Elliottman Posted February 2, 2016 Share Posted February 2, 2016 I personally think we only played 5 at the back against Watford because of no LB, if Dummett is back then he'll go back to the standard 4-4-1-1. Thought exactly the same. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
timeEd32 Posted February 2, 2016 Share Posted February 2, 2016 IF we had sensible owner, I think it would be fair to say McClaren has three games to keep his job. There needs to be at least 3 points and signs of progress in these three. There is a two week break after the Chelsea game on Feb. 13. After that period we have three games in a week - Man City (h), Stoke (a), Bournemouth (h). March 2 - April 16 will likely decide our fate: Bournemouth (h) Leicester (a) mackems (h) Norwich (a) Southampton (a) Swansea (h) He better be damn sure he's got the right man before that run of games. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mozy Posted February 2, 2016 Share Posted February 2, 2016 Like Remi Garde,who every fucker was screaming for? Must feel good to badger everyone around with the blunt force of hindsight. Garde would still have done decently at a club that wasn't the abortion that is Aston Villa. And everyone was simply going by previous achievements and track record, and Garde trumps McC every time. That's not true at all, Garde just doesn't have much of a CV to critique, other than doing a reasonable job at Lyon. However you look at it, at the time, in most people's eyes, there was no question of anyone preferring McClaren over Garde. Regardless of how you gauge each of their records. In my books, what he did with Lyon was far better than what McClaren's achieved and at least it was someone younger and on the up and up, as opposed to someone who'd been sacked from Derby. You've summed it up right there, Garde was preferred by most because he was young, unproven and had no record of failure (or success) in English football. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Figures 1-0 Football Posted February 2, 2016 Share Posted February 2, 2016 Newcastle manager Steve McClaren said the club made a "statement" with the pursuit of West Brom striker Saido Berahino. The Magpies offered £21m for the 22-year-old a day before transfer deadline day but the Baggies refused to sell. "To make a huge bid like that for Saido shows the ambition we've got," said McClaren. "It would have been a bonus if it had come off. We go with what we have got and it's a very, very good squad now." Newcastle spent £29m in the transfer window as they signed Jonjo Shelvey from Swansea, Andros Townsend from Tottenham and Henri Saivet from Bordeaux on permanent deals and Roma's Seydou Doumbia on loan. "This window was important. I am very pleased with it," added McClaren. "We've done great business - they're four very good signings. "Now we have to gel everybody together and, the last third of the season, really go for it." Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
DJ_NUFC Posted February 2, 2016 Share Posted February 2, 2016 Newcastle manager Steve McClaren said the club made a "statement" with the pursuit of West Brom striker Saido Berahino. The Magpies offered £21m for the 22-year-old a day before transfer deadline day but the Baggies refused to sell. "To make a huge bid like that for Saido shows the ambition we've got," said McClaren. "It would have been a bonus if it had come off. We go with what we have got and it's a very, very good squad now." Newcastle spent £29m in the transfer window as they signed Jonjo Shelvey from Swansea, Andros Townsend from Tottenham and Henri Saivet from Bordeaux on permanent deals and Roma's Seydou Doumbia on loan. "This window was important. I am very pleased with it," added McClaren. "We've done great business - they're four very good signings. "Now we have to gel everybody together and, the last third of the season, really go for it." I look forward to the open-top bus parade he spoke about at Boro when reaching 38 points, or was it just a massive party in the dressing room? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ExiledGeordie Posted February 2, 2016 Share Posted February 2, 2016 We might not have signed a proven prem goal scorer or shored up the defence but there's enough there to keep us in the division. McClaren can't have any excuses now, he needs to shape that team to get the best out of the players. I'm just not convinced he can still...... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Holloway Posted February 2, 2016 Share Posted February 2, 2016 Why was Garde such a popular choice, apart from the lads that are shit hot on the Euro scene most people didn't have a fucking Scooby about his credentials to take over usapart from some obscure reference from Arsene Wenger. And obviously the Carver fear factor,which hit home like a fucking Scream movie. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Parsley Posted February 2, 2016 Share Posted February 2, 2016 Like Remi Garde,who every f***er was screaming for? Must feel good to badger everyone around with the blunt force of hindsight. Garde would still have done decently at a club that wasn't the abortion that is Aston Villa. And everyone was simply going by previous achievements and track record, and Garde trumps McC every time. That's not true at all, Garde just doesn't have much of a CV to critique, other than doing a reasonable job at Lyon. However you look at it, at the time, in most people's eyes, there was no question of anyone preferring McClaren over Garde. Regardless of how you gauge each of their records. In my books, what he did with Lyon was far better than what McClaren's achieved and at least it was someone younger and on the up and up, as opposed to someone who'd been sacked from Derby. Winning the Eredivisie with FC Twente was a big achievement, irrespective of how patchy the rest of McClaren's CV is. What's Garde ever done that comes close? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mick Posted February 2, 2016 Share Posted February 2, 2016 I have a feeling he will not get a 2nd thread as our manager, we've spent money and will expect a return that he's not guaranteed to bring about. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
DJ_NUFC Posted February 2, 2016 Share Posted February 2, 2016 Like Remi Garde,who every f***er was screaming for? Must feel good to badger everyone around with the blunt force of hindsight. Garde would still have done decently at a club that wasn't the abortion that is Aston Villa. And everyone was simply going by previous achievements and track record, and Garde trumps McC every time. That's not true at all, Garde just doesn't have much of a CV to critique, other than doing a reasonable job at Lyon. However you look at it, at the time, in most people's eyes, there was no question of anyone preferring McClaren over Garde. Regardless of how you gauge each of their records. In my books, what he did with Lyon was far better than what McClaren's achieved and at least it was someone younger and on the up and up, as opposed to someone who'd been sacked from Derby. Winning the Eredivisie with FC Twente was a big achievement, irrespective of how patchy the rest of McClaren's CV is. What's Garde ever done that comes close? I was under the impression he won one of the titles for Lyon, but a bit of Wikiiing has proved me wrong. So fair enough, McC has a better CV, but I'd still have taken Garde over McC due to the other reasons I stated above, not simply the CV. Like I said, hindsight is 20/20, and it's not like we're tearing up the fucking league with McC. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Gino14 Posted February 2, 2016 Share Posted February 2, 2016 I just can't judge how Garde has done at Villa, they're just too awful and that started a long time ago. His sense of timing is pretty poor though, considering he chose the Villa job after the owner had basically stated he couldn't be bothered any more. Perhaps he was promised more. They did seem to make an effort at some spending at the start of the season. I think Garde would have been a more exciting appointment for us, because he was seen as a coach with potential. That may have been ramped up hype after fact gathering and such on here. People wanted a real change after Pardew. That doesn't mean he'd have been better than McClaren, but the offer of someone who could be brilliant is more exciting than someone we all knew is pretty mediocre like McClaren. That's especially true in recent times. Twente was McClaren's last success and he's had a fairly poor time everywhere else since, including in his return to Twente. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRon Posted February 3, 2016 Share Posted February 3, 2016 Why was Garde such a popular choice, apart from the lads that are shit hot on the Euro scene most people didn't have a fucking Scooby about his credentials to take over usapart from some obscure reference from Arsene Wenger. And obviously the Carver fear factor,which hit home like a fucking Scream movie. I remember reading an article which claimed that he'd done a great job at Lyon developing the youngsters who were then sold on, rinse and repeat. It was a selling club so developing a consistent run of success wouldn't be easy. Supposedly he's improved Villa's performances as well, just they don't have any decent strikers worth a light. Of course he's still unproven in this league but he never really had much of a chance with the squad he's been handed at Villa. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BONTEMPI Posted February 3, 2016 Share Posted February 3, 2016 Do or Die Stevie. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Howaythetoon Posted February 3, 2016 Share Posted February 3, 2016 Watching Villa under him they retain possession much more and don't seem to panic, but they lack cutting edge and seem easily out fought in midfield. They have shored up defensively though. TBH I think they were doomed before he was even appointed. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
cp40 Posted February 3, 2016 Share Posted February 3, 2016 Just heard him talking about tonights game, what a demotivating cunt- may as well hand them the 3 points and just not bother- Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
DJ_NUFC Posted February 3, 2016 Share Posted February 3, 2016 Just heard him talking about tonights game, what a demotivating cunt- may as well hand them the 3 points and just not bother- What did he say? I'm so sick of these cuckold managers we keep hiring. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
cp40 Posted February 3, 2016 Share Posted February 3, 2016 Just heard him talking about tonights game, what a demotivating cunt- may as well hand them the 3 points and just not bother- What did he say? I'm so sick of these cuckold managers we keep hiring. Everton are ace- brilliant, murdered us for 1st 20mins at sjp. got one of the best strikers in Europe- Everton, Everton, Everton,.... us 'chuckle'. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
DJ_NUFC Posted February 3, 2016 Share Posted February 3, 2016 Just heard him talking about tonights game, what a demotivating cunt- may as well hand them the 3 points and just not bother- What did he say? I'm so sick of these cuckold managers we keep hiring. Everton are ace- brilliant, murdered us for 1st 20mins at sjp. got one of the best strikers in Europe- Everton, Everton, Everton,.... us 'chuckle'. Ugh. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BONTEMPI Posted February 3, 2016 Share Posted February 3, 2016 He can seriously fuck off after this shit. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
cp40 Posted February 3, 2016 Share Posted February 3, 2016 What a fucking Knacker Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
r0cafella Posted February 3, 2016 Share Posted February 3, 2016 Wait until he tells is how good we were and how unfortunate we were to not get anything. Fucking losers mentality. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greg Posted February 3, 2016 Share Posted February 3, 2016 We should set up a game of Steve McClaren superlative bingo (despite always getting beat). Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest chopey Posted February 3, 2016 Share Posted February 3, 2016 I don't know if a manager can have form but for the past four years McClarens has been shite Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sempuki Posted February 3, 2016 Share Posted February 3, 2016 Lucky he has a job. Hopefully for not much longer. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
r0cafella Posted February 3, 2016 Share Posted February 3, 2016 Waited 6 months to appoint this guy[emoji38] Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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