this shower now. You cut the cancer out of the club, banish the players not showing the effort and bring through our younger players, who may be raw but will also be up for it. Short term we need results and need to tighten up in midfield and defence, become a unit and compete. If that means dropping Sissoko, Colo or any other player pissing about then we need to make an example. Mclaren needs to stop thinking of Sissoko and Wijnaldum as wingers because more often than not it offers nothing. We need that solid centre and that may mean deploying 3 centre midfielders. aye, SMC has been as weak as p*ss from day one, taking the softly softly approach and they've ripped the p*ss out of him as a result he should have made some hard calls from the off, dropped some of the w*****s and sent a message, they clearly don't respect him and think they'll play regardless and they're right And that's the problem that the younger players like Perez are being sacrificed while Sissoko wanders about aimlessly with less fight or aggression than Anita, who at least looks like he gives a shit. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
cp40 Posted November 29, 2015 Share Posted November 29, 2015 If I were Mclaren I would pick 2 teams in training to play each other- Id tell one team- you are the tossers- you are the team of players not wanting it- these are the players who want it-, have a game sort it out. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
nufc4eva Posted November 29, 2015 Share Posted November 29, 2015 If I were Mclaren I would pick 2 teams in training to play each other- Id tell one team- you are the tossers- you are the team of players not wanting it- these are the players who want it-, have a game sort it out. Out of current 11 I would probably keep Janmaat, Mbemba, Anita, Perez - maybe Colback coz he gives a shit and possibly Dummet but only at CB. Jury out on Wijnaldum, Cisse played ok yesterday but won't last, Mitrovic and De Jong may be decent as well. Sissoko and Colo would be gone straight away Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unbelievable Posted November 29, 2015 Share Posted November 29, 2015 It's too easy to put all the blame on the players. McClaren's job is to coach them, give them belief and mould them into a winning side. There are teams full of worse players than ours doing a shitload better than we are. McClaren persists with a lineup that doesn't work, continues to play Colo and has stuck with him as captain, consistently left Aarons and De Jong on the bench when we clearly lack pace and creativity and employs a motivational specialist who couldn't motivate a s*** out of his own arse. In short, we're f***ed! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiresias Posted November 29, 2015 Share Posted November 29, 2015 Could backfire but what does anyone have to lose at this point, drop quite a few players, play U21s in their place who will be desperate to impress, we're probably going to lose the next few games anyway so will hardly cost us anything if they're not up to snuff. Would show the senior players they're not undroppable, hardly believe they could be worse at this point. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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