Collage Posted January 16, 2016 Share Posted January 16, 2016 I like McClaren and it's good to have people on the bench who actually have some brain cells to apply to winning a football match. He has made some weird selections and I don't think he's the most inspirational, but we have the potential to be a very decent team under him. Although I agree, it's frustrating to feel that with a better manager we could be so much more than "very decent". Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
54 Posted January 16, 2016 Share Posted January 16, 2016 Looks more and more like McClaren was trying to 'make do' until the players of the profile he wanted arrived. To Pardew, people like Ben Arfa or risk-takers were a hindrance whereas I genuinely think he wants a game plan which involves skilful players, power down the wing, someone who'll go for the 50-60 yard pass to create a chance. I think we'll get there. It's also exciting looking at the ages of our key players. Perez 22, Mitrovic 21, Shelvey 23, Wijnaldum 25, Sissoko 26, Mbemba 21, Janmaat 26. That core group could in theory be our main men for the next 3-4 years and beyond in most cases. Get this season out of the way and still in this league playing like this and there's plenty to have optimism for. Well summed up Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Theregulars Posted January 16, 2016 Share Posted January 16, 2016 I think, for now at least, it looks like he's solved our tendency to get absolutely humped once a month instilled by the pardew-carver axis of toilet. He's absolutely not a world beater but he's respectable and seems to be trying to make the club respectable. I have time for him. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted January 16, 2016 Share Posted January 16, 2016 I like McClaren and it's good to have people on the bench who actually have some brain cells to apply to winning a football match. He has made some weird selections and I don't think he's the most inspirational, but we have the potential to be a very decent team under him. Although I agree, it's frustrating to feel that with a better manager we could be so much more than "very decent". Yeah probably, admittedly my expectations have been crushed. I don't want to criticise him for not being someone else though, just hoping he keeps improving for now. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted January 16, 2016 Share Posted January 16, 2016 I think, for now at least, it looks like he's solved our tendency to get absolutely humped once a month instilled by the pardew-carver axis of toilet. He's absolutely not a world beater but he's respectable and seems to be trying to make the club respectable. I have time for him. Same feelings basically, it's hard to dislike him or his staff. At least they're thinking and trying to improve. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aiston Posted January 16, 2016 Share Posted January 16, 2016 Not much a manager can do when our forwards spurn so many chances over so many games. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted January 16, 2016 Share Posted January 16, 2016 You really don't like Mitrovic do you. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lenny Posted January 16, 2016 Share Posted January 16, 2016 I like McClaren and it's good to have people on the bench who actually have some brain cells to apply to winning a football match. He has made some weird selections and I don't think he's the most inspirational, but we have the potential to be a very decent team under him. Although I agree, it's frustrating to feel that with a better manager we could be so much more than "very decent". There's no guarantee that a better manager would have done any better with the group we have; there was an awful lot of work to be done to pick the squad's confidence up from rock bottom after last season. People can criticise him for being too safe and not taking more risks, but risks don't always pull come off, and there is/was a genuine likelihood that with such brittle confidence a risk would backfire and cause us considerably more damage. If he does manage to steady the ship, his real test will be what he does from then on. If he's too negative or safe at that point then I'll be sharing your frustration. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aiston Posted January 16, 2016 Share Posted January 16, 2016 You really don't like Mitrovic do you. Me ? He's one of my favourite players but his shooting is shit which has cost us points so far this season. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lenny Posted January 16, 2016 Share Posted January 16, 2016 You really don't like Mitrovic do you. Me ? He's one of my favourite players but his shooting is shit which has cost us points so far this season. This is probably half the reason his confidence is on the floor in front of goal, a lot of his misses have turned out to be massively costly. Today is probably the first time his poor finishing hasn't cost us. Must be hard for him to take. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRon Posted January 16, 2016 Share Posted January 16, 2016 Looks more and more like McClaren was trying to 'make do' until the players of the profile he wanted arrived. To Pardew, people like Ben Arfa or risk-takers were a hindrance whereas I genuinely think he wants a game plan which involves skilful players, power down the wing, someone who'll go for the 50-60 yard pass to create a chance. I think we'll get there. It's also exciting looking at the ages of our key players. Perez 22, Mitrovic 21, Shelvey 23, Wijnaldum 25, Sissoko 26, Mbemba 21, Janmaat 26. That core group could in theory be our main men for the next 3-4 years and beyond in most cases. Get this season out of the way and still in this league playing like this and there's plenty to have optimism for. The problem with looking that far ahead is that while we are struggling to stay clear of relegation you are going to get the CL clubs sniffing around players like Wijnaldum and they will get their heads turned if we can't challenge for something. This season's gone basically, we will do well to keep a hold of this squad in the summer. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Posted January 16, 2016 Share Posted January 16, 2016 It's also exciting looking at the ages of our key players. Perez 22, Mitrovic 21, Shelvey 23, Wijnaldum 25, Sissoko 26, Mbemba 21, Janmaat 26. That core group could in theory be our main men for the next 3-4 years and beyond in most cases. Get this season out of the way and still in this league playing like this and there's plenty to have optimism for. There's just one big problem. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
toon25 Posted January 16, 2016 Share Posted January 16, 2016 We played well today, no doubt, but he'll not start to win me around until he shows a bit more with regards to his team selections and substitutions. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
joeyt Posted January 17, 2016 Share Posted January 17, 2016 Will have been mentioned, but I thought the tactic of pressing every player except James Collins was very good today and showed some tactical nous as he just kept on losing the ball Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
madras Posted January 17, 2016 Share Posted January 17, 2016 Will have been mentioned, but I thought the tactic of pressing every player except James Collins was very good today and showed some tactical nous as he just kept on losing the ball other teams have done that to us this season, let it go left to Dummett/Haidara/Mbabu as we have nothing else over there and leads to a punt or us going backwards and folding in. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
samag Posted January 17, 2016 Share Posted January 17, 2016 I think, for now at least, it looks like he's solved our tendency to get absolutely humped once a month instilled by the pardew-carver axis of toilet. He's absolutely not a world beater but he's respectable and seems to be trying to make the club respectable. I have time for him. Very much my view, Hopefully he will have enough to keep us up this season, then really it will be all down to him and his staff how well we go next Season.. We do look at better team now than 12 months ago with caver and stone in charge. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
La Parka Posted January 17, 2016 Share Posted January 17, 2016 Glad that was noted. Thought it was an impressive Tactical decision. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
nemtizz Posted January 17, 2016 Share Posted January 17, 2016 I think, for now at least, it looks like he's solved our tendency to get absolutely humped once a month instilled by the pardew-carver axis of toilet. He's absolutely not a world beater but he's respectable and seems to be trying to make the club respectable. I have time for him. Yup. Think persisting with the same team over and over has a lot to do with this, too. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
stozo Posted January 17, 2016 Share Posted January 17, 2016 Looks more and more like McClaren was trying to 'make do' until the players of the profile he wanted arrived. To Pardew, people like Ben Arfa or risk-takers were a hindrance whereas I genuinely think he wants a game plan which involves skilful players, power down the wing, someone who'll go for the 50-60 yard pass to create a chance. I think we'll get there. It's also exciting looking at the ages of our key players. Perez 22, Mitrovic 21, Shelvey 23, Wijnaldum 25, Sissoko 26, Mbemba 21, Janmaat 26. That core group could in theory be our main men for the next 3-4 years and beyond in most cases. Get this season out of the way and still in this league playing like this and there's plenty to have optimism for. Agree with this. Also for the first time in years it seems the 'Head Coach' has a say in (a) who we sign and (b) who is not good enough and needs to be shipped out. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiresias Posted January 17, 2016 Share Posted January 17, 2016 Think he's starting to get us playing that more possession football, not all the way there yet and it's taken a hell of a lot of time. Was assuming we wouldn't spend in the window and we'd sack him in February, but hes being backed in this window so he'll see out the season I suspect Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mattoon Posted January 17, 2016 Share Posted January 17, 2016 Too early to make a judgement yet, two good performances and finally a result with better football on the back of making a couple of decent signings. Credit where it's due though, we are playing better football now and we are creating chances. I just can't get past Colback and Anita being picked for every game, the late substitutes after the game has gone flat. I'm willing to #Wait now he has his own players and some options and as long as the results keep coming he deserves more time to mould this team. Yesterday was promising, I'm just not setting myself up for a false dawn and my usual bipolar support. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Howaythetoon Posted January 17, 2016 Share Posted January 17, 2016 It's also exciting looking at the ages of our key players. Perez 22, Mitrovic 21, Shelvey 23, Wijnaldum 25, Sissoko 26, Mbemba 21, Janmaat 26. That core group could in theory be our main men for the next 3-4 years and beyond in most cases. Get this season out of the way and still in this league playing like this and there's plenty to have optimism for. Not so long back we had Debuchy, Mbwia, Santon, Cabaye, HBA, Ba, Remy, Cisse et al... we can never be excited at Newcastle while Ashley owns us and we should never ever get too attached to a player because most of our players are bought to sell on at a profit. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Howaythetoon Posted January 17, 2016 Share Posted January 17, 2016 Some of the stuff we produced against WHU was as good as we have played since KK was here in his second stint which is the best football we have played since... err Roader as caretaker. He might stand a chance if we start signing players suited to how he wants to play. In Shelvey for example we have a player who can pop the ball about, see a pass and can dictate play which is something we need if we want to play a possession type game. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted January 17, 2016 Share Posted January 17, 2016 Remy was never ours, Debuchy was properly replaced, Ba had the clause, Cabaye was always going to try it out at a bigger club to us, while Mbiwa, Santon & Ben Arfa can all be put down to being 'Pardewed' imo. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Minhosa Posted January 17, 2016 Share Posted January 17, 2016 Remy was never ours, Debuchy was properly replaced, Ba had the clause, Cabaye was always going to try it out at a bigger club to us, while Mbiwa, Santon & Ben Arfa can all be put down to being 'Pardewed' imo. I think it's more the willingness to sell he's getting at. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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