Cronky Posted June 6, 2015 Share Posted June 6, 2015 Ronniegill! This f***ing club! Michael Laudrup wanted to talk, and so did Frank de Boer. For a couple of days last week, Patrick Vieira was open to the idea of discussing Newcastle United’s head coach vacancy as a way of fast-tracking his own managerial development – before the interest fizzled out with both parties adamant that the other one had been the instigators. There had been others, too. With Remi Garde it went as far as the interview process while Christophe Galtier and Jocelyn Gourvennec, two of France’s brightest young managerial talents, would have been amenable. Yet Newcastle took a head count of these candidates – one of two of whom might have had a seriously transformative impact on the club – and went, instead, for Steve McClaren. Name after name, blow after blow. Hummm.... Michael Laudrup actually said that he wasn't interested in another mid-table club. The article is quite carefully worded. The other candidates, were 'interested in talking' or 'amenable'. It doesn't go so far as to say they actually wanted the job. My own impression is that there were a number of candidates prepared to listen to an offer, but wanting to wait a while to see if something better came along. We could easily have been strung along for weeks, and ended up with no-one. McClaren seems to have been the one who actually said yes. He's the bird in hand. It was reported the day after that came out he wasn't talking about us and would be open to discussions. Is there a direct quote from Laudrup to that effect? The only direct quote I've seen from him is this one - "I would not accept an offer from a mid-table club in England or Spain. They are experiences that I have lived and, at this stage of my life as a coach, I'm looking for new things." But that doesn't include us? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cronky Posted June 6, 2015 Share Posted June 6, 2015 At the third time of asking. This is a really dull point. The first time, he was half way through a season where his club was chasing promotion. The second time (allegedly), he was asked to take over for the last three games of a team fighting relegation. In the first case, it's the honourable thing to say no. In the second case, you'd be mad to say yes. But yes, the situation does allow you to construct the sentence 'he turned us down twice', and yes if someone didn't know the situation, that would look bad. Well done. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
NEEJ Posted June 6, 2015 Share Posted June 6, 2015 You're incredible, Cronky. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicane Posted June 6, 2015 Share Posted June 6, 2015 We aren't a midtable club though. Right now we're a bottom of the table club. So he might be interested Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mick Posted June 6, 2015 Share Posted June 6, 2015 At the third time of asking. This is a really dull point. The first time, he was half way through a season where his club was chasing promotion. The second time (allegedly), he was asked to take over for the last three games of a team fighting relegation. In the first case, it's the honourable thing to say no. In the second case, you'd be mad to say yes. But yes, the situation does allow you to construct the sentence 'he turned us down twice', and yes if someone didn't know the situation, that would look bad. Well done. I'm sure you can construct an argument that he didn't. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yorkie Posted June 6, 2015 Share Posted June 6, 2015 At the third time of asking. This is a really dull point. The first time, he was half way through a season where his club was chasing promotion. The second time (allegedly), he was asked to take over for the last three games of a team fighting relegation. In the first case, it's the honourable thing to say no. In the second case, you'd be mad to say yes. But yes, the situation does allow you to construct the sentence 'he turned us down twice', and yes if someone didn't know the situation, that would look bad. Well done. You've missed the point; I'm not really talking about McClaren himself. I'm making a point about us and our recruitment process. We approached him three times in half a year - thus making any 'whatif' discussions about other candidates completely pointless (even though, granted, I fell for the Vieira link). We were never going to get anyone else, especially when he became available for nothing. Charnley wanted McClaren and that's who we're getting. His reluctance to join us initially is a completely separate issue; it doesn't prove anything about him but it does prove that we are a bunch of low-balling, desperate wanks. You could say his loyalty to Derby is admirable. I certainly wouldn't blame a manager for resisting the advances of another club when he's in the middle of a promotion chase. But then I doubt the correlation between our interest and their drop in form is unrelated. Anyway, now that it's definitely happening, I just want him to arrive and get the next era of apathetic shite over with. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alberto2005 Posted June 6, 2015 Share Posted June 6, 2015 This is so boring now Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Klaus Posted June 6, 2015 Share Posted June 6, 2015 This is so boring now The football hasn't even started. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hudson Posted June 6, 2015 Share Posted June 6, 2015 Ultimately it won't really be about McClaren but investment in the squad. That will be the real statement of intentions. Well we've been conned plenty of times about this in the past with Ashley, but this time he's actually come out on tv and implied we would be spending big money in order to win something. McClaren might have a chance if that happens but if we just carry on penny pinching he's going to get just as many pelters as Pardew. Aye, summer is the real test imo. Aye summer 2037 when Ashley will be dead Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Posted June 6, 2015 Share Posted June 6, 2015 http://www.independent.co.uk/sport/football/premier-league/next-newcastle-manager-steve-mcclaren-to-sign-on-at-magpies-to-replace-john-carver-10302520.html Steve McClaren is expected to take over as the manager of Newcastle United by the middle of the week. The 54-year-old will return from his family holiday on Monday and talks are expected to conclude quickly. There are only a couple of minor issues to be resolved before the former England head coach takes over. McClaren is expected to agree a four-year contract at St James’ Park as permenent successor to Alan Pardew, who left the club in December to take over at Crystal Palace. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skeletor Posted June 6, 2015 Share Posted June 6, 2015 This will never stop being ridiculous. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicane Posted June 6, 2015 Share Posted June 6, 2015 There are only a couple of minor issues to be resolved before the former England head coach takes over http://kentuckybasketballforum.com/uploads/images/so-youre-telling-me-theres-a-chance.jpg Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Teasy Posted June 6, 2015 Share Posted June 6, 2015 There are only a couple of minor issues to be resolved before the former England head coach takes over http://kentuckybasketballforum.com/uploads/images/so-youre-telling-me-theres-a-chance.jpg Aye a chance Carver will get it by default, fingers crossed eh Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted June 6, 2015 Share Posted June 6, 2015 That's the depressing part. If for any reason this falls through, the job is Carver's. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Newintoon Posted June 6, 2015 Share Posted June 6, 2015 That's the depressing part. If for any reason this falls through, the job is Carver's. I'd like to see the attendance first game of the season if he does get it!probly be better off in terms of getting Ashley out, too many sheep have already accepted a sacked championship manager as a good appointment Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Teasy Posted June 6, 2015 Share Posted June 6, 2015 Maybe, but I'm not going to wish for another season of wanting to smash my TV every weekend in the vain hope that it'll put pressure on Ashley to leave. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marmoset Posted June 7, 2015 Share Posted June 7, 2015 The important thing is, unless there's a massive sudden difference in recruitment/cup policy (lerl...) that the Ashley out pressure remains and increases, regardless of how well or badly we're performing. Even if McClaren does end up being terrible, if he isn't backed properly, there's no point focusing the venom on him. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Teasy Posted June 7, 2015 Share Posted June 7, 2015 As long as he does the best with what he has to work with I for one won't aim any venom at him. It'll all go where it belongs, the fat bastard at the top. But if he's another Pardew he'll get his fair share. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Venkman Posted June 7, 2015 Share Posted June 7, 2015 As long as he does the best with what he has to work with I for one won't aim any venom at him. It'll all go where it belongs, the fat bastard at the top. But if he's another Pardew he'll get his fair share. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronaldo Posted June 7, 2015 Share Posted June 7, 2015 As long as he does the best with what he has to work with I for one won't aim any venom at him. It'll all go where it belongs, the fat bastard at the top. But if he's another Pardew he'll get his fair share. :thup: Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sempuki Posted June 7, 2015 Share Posted June 7, 2015 4 years seems far too sensible for us. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
r0cafella Posted June 7, 2015 Share Posted June 7, 2015 4 years seems far too sensible for us. Nothing sensible about it, would give him 2 years max personally. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
r0cafella Posted June 7, 2015 Share Posted June 7, 2015 Chronicle mentioned McClaren bringing in a local coach I wonder if that's where the Lee Clark link came from. Hope we stay clear of old boys personally. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Collage Posted June 7, 2015 Share Posted June 7, 2015 Chronicle mentioned McClaren bringing in a local coach I wonder if that's where the Lee Clark link came from. Hope we stay clear of old boys personally. Couldn't it be Eric Steele? Considering Woodman is apparently leaving for Palace. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
r0cafella Posted June 7, 2015 Share Posted June 7, 2015 Chronicle mentioned McClaren bringing in a local coach I wonder if that's where the Lee Clark link came from. Hope we stay clear of old boys personally. Couldn't it be Eric Steele? Considering Woodman is apparently leaving for Palace. I hope so, that would be an upgrade. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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