Kevin Keegan

[Paully]

 

[Jonas]

Watched the Leeds home match in 95/96 recently. Its the feed so no commentary and picked up a chat off camera pre-interview with John Motson.

JM “I thought Rob Lee played well didn't you”

KK “He's been like that all season. Someone had the cheek to put in the national press that he wasn't good enough to play for England”

JM “I think at the moment he's our best midfield player”

KK “He's the best player in this country in ANY position, no doubt about it”

 

Love his interviews when I see them back, but even his pre interview craic is great.

 

 

[Yorkie]

 

 

Never seen this before. Love how seriously he's taking it.

[Dancing Brave]

17 minutes ago, Yorkie said:

 

 

Never seen this before. Love how seriously he's taking it.

Never seen that as well

thanks, watching now

It's fantastic.

[joeyt]

 

 

 

[jack j]

Whos that next to Steve Howey in the background

[Rich]

Ray Thompson, the kitman, I think.

[jack j]

2 minutes ago, Rich said:

Ray Thompson, the kitman, I think.

Ahh cheers

Knew I recognised him from pictures and that. Been about forever hasn't he

[Big Geordie]

Not Scott Sellars maybe?

 

All the lads looking well there - Sir John looks canny for 90 mind!

[toontownman]

54 minutes ago, Big Geordie said:

Not Scott Sellars maybe?

 

All the lads looking well there - Sir John looks canny for 90 mind!

Was just going to say. Wasn't he on his death bed a few years back. Looks incredible!

[dave s]

On 25/02/2023 at 00:14, Yorkie said:

 

 

Never seen this before. Love how seriously he's taking it.

 

brilliant that. had a little giggle at the snowy pitch when the macdonald clips were on about 13 mins in ? imagine that these days 

[MrRaspberryJam]

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-12595309/Kevin-Keegan-claims-problem-female-pundits-talking-Englands-men-team-criticises-lady-footballers-judge-male-colleagues.html

 

Kevin Keegan says he has 'a problem' with female pundits talking about the men's game, insisting: 'I don't think it crosses over that much' 

 

• Keegan does not like listening to female pundits commentating men's game
• He believes 'lady footballers pundits' don't have same experience as the men
• Keegan insisted he remains behind the development of women's football 

Kevin Keegan has extraordinarily claimed he has 'a problem' with female pundits talking about England's men team.

 

According to The Times, the former Three Lions boss said he did not like listening to 'an England lady footballer' providing analysis of Gareth Southgate's team.

 

'I’m not as keen, I’ve got to be honest, and it may not be a view shared,' he said in Bristol to an audience of approximately 250 people who attended An Evening With Kevin Keegan OBE.

 

'I don’t like to listen to ladies talking about the England men’s team at the match because I don’t think it’s the same experience. 

 

'I have a problem with that.'

 

The 72-year-old insisted his view was not intent to belittle women's football and women's pundits. 

 

'The presenters we have now, some of the girls are so good, they are better than the guys. It’s a great time for the ladies,' he said.

 

'It is a great time for the ladies’ game. When I was England manager [from February 1999 to October 2000], I went to coach the England ladies and I had this perception of what the quality would be like and they were so much better than I thought they were going to be.

 

'I joined in and then I thought, "I’m getting out of this". I couldn’t get the bloody ball and one of them nutmegged me, that finished me off.'

 

He also singled out BBC Sport presenter Gabby Logan for praise.

 

'There are some very, very good lady presenters and I’m working with one in two days’ time, Terry Yorath’s daughter, Gabby [Logan],' he said.

 

However, he claimed women pundits were not in a position to commentate on men's football.

 

'If I see an England lady footballer saying about England against Scotland at Wembley and she’s saying, "If I would have been in that position I would have done this", I don’t think it’s quite the same,' he said.

 

'I don’t think it crosses over that much.'

 

The former Manchester City and Newcastle manager also accused modern pundits of 'talking too much' and suggested analysts of his generation were no longer wanted by broadcasters.

 

'I worked with Brian Moore, who was the best. At a World Cup final he would say, "Kevin, don’t talk too much, let the pictures do the talking",' he said.. 

 

'A lot of the pundits now talk too much. Don’t keep talking, talking, talking. They don’t want people like us any more, our day is gone, it’s time for the next generation.'

[Orphanage]

Hes reet like

[tgarve]

1 minute ago, MrRaspberryJam said:

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-12595309/Kevin-Keegan-claims-problem-female-pundits-talking-Englands-men-team-criticises-lady-footballers-judge-male-colleagues.html

 

Kevin Keegan says he has 'a problem' with female pundits talking about the men's game, insisting: 'I don't think it crosses over that much' 

 

• Keegan does not like listening to female pundits commentating men's game
• He believes 'lady footballers pundits' don't have same experience as the men
• Keegan insisted he remains behind the development of women's football 

Kevin Keegan has extraordinarily claimed he has 'a problem' with female pundits talking about England's men team.

 

According to The Times, the former Three Lions boss said he did not like listening to 'an England lady footballer' providing analysis of Gareth Southgate's team.

 

'I’m not as keen, I’ve got to be honest, and it may not be a view shared,' he said in Bristol to an audience of approximately 250 people who attended An Evening With Kevin Keegan OBE.

 

'I don’t like to listen to ladies talking about the England men’s team at the match because I don’t think it’s the same experience. 

 

'I have a problem with that.'

 

The 72-year-old insisted his view was not intent to belittle women's football and women's pundits. 

 

'The presenters we have now, some of the girls are so good, they are better than the guys. It’s a great time for the ladies,' he said.

 

'It is a great time for the ladies’ game. When I was England manager [from February 1999 to October 2000], I went to coach the England ladies and I had this perception of what the quality would be like and they were so much better than I thought they were going to be.

 

'I joined in and then I thought, "I’m getting out of this". I couldn’t get the bloody ball and one of them nutmegged me, that finished me off.'

 

He also singled out BBC Sport presenter Gabby Logan for praise.

 

'There are some very, very good lady presenters and I’m working with one in two days’ time, Terry Yorath’s daughter, Gabby [Logan],' he said.

 

However, he claimed women pundits were not in a position to commentate on men's football.

 

'If I see an England lady footballer saying about England against Scotland at Wembley and she’s saying, "If I would have been in that position I would have done this", I don’t think it’s quite the same,' he said.

 

'I don’t think it crosses over that much.'

 

The former Manchester City and Newcastle manager also accused modern pundits of 'talking too much' and suggested analysts of his generation were no longer wanted by broadcasters.

 

'I worked with Brian Moore, who was the best. At a World Cup final he would say, "Kevin, don’t talk too much, let the pictures do the talking",' he said.. 

 

'A lot of the pundits now talk too much. Don’t keep talking, talking, talking. They don’t want people like us any more, our day is gone, it’s time for the next generation.'

Ooch

[Mike]

3 minutes ago, MrRaspberryJam said:

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-12595309/Kevin-Keegan-claims-problem-female-pundits-talking-Englands-men-team-criticises-lady-footballers-judge-male-colleagues.html

 

Kevin Keegan says he has 'a problem' with female pundits talking about the men's game, insisting: 'I don't think it crosses over that much' 

 

• Keegan does not like listening to female pundits commentating men's game
• He believes 'lady footballers pundits' don't have same experience as the men
• Keegan insisted he remains behind the development of women's football 

Kevin Keegan has extraordinarily claimed he has 'a problem' with female pundits talking about England's men team.

 

According to The Times, the former Three Lions boss said he did not like listening to 'an England lady footballer' providing analysis of Gareth Southgate's team.

 

'I’m not as keen, I’ve got to be honest, and it may not be a view shared,' he said in Bristol to an audience of approximately 250 people who attended An Evening With Kevin Keegan OBE.

 

'I don’t like to listen to ladies talking about the England men’s team at the match because I don’t think it’s the same experience. 

 

'I have a problem with that.'

 

The 72-year-old insisted his view was not intent to belittle women's football and women's pundits. 

 

'The presenters we have now, some of the girls are so good, they are better than the guys. It’s a great time for the ladies,' he said.

 

'It is a great time for the ladies’ game. When I was England manager [from February 1999 to October 2000], I went to coach the England ladies and I had this perception of what the quality would be like and they were so much better than I thought they were going to be.

 

'I joined in and then I thought, "I’m getting out of this". I couldn’t get the bloody ball and one of them nutmegged me, that finished me off.'

 

He also singled out BBC Sport presenter Gabby Logan for praise.

 

'There are some very, very good lady presenters and I’m working with one in two days’ time, Terry Yorath’s daughter, Gabby [Logan],' he said.

 

However, he claimed women pundits were not in a position to commentate on men's football.

 

'If I see an England lady footballer saying about England against Scotland at Wembley and she’s saying, "If I would have been in that position I would have done this", I don’t think it’s quite the same,' he said.

 

'I don’t think it crosses over that much.'

 

The former Manchester City and Newcastle manager also accused modern pundits of 'talking too much' and suggested analysts of his generation were no longer wanted by broadcasters.

 

'I worked with Brian Moore, who was the best. At a World Cup final he would say, "Kevin, don’t talk too much, let the pictures do the talking",' he said.. 

 

'A lot of the pundits now talk too much. Don’t keep talking, talking, talking. They don’t want people like us any more, our day is gone, it’s time for the next generation.'

 

Gonna get done in by the headline but he hasn't said much wrong there.

[STM]

I agree with him, most of the women pundits aren't qualified whatsoever to talk about football at the highest level.

 

However, a lot of the male pundits they have are also unqualified, largely because they are thick as shite.

[PauloGeordio]

5 minutes ago, MrRaspberryJam said:

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-12595309/Kevin-Keegan-claims-problem-female-pundits-talking-Englands-men-team-criticises-lady-footballers-judge-male-colleagues.html

 

Kevin Keegan says he has 'a problem' with female pundits talking about the men's game, insisting: 'I don't think it crosses over that much' 

 

• Keegan does not like listening to female pundits commentating men's game
• He believes 'lady footballers pundits' don't have same experience as the men
• Keegan insisted he remains behind the development of women's football 

Kevin Keegan has extraordinarily claimed he has 'a problem' with female pundits talking about England's men team.

 

According to The Times, the former Three Lions boss said he did not like listening to 'an England lady footballer' providing analysis of Gareth Southgate's team.

 

'I’m not as keen, I’ve got to be honest, and it may not be a view shared,' he said in Bristol to an audience of approximately 250 people who attended An Evening With Kevin Keegan OBE.

 

'I don’t like to listen to ladies talking about the England men’s team at the match because I don’t think it’s the same experience. 

 

'I have a problem with that.'

 

The 72-year-old insisted his view was not intent to belittle women's football and women's pundits. 

 

'The presenters we have now, some of the girls are so good, they are better than the guys. It’s a great time for the ladies,' he said.

 

'It is a great time for the ladies’ game. When I was England manager [from February 1999 to October 2000], I went to coach the England ladies and I had this perception of what the quality would be like and they were so much better than I thought they were going to be.

 

'I joined in and then I thought, "I’m getting out of this". I couldn’t get the bloody ball and one of them nutmegged me, that finished me off.'

 

He also singled out BBC Sport presenter Gabby Logan for praise.

 

'There are some very, very good lady presenters and I’m working with one in two days’ time, Terry Yorath’s daughter, Gabby [Logan],' he said.

 

However, he claimed women pundits were not in a position to commentate on men's football.

 

'If I see an England lady footballer saying about England against Scotland at Wembley and she’s saying, "If I would have been in that position I would have done this", I don’t think it’s quite the same,' he said.

 

'I don’t think it crosses over that much.'

 

The former Manchester City and Newcastle manager also accused modern pundits of 'talking too much' and suggested analysts of his generation were no longer wanted by broadcasters.

 

'I worked with Brian Moore, who was the best. At a World Cup final he would say, "Kevin, don’t talk too much, let the pictures do the talking",' he said.. 

 

'A lot of the pundits now talk too much. Don’t keep talking, talking, talking. They don’t want people like us any more, our day is gone, it’s time for the next generation.'

 

Abbey Wogan can commentate me all day long! 

[Big Geordie]

Being the age I am, I don't understand as to why we can't have male pundits for blokes games, and females for lasses games? (as they did for the latter, during the Women's World Cup)?

[Kid Icarus]

I don't agree with him anyway, there are plenty of male pundits who didn't play at the top level, but he's basically very poorly phrased 'the levels aren't the same so when it's implied that they are, I don't like it'

 

 

Edited October 5, 2023 by Kid Icarus

[STM]

I lot of the problem comes from the propagation that the women's game is equally as good as the men's.

 

You also had Sue Whatsherface saying that the mens game should subsidise the women's game the other week, which apart from being nonsensical, stokes the sort of chauvinist rhetoric that right wing types love to pounce on.

 

It's interesting that sky and Bt etc do a good job of hiring female presenters, Kate Abdo, Laura Woods etc but struggle when it comes to finding intelligent and interesting pundits (both male and female). 

 

When you see Merson, Morrison and Agbonlahor, you realise it isn't a women problem it's a competency problem and of course the pool of competent women in this field is much smaller than competent men, simply because there are less women involved in the game in general

 

If it were me, I'd be trying to combine the presenting skills of Laura Woods, with the ex footballer view from Ally Mcoist and stick Allcott in there for a smart fan viewpoint. Do that and your onto a winner.

[Lush Vlad]

I don’t really agree. As plenty of ex-pros come across as absolute idiots and offer no insight. Or they’re basically just a shock jock type that says stupid shit for a reaction. Or they’re a personality vacuum. Oh or all of the above. 
 

I don’t necessarily have a problem with women pundits per se. Say it all the time when this debate comes up, but Emma Hayes is brilliant when she gets on ITV and Sky Sports have a northern female co commentator who is decent. But it’s more the quality of analyst the channels have in general. 
 

It will never be accepted by the wider public. But I would rather listen to a decent journo or analyst, statto type from online channels than a lot of these gravy train, jobs for boys wankers. 
 

I quite like the BT Champions League goals show for this reason. Even if they do all look permanently impressed with themselves and like they enjoy the smell of their own farts. 

[loki679]

1 hour ago, Big Geordie said:

Being the age I am, I don't understand as to why we can't have male pundits for blokes games, and females for lasses games? (as they did for the latter, during the Women's World Cup)?

 

People want to work hard and reach the top of their profession.  In football, the top level right now is the mens game, the woman's game doesn't come close.

 

Imagine telling someone that due to their gender, no matter how hard they work or how well they do they'll never be allowed to go any higher than League Two, it's the same principle.

[TheBrownBottle]

I’ve no issue with female pundits - though I too don’t like the direct comparisons occasionally offered; the ‘when I was playing for England / Liverpool / Chelsea’ etc, or ‘when I was managing England / Liverpool / Chelsea’.  The pressure, scrutiny and technique levels are markedly different - playing in front of a hostile 60,000 crowd or in front of hundreds of millions on TV or in matches which can be worth a nine figure sum carry a much greater level of pressure.  Playing for the Arsenal women’s team is not the same experience as playing for the men’s team.  Yes, it would be great if one day it is.  But at the moment, it isn’t. 

 

I quite like having a female voice in the punditry world, in the same way that I like there being journalists and not just ex-professional footballers.  But I’m with KK on quite a bit of what he said.  

 

 

Edited October 5, 2023 by TheBrownBottle

[STM]

I think coverage is outdated in general.... sitting a studio with a 60 year old former player/failed manager whinging on.

 

Look at Carra and Micah going into the box and having a bit craic with Shearer before the game. Just something a bit different, a bit lighthearted. Remember when carra and neville did that at sjp, went and had a pint with the fans. That's the stuff we want to see. Even get out into the town. Amazing what you will learn.

 

In essence, stop sitting on ya arse and yapping on about clubs you have very little insight on. Of course alot of pundits can't do this because they have alienated themselves with every fan base in the country.

[Stifler]

26 minutes ago, STM said:

I think coverage is outdated in general.... sitting a studio with a 60 year old former player/failed manager whinging on.

 

Look at Carra and Micah going into the box and having a bit craic with Shearer before the game. Just something a bit different, a bit lighthearted. Remember when carra and neville did that at sjp, went and had a pint with the fans. That's the stuff we want to see. Even get out into the town. Amazing what you will learn.

 

In essence, stop sitting on ya arse and yapping on about clubs you have very little insight on. Of course alot of pundits can't do this because they have alienated themselves with every fan base in the country.

I think this is it.

In this country especially we just have former players, usually from the top 6 clubs taking turns to lick the arse of their former clubs.

Alan former Arsenal player Smith here with his latest insight.

That’s good, but at Arsenal we once won the league. You got anything to say about this match involving Newcastle and Burnley Alan? At Arsenal…..

 

Fucking hell, it took Matt Le Tissier to start talking about being an anti-vaxxer and how aliens are visiting earth for them to realise that he talked fucking shit.

 

Turn on the radio and it’s no different. You have Alan Brazil just telling story after story of him getting absolutely fucked off the drinking, be it last night or from 1980.

Last week I shit you not he started listing the big sporting events he was given tickets for, which he never turned up for because he stayed in the hotel drinking. Big boxing match held in Vegas, Champions League finals etc.