James Posted June 8, 2008 Share Posted June 8, 2008 What did he say? General moaning about how shit things were here and how playing in midfield was going to hinder his international prospects (even though KK hadn't played him yet). Anyhow, that wasn't why I had come to post here... Anyone else think Rozehnal looked excellent yesterday? He was very comfortable on the ball, and defended in a very composed manner, making no noticeable errors. You can see why he was highly-rated pre Newcastle. Obviously Premier League football is a different kettle and fish and made him look like a complete mess, but was that thanks to the Allardyce style? Perhaps a team that focuse more on attack than defence would suit his obvious ability. Its a tough call, but I hope that Keegan is watching. didn't he and another czec player both go for a free header from a swiss long ball, miss it, and then the swiss had a good chance? that was always imo his biggest weakness when he played here, he's too indisisive and shite in the air, and in the PL you can't play like that. he was always good on the ball, he was good on the ball when he played for us, and his positioning is good, and he's not a bad tackler, but that weakness is a major one, you may get away with it in foreign leagues, but not i the premiership. He hasn't changed imo, but if we can't get decent money for him then we may as well give him another chance, as we can't really lose much. Was Ujfalusi and Grygera iirc. Ujfalusi was the Fantasy Football MOTM yesterday by the way. Load of shite as he went in a Steven Tayloresque headless chicken mode at times. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
thenige Posted June 8, 2008 Share Posted June 8, 2008 Although I felt Roz had a decent game, the Swiss weren't exactly the most potent attacking force, I lost count of the amount of time they had 9 or 10 players behind the ball. Still rate him as a player, but a few too many 'heart in mouth' type passes or touches to be considered a reliable centre-back. Still think he could potentially have a future with us, depends who we bring in, who we let go and what style of football we're going to try and play next season. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
colinmk Posted June 8, 2008 Share Posted June 8, 2008 Don't think he is cut out for the premiership at all. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest optimistic nit Posted June 8, 2008 Share Posted June 8, 2008 What did he say? General moaning about how shit things were here and how playing in midfield was going to hinder his international prospects (even though KK hadn't played him yet). Anyhow, that wasn't why I had come to post here... Anyone else think Rozehnal looked excellent yesterday? He was very comfortable on the ball, and defended in a very composed manner, making no noticeable errors. You can see why he was highly-rated pre Newcastle. Obviously Premier League football is a different kettle and fish and made him look like a complete mess, but was that thanks to the Allardyce style? Perhaps a team that focuse more on attack than defence would suit his obvious ability. Its a tough call, but I hope that Keegan is watching. didn't he and another czec player both go for a free header from a swiss long ball, miss it, and then the swiss had a good chance? that was always imo his biggest weakness when he played here, he's too indisisive and shite in the air, and in the PL you can't play like that. he was always good on the ball, he was good on the ball when he played for us, and his positioning is good, and he's not a bad tackler, but that weakness is a major one, you may get away with it in foreign leagues, but not i the premiership. He hasn't changed imo, but if we can't get decent money for him then we may as well give him another chance, as we can't really lose much. Was Ujfalusi and Grygera iirc. Ujfalusi was the Fantasy Football MOTM yesterday by the way. Load of shite as he went in a Steven Tayloresque headless chicken mode at times. well it has always been his biggest weakness, and i was certain it was rozental. i've watched the highlights again on the itv website and it definately looks like rozental. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dokko Posted June 8, 2008 Share Posted June 8, 2008 What did he say? General moaning about how shit things were here and how playing in midfield was going to hinder his international prospects (even though KK hadn't played him yet). Anyhow, that wasn't why I had come to post here... Anyone else think Rozehnal looked excellent yesterday? He was very comfortable on the ball, and defended in a very composed manner, making no noticeable errors. You can see why he was highly-rated pre Newcastle. Obviously Premier League football is a different kettle and fish and made him look like a complete mess, but was that thanks to the Allardyce style? Perhaps a team that focuse more on attack than defence would suit his obvious ability. Its a tough call, but I hope that Keegan is watching. didn't he and another czec player both go for a free header from a swiss long ball, miss it, and then the swiss had a good chance? that was always imo his biggest weakness when he played here, he's too indisisive and shite in the air, and in the PL you can't play like that. he was always good on the ball, he was good on the ball when he played for us, and his positioning is good, and he's not a bad tackler, but that weakness is a major one, you may get away with it in foreign leagues, but not i the premiership. He hasn't changed imo, but if we can't get decent money for him then we may as well give him another chance, as we can't really lose much. Was Ujfalusi and Grygera iirc. Ujfalusi was the Fantasy Football MOTM yesterday by the way. Load of shite as he went in a Steven Tayloresque headless chicken mode at times. Taylor doesn't even play a game and people on here give him grief, excellent. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jep Posted June 8, 2008 Share Posted June 8, 2008 Was Ujfalusi and Grygera iirc. Ujfalusi was the Fantasy Football MOTM yesterday by the way. Load of shite as he went in a Steven Tayloresque headless chicken mode at times. It was Rozenhal. Although I agree with you that he looked solid enough the rest of the game, and to be fair they were put under quite a bit of pressure after the goal. I'd love to see him come back and succeed, seeing as he has alot of the attributes required to be a top PL defender. If he could lose some of those Bramble-esque tendencies, he'd be mint. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Optimistic Nut Posted June 8, 2008 Share Posted June 8, 2008 One thing I will say about him is how comfortable and confident he is on the ball. If Taylor had his ball playing ability we'd have an awesome centre-back. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike Posted June 8, 2008 Share Posted June 8, 2008 Did he ever even play a match under Keegan? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
womblemaster Posted June 8, 2008 Share Posted June 8, 2008 should convert him to def midfielder as understudy to gingernut Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Posted June 8, 2008 Share Posted June 8, 2008 Did he ever even play a match under Keegan? Three appearances. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The College Dropout Posted June 8, 2008 Share Posted June 8, 2008 Flatters to deceive. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Heneage Posted June 8, 2008 Share Posted June 8, 2008 should convert him to def midfielder as understudy to gingernut Top shout thought this for a while, can tackle pass looks quite composed just not physical enough for CB. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike Posted June 8, 2008 Share Posted June 8, 2008 should convert him to def midfielder as understudy to gingernut Top shout thought this for a while, can tackle pass looks quite composed just not physical enough for CB. Thought he was adamant about wanting to remain a CB? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
chicago_shearer Posted June 8, 2008 Share Posted June 8, 2008 should convert him to def midfielder as understudy to gingernut We don't need to be finding understudies for Butt, we need to be making him the understudy. I'm not worried about transfers just yet, but the fact that Geremi and Butt are probably the only midfielders we have on the books (assuming Emre is sold and Barton sacked) is terrifying. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shak Posted June 8, 2008 Share Posted June 8, 2008 Rozenhal looks composed on the ball alright, but under any pressure he tends to panic and hoof it aimlessly, or that's what it seemed like when he played for us, could easily have been Big Sam's instructions though I suppose. His passing is quite overrated by some on here, it's not really much to get excited about at all. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris_R Posted June 8, 2008 Share Posted June 8, 2008 should convert him to def midfielder as understudy to gingernut We don't need to be finding understudies for Butt, we need to be making him the understudy. I'm not worried about transfers just yet, but the fact that Geremi and Butt are probably the only midfielders we have on the books (assuming Emre is sold and Barton sacked) is terrifying. I presume you mean central midfielders, otherwise I'd have to point out the continued existence of N'Zogbia, Milner and Duff for starters. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The College Dropout Posted June 8, 2008 Share Posted June 8, 2008 Rozenhal looks composed on the ball alright, but under any pressure he tends to panic and hoof it aimlessly, or that's what it seemed like when he played for us, could easily have been Big Sam's instructions though I suppose. His passing is quite overrated by some on here, it's not really much to get excited about at all. Like I said he flatters to deceive. Might look like he knows what he's doing but erm... he's shit (also mentioned before). Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest optimistic nit Posted June 8, 2008 Share Posted June 8, 2008 should convert him to def midfielder as understudy to gingernut Top shout thought this for a while, can tackle pass looks quite composed just not physical enough for CB. Thought he was adamant about wanting to remain a CB? he is, and at the end of the day, having him as a defensive midfielder next season just won't improve the team. i think in the PL, it would be his best position, but he'd be no better than butt there, and we need some actual quality there, instead of yet ANOTHER season of mediocrity. he's average, even when he's playing in a position that suits him, competent at his job but nowt more, and while that was good enough for us last season, it shouldn't be good enough for us this season. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skirge Posted June 9, 2008 Share Posted June 9, 2008 http://www.journallive.co.uk/nufc/newcastle-united-news/2008/06/09/effort-to-off-load-czech-is-boosted-61634-21042937/ Effort to off-load Czech is boosted NEWCASTLE United have been offered fresh hope of off-loading unwanted defender David Rozehnal, giving Kevin Keegan’s plans to sign defensive reinforcements a much-needed boost in the process. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRon Posted June 9, 2008 Share Posted June 9, 2008 We'll get our money back because I don't think he was as bad as he was made to look under Allardyce. To be fair, most of our defenders looked shell shocked due to the immense pressure they were under because of Sam's suicidal approach. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrmojorisin75 Posted June 9, 2008 Share Posted June 9, 2008 We'll get our money back because I don't think he was as bad as he was made to look under Allardyce. To be fair, most of our defenders looked shell shocked due to the immense pressure they were under because of Sam's suicidal approach. looked very assured on saturday i have to say...still a nice slow pace and little in the way of physicality from the swiss probably helped Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kasper Posted June 9, 2008 Share Posted June 9, 2008 Its confirmed!!111 http://www.goal.com/en/transfertzone.aspx Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Posted June 9, 2008 Share Posted June 9, 2008 Its confirmed!!111 http://www.goal.com/en/transfertzone.aspx Don't be so quick to mock: http://www.sslazio.it/cms/view/home/news/archivio/elenco_news/la_lazio_riscatta_rozenhal/s152/c1630 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fatwax Posted June 9, 2008 Share Posted June 9, 2008 Wonder how much we got for him. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kasper Posted June 9, 2008 Share Posted June 9, 2008 I had a hunch it might be true. A friend said that there had been no transfers there on that list that didnt go through. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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