Newcastle Fan Posted October 3, 2015 Share Posted October 3, 2015 We should've fucking sacked him the day he decided to sell Mehdi Abeid and play Yoan Gouffran in Center Midfield. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wallace Posted October 3, 2015 Share Posted October 3, 2015 The coaching appointments looked great, but for a motivational specialist I'd like to hear from Steve Black. Both Sunderland and QPR were relegated when Black was working for them. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRC Posted October 4, 2015 Share Posted October 4, 2015 So how come he has this amazing reputation? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
nufc4eva Posted October 4, 2015 Share Posted October 4, 2015 By the way, why does McLaren still talk in broken English like its not his first language. Far too many full stops in his sentences Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Varadi Posted October 4, 2015 Share Posted October 4, 2015 If he doesn't win the next two then. Charnley, Carr and McClaren have to go. And be replaced by who? And who will be making the replacement decisions, being as they're the entirety of our board management team? We're a shambles from top to bottom, and the only way that changes is to get rid of the fat mess at the very top. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ally Posted October 4, 2015 Share Posted October 4, 2015 By the way, why does McLaren still talk in broken English like its not his first language. Far too many full stops in his sentences It's so irritating isn't it. It's like hes still in Holland and talks really slowly so people understand Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Posted October 4, 2015 Share Posted October 4, 2015 Hates wins this bloke. Looks like he stinks of Lambert and Butler too. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest neesy111 Posted October 4, 2015 Share Posted October 4, 2015 Hates wins this bloke. Looks like he stinks of Lambert and Butler too. Looks like a chav with the gold necklace he wears. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
colinmk Posted October 4, 2015 Share Posted October 4, 2015 So how come he has this amazing reputation? Does he? From what I knew of him as a manager he was average at a load of average to poor teams and had one great achievement in Holland. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Collage Posted October 4, 2015 Share Posted October 4, 2015 So how come he has this amazing reputation? Does he? From what I knew of him as a manager he was average at a load of average to poor teams and had one great achievement in Holland. Think he was referring to Steve Black. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
colinmk Posted October 4, 2015 Share Posted October 4, 2015 So how come he has this amazing reputation? Does he? From what I knew of him as a manager he was average at a load of average to poor teams and had one great achievement in Holland. Think he was referring to Steve Black. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Parky Posted October 4, 2015 Share Posted October 4, 2015 The coaching appointments looked great, but for a motivational specialist I'd like to hear from Steve Black. Both Sunderland and QPR were relegated when Black was working for them. This club does nothing by halves. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flip Posted October 4, 2015 Share Posted October 4, 2015 I'm somehow still willing to give him time. Don't know if it's because I want him to be better than Pardew and McClaren failing would only give Pardew more praise or maybe it's because somehow I think we've played at times (albeit very short) some type of promising football and I think if we can play consistently for 90minutes we'll turn it around with ease. Probably the Pardew bit though. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
maze Posted October 4, 2015 Share Posted October 4, 2015 Get Bob Bradley in Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ikon Posted October 4, 2015 Share Posted October 4, 2015 Felipards Poor guy.. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mole_Toonfan Posted October 4, 2015 Share Posted October 4, 2015 Don't know how anyone can think this squad should be bottom of the table with 3 points tbh. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Posted October 4, 2015 Share Posted October 4, 2015 Imagine picking Yoan Gouffran in defensive midfield. Picking him upfront or wide should be a sackable offence in itself never mind in central midfield. Can only assume the bloke was absolutely off his tits or he's getting a perverse buzz off being absolutely gash. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
nufc4eva Posted October 4, 2015 Share Posted October 4, 2015 Imagine picking Yoan Gouffran in defensive midfield. Picking him upfront or wide should be a sackable offence in itself never mind in central midfield. Can only assume the bloke was absolutely off his tits or he's getting a perverse buzz off being absolutely gash. Never once looked at Gouffran and thought, hmm he looks like he could dominate centre midfield or even dictate play so fuck knows what was going on in their minds. Play him there and 2 supposed centre midfielders on the wing. Surely he would have been better off with de jong dropping in behind Mitro n Perez with Anita, Wijnaldum n Sissoko as a 3. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wallsendmag Posted October 4, 2015 Share Posted October 4, 2015 Don't know how anyone can think this squad should be bottom of the table with 3 points tbh. We're there because we're currently the worst team in the league. We were one of the worst teams in the league last season as well and only had our safety guaranteed on the final game. We've won 3 times in 2015. Maybe this squad of players just aren't as good as you think they are? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mole_Toonfan Posted October 4, 2015 Share Posted October 4, 2015 Don't know how anyone can think this squad should be bottom of the table with 3 points tbh. We're there because we're currently the worst team in the league. We were one of the worst teams in the league last season as well and only had our safety guaranteed on the final game. We've won 3 times in 2015. Maybe this squad of players just aren't as good as you think they are? Or again the management stuff are grossly under performing. Don't tell me you look at the likes of West Brom, Bournemouth, Norwich and so on and see better teams. Hell Leicester are fucking 4th. I don't think they are anything special tbh, but they are a damn sight better than 3 points after 8 games and it's clear as fucking day that once again their coaching staff like when Pardew was here are not doing the job to the required standard. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
HawK Posted October 4, 2015 Share Posted October 4, 2015 I'm somehow still willing to give him time. Don't know if it's because I want him to be better than Pardew and McClaren failing would only give Pardew more praise or maybe it's because somehow I think we've played at times (albeit very short) some type of promising football and I think if we can play consistently for 90minutes we'll turn it around with ease. Probably the Pardew bit though. I'm maybe suffering from a bit of Stockholm syndrome, but I don't really think we can overestimate the damage done to the playing squad's mental strength and confidence after 4 years of Alan Pardew. There's enough horror stories out there about Pardew pre-Newcastle to make me think the worst. I think some players are genuinely broken and possibly won't recover - Tiote, Sissoko, Cisse, Gouffran (he really was useful up front for Bordeaux), Anita, Krul. Not withstanding the players that moved on that at least had some capacity to become a talent after seemingly broken by Pardew - Santon, Yanga-Mbiwa, Guthrie to name a few, probably forgotten some. The mindset of the squad is completely rotten, and the only way to get the squad to recover is to completely excise the players that re-enforce the hopelessness and apathy at the club - Coloccini, Tiote, Sissoko, Gouffran, Williamson, Cisse, Obertan, Anita, Taylor to name a few. I can't see our fortunes changing on the pitch unless this happens, or we get in a miracle man like Klopp, who is so above our station it's laughable, who can blank-slate the team. I feel McClaren is probably the best manager we, under the current regime, can ever get. Who the hell else is going to come here? If we had a proper board who put in place a proper footballing infrastructure, we could have a manager like De Boer over in a snap. But this won't happen. So what do we do, deride McClaren for not having the skills to turn around a squad with such a rotten core, worse than the Owen days, or support him? At the end of the day, everything is futile. Either give up and throw the towel in and switch off, or get behind McClaren, that's the only options I can see. Unless something happens to change the setup at board-level, what else can we do? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Posted October 4, 2015 Share Posted October 4, 2015 Don't know how anyone can think this squad should be bottom of the table with 3 points tbh. We're there because we're currently the worst team in the league. We were one of the worst teams in the league last season as well and only had our safety guaranteed on the final game. We've won 3 times in 2015. Maybe this squad of players just aren't as good as you think they are? Or again the management stuff are grossly under performing. Don't tell me you look at the likes of West Brom, Bournemouth, Norwich and so on and see better teams. Hell Leicester are fucking 4th. I don't think they are anything special tbh, but they are a damn sight better than 3 points after 8 games and it's clear as fucking day that once again their coaching staff like when Pardew was here are not doing the job to the required standard. It's not just individual names on the team sheet though it's about fostering a team spirit and collectiveness, we have none of that. Yes on paper we have some decent players but when few if any are performing as they could it doesn't mean anything. With those other teams I could say confidently what their plan is and how they go about games, I couldn't with us. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest H09 Posted October 4, 2015 Share Posted October 4, 2015 Its an absolute disaster, we are 2 points worse off than what we should be with the fixtures we've had. McClaren out! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
maze Posted October 4, 2015 Share Posted October 4, 2015 Don't know how anyone can think this squad should be bottom of the table with 3 points tbh. We're there because we're currently the worst team in the league. We were one of the worst teams in the league last season as well and only had our safety guaranteed on the final game. We've won 3 times in 2015. Maybe this squad of players just aren't as good as you think they are? Or again the management stuff are grossly under performing. Don't tell me you look at the likes of West Brom, Bournemouth, Norwich and so on and see better teams. Hell Leicester are f***ing 4th. I don't think they are anything special tbh, but they are a damn sight better than 3 points after 8 games and it's clear as f***ing day that once again their coaching staff like when Pardew was here are not doing the job to the required standard. Currently. Everybody is better than Newcastle, dude. Football results are not won by looking at the squads "on paper". Like you also suggest. However, I'd argue the three teams you mention above are more balanced than Newcastle, also they have fighting spirit. What incentive would the Newcastle players have to do well here? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mole_Toonfan Posted October 4, 2015 Share Posted October 4, 2015 Don't know how anyone can think this squad should be bottom of the table with 3 points tbh. We're there because we're currently the worst team in the league. We were one of the worst teams in the league last season as well and only had our safety guaranteed on the final game. We've won 3 times in 2015. Maybe this squad of players just aren't as good as you think they are? Or again the management stuff are grossly under performing. Don't tell me you look at the likes of West Brom, Bournemouth, Norwich and so on and see better teams. Hell Leicester are f***ing 4th. I don't think they are anything special tbh, but they are a damn sight better than 3 points after 8 games and it's clear as f***ing day that once again their coaching staff like when Pardew was here are not doing the job to the required standard. It's not just individual names on the team sheet though it's about fostering a team spirit and collectiveness, we have none of that. Yes on paper we have some decent players but when few if any are performing as they could it doesn't mean anything. With those other teams I could say confidently what their plan is and how they go about games, I couldn't with us. Whose fault is that ? aye the manager and his coaching staff, it's in their job description to do that. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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