KK resigns - see OP for new club statement issued September 6th

[bobbydazzla]

agree that the writing appears to be on the wall for ashley. he can never be "one of the lads" again.

 

it's one thing flogging shll suits to charvers and making a mint but reality will hit home when he has 50000 calling for his head a week on saturday. plus all the other shit he will have been on the end of this week

 

if I was him I'd be selling up and dissapearing back into a low profile money making existence.

[Dave]

I bet Keegan laid on himself to go first like a motherfucker.

[mofo]

Almost the biggest shame of all this is the way we're turning on each other.

 

Fuck you ya cunt!     :-[ ...................................

[colinmk]

I'm not sure why you are concentrating on the negatives of KK so much Indi when what has happened is that he has come in and been given a job based on false foundations. He has had to resign this time not because of his own personal inadequacies but because he was lied to and the job presented to him was far from how it turned out to be. I like to stick by my principles so I agree 100% with him resigning from the post.

[johnnypd]

considering ashley bought the club for fun i can't imagine this is proving to be much fun for him.

 

unless that's not what he bought the club for.

[Unlucky Luque]

There will be blood

[KaKa]

How can people on here suggest that KK has been impulsive, it has taken (at least) 3 days to get to this decision. The problems have been brewing since the day Wise was appointed.

 

The only thing Keegan has been doing over the last few days is making sure he isn't out of pocket by leaving.

 

He's managed to persuade the club to pay him all his wages despite resigning has he?   Do me a favour, go and take a walk on the highway with your eye's closed.

 

It's been well documented that he'd have to pay the club compensation if he walked out, you can bet he's been negotiating his way out of it.

 

Anyway, I've seen your post about not supporting the club anymore so it was nice knowing you, people like yourself won't be missed.

 

Still think your DOF bollocks works ?

 

 

 

Yes, just not with bottlers like Keegan.

 

we'd better get David Gill or someone at ManU buying players above Alex Fergusons head then . See what he does.

 

 

 

Mourinho and Jol left for similar reasons.

 

Jol and Arnesen?

 

Look, the system works if you hire a manager identified by the director of football.

 

However Ashley's mistake was bringing in Keegan beforehand. Keegan did aparently let it be known he was interested and Ashley knew the fans would love it. However it was a huge mistake. He should have takne his time and hired a mangager after he had put the setup in place.

[bobbydazzla]

VIVE LE REVOLUTION !

 

POWER TO THE PEOPLE !

 

BURN AND LOOT !

 

POLICE AND THIEVES !

 

I PREDICT A RIOT !

[Guest fraser]

I don't really give a toss about Wenger or Ferguson, the fact is Keegan was happy to take the job knowing the structure was in place just so he could get his feet under the table, now he's kicking off and issuing him or me ultimatums, he won't be doing that again in a hurry.

 

Yet again he's walked out on the club again and left us in the s***, for that he can go and f*** himself in future.

 

Wasn't the structure put in place after KK was appointed & KK knew nowt about it until Wise was taken on? KK had a discussion with Ashley prior to taking on the job; I doubt very much it went along the lines of "You'll be manager and you'll be given players by a Mr Wise".

 

I'm stunned that any fan can cut Ashley any slack on what has happened. The timing of KK leaving is a disaster & I'm bitterly upset that KK has left. Yes, we are left in the lurch but I'm not sure that KK could have stayed if Ashley wasn't prepared to budge on critical issues. The statement from the club is meaningless.

 

A serious question; do you believe that Ashley has the best interests of the club at heart, is here for the long term, understands the fans and will be prepared to put money into the transfer market? This is the man who not so long ago lost over 100 million spread betting on HBOS. He was willing to gamble Millions on the spreads but not invest in players we clearly needed..............

 

I've never trusted him as he's done nothing to deserve trust and loyalty. I hope he's only here until he can make his profit as it galls me every moment he is the owner of our club.

 

Mort came out straight after and said Keegan was aware that this set up was to be put in place when he took the job.

 

It's not a case of cutting Ashley slack as Keegan quit, he wasn't sacked or forced out, my opinion of what happened is Keegan went with the "either Wise and Jimenez go or I do" approach and Ashley told him no, he tried to reason with him but Keegan being Keegan felt he had to go.

 

I did think he was here for the long term, now I think he'll be glad to get out.

 

So it's simply a question of who you believe. A lawyer who earned a wedge and a half for a temporary post before fucking off back to his guaranteed post in London or Kevin Keegan.

[Guest Mantis]

I don't really give a toss about Wenger or Ferguson, the fact is Keegan was happy to take the job knowing the structure was in place just so he could get his feet under the table, now he's kicking off and issuing him or me ultimatums, he won't be doing that again in a hurry.

 

Yet again he's walked out on the club again and left us in the s***, for that he can go and f*** himself in future.

 

Wasn't the structure put in place after KK was appointed & KK knew nowt about it until Wise was taken on? KK had a discussion with Ashley prior to taking on the job; I doubt very much it went along the lines of "You'll be manager and you'll be given players by a Mr Wise".

 

I'm stunned that any fan can cut Ashley any slack on what has happened. The timing of KK leaving is a disaster & I'm bitterly upset that KK has left. Yes, we are left in the lurch but I'm not sure that KK could have stayed if Ashley wasn't prepared to budge on critical issues. The statement from the club is meaningless.

 

A serious question; do you believe that Ashley has the best interests of the club at heart, is here for the long term, understands the fans and will be prepared to put money into the transfer market? This is the man who not so long ago lost over 100 million spread betting on HBOS. He was willing to gamble Millions on the spreads but not invest in players we clearly needed..............

 

I've never trusted him as he's done nothing to deserve trust and loyalty. I hope he's only here until he can make his profit as it galls me every moment he is the owner of our club.

 

I agree.  I dont believe Ashley is here for the long haul.  I dont think he will be here in 5 yrs but we will, and could still be living with the next regime of chancers managing the club.  We have lost an experienced manager and former England Manager at that due to a Sports retailer, a casino manager and cockney with about a years experience of managing a league 1 team.  None of them will ever have as much understanding about NUFC as KK had.  They clearly think they know better than KK's 40 years in the game.  They will be found wrong.

[KaKa]

Spot on. Thats more like it!

Fighting talk

Ashley and his whole sorry crew of cockernee criminals must now leave asap ....their lives will be in danger if they come anywhere near St James ...time to go Ashley you fat fuckin disgrace....

 

Grow up the pair of you.

[Baggio]

I don't really give a toss about Wenger or Ferguson, the fact is Keegan was happy to take the job knowing the structure was in place just so he could get his feet under the table, now he's kicking off and issuing him or me ultimatums, he won't be doing that again in a hurry.

 

Yet again he's walked out on the club again and left us in the s***, for that he can go and f*** himself in future.

 

Wasn't the structure put in place after KK was appointed & KK knew nowt about it until Wise was taken on? KK had a discussion with Ashley prior to taking on the job; I doubt very much it went along the lines of "You'll be manager and you'll be given players by a Mr Wise".

 

I'm stunned that any fan can cut Ashley any slack on what has happened. The timing of KK leaving is a disaster & I'm bitterly upset that KK has left. Yes, we are left in the lurch but I'm not sure that KK could have stayed if Ashley wasn't prepared to budge on critical issues. The statement from the club is meaningless.

 

A serious question; do you believe that Ashley has the best interests of the club at heart, is here for the long term, understands the fans and will be prepared to put money into the transfer market? This is the man who not so long ago lost over 100 million spread betting on HBOS. He was willing to gamble Millions on the spreads but not invest in players we clearly needed..............

 

I've never trusted him as he's done nothing to deserve trust and loyalty. I hope he's only here until he can make his profit as it galls me every moment he is the owner of our club.

 

Mort came out straight after and said Keegan was aware that this set up was to be put in place when he took the job.

 

It's not a case of cutting Ashley slack as Keegan quit, he wasn't sacked or forced out, my opinion of what happened is Keegan went with the "either Wise and Jimenez go or I do" approach and Ashley told him no, he tried to reason with him but Keegan being Keegan felt he had to go.

 

I did think he was here for the long term, now I think he'll be glad to get out.

 

So it's simply a question of who you believe. A lawyer who earned a wedge and a half for a temporary post before fucking off back to his guaranteed post in London or Kevin Keegan.

 

Jimenez and Vetere were with him when he arrived for the Stoke game, he was told they had a short list of 3 people so he knew what was happening.

[Wullie]

Exactly. I don't think KK doesn't have any flaws, he has many and some of them are what make him great but when I see him on the touchline, even when N'Zogbia is at left back or when Damien Duff is allowed to be alive, I support him because no matter what, I always, always believe that he is doing what he feels is best for NUFC. He doesn't let personal stuff get in the way of what he feels is the best thing for the club, he doesn't pick certain players to prove a point and he doesn't let his headstrong attitude ever get in the way of the football club. I can't say that about any other manager I've seen at NUFC (even Sir Bobby, bless him).

 

He also happens to be a f***ing good manager who plays football the way it should be played.

 

If Arsenal forced Wenger out tomorrow, or Man Utd Fergie, their fans would be just as livid as we are. It's not a case of supporting KK, it's a case of wanting the best man for the job and for me that was KK. If he'd been doing a s*** job and had to go, fair enough, but to see him leave for non-footballing reasons, forced out by people who couldn't give a f*** about the club, leaves a very bitter taste in my mouth.

 

Ironic that we spoke to Redknapp in January too, as you say Johnny. He also left Pompey because of that Croatian bloke in the background, now he's come back, gets to buy his own players and he's doing a far superior job to first time round. Funny that isn't it?

 

 

Fair bit fundamentally wrong with the bit in bold, Wenger and Fergie werent employed with a particular structure bandied in front of them, at pompey Redknapp had a DoF appointed over his head and he quit accordingly. The same definitely cant be said of keegan, he knew the direction, he knew the new structure and when the going got tough he backed out at the worst possible time, this whole thing in my opinion has come withihn the last few days starting with Milner, that to me suggests that he was tolerable of alot of what was happening previously, he was happy to admit that he didnt know about Guttirez but was pleased but when a few things didnt go his way in an extremely short period of time things quickly turned sour for him.

 

I just dont see the action that he's taken to be equaliative to the issues which have literally arisen within the last few days, starting with Milner.

 

Happy, with Colo and Guttirez and Guthrie and Bassong - recruitement apparently out of his hands at this point.

Unhappy with Milner going for extortionate price and us signing Xisco and Nacho - time to resign?

 

Just doesnt add up - HOWEVER id like to say that despite all this i DO believe theres a big elelemnt of repsoiblity whihc needs to be

attributed to Ashley and Co - together all 4/5 of them have f***ed this club royally for the forseeable future.

 

No, sorry, but you're wrong. The club have told us time and time again that KK has final say on any transfers. It is clearly obvious that was a lie and there's every chance KK was under exactly the same impression until this late stage of the window when things started getting tight.

 

The fact that the signings have looked good (so far) is irrelevant. There is a reason why the manager gets paid more than the chief scout. Spotting a good player from an Argentinian international (not that Jonas wasnt a good find) is much much easier than managing a Premier League club successfully.

 

Hold ya horses there...thats something that Keegan has reiterated himself. Not just the club as your implying. In fact, Keegan must of known it was a lie the second Jonas was signed - whats the deal then? He seemed happy to me then - even admitting that it wasnt him who signed him, he didnt need to say Milner was sold by him but he did....why? if your fundamental priciples are being undermined by the superiors?

 

Why is it that he's happy to have Jonas sign, no quitting even though he's been apprently lied to, but when Xisco and Nacho are signed, all of a sudden he';s having "players forced upon him"

 

Not quite adding up there, Wullie.

 

Why must he have known it was a lie when Jonas was signed? He was signed in June, more than enough time for KK to have a look at some footage, see if he likes what he sees.

 

August 30th on the other hand, when they're running round like blue arsed flies trying to get the players they hadn't managed to acquire in three months previously, there's every chance they just went into deals without consulting him.

 

KK never shut up about how good Jonas was all summer - I have no doubt he was happy with the purchase. When the "transfer team" are acting as basically chief scouts, that's fine. When they're signing players behind the manager's back and in fact actively signing players he does not want, that's not fine.

[B-more Mag]

Am I the only one who thinks these debates are absolutely pointless right now, as we have no way of knowing what's gone on behind closed doors? Nobody likes the fact that KK is gone, nor the timing of his departure. Nobody thinks Ashley & co. have handled this situation well, regardless of how it came about. Nobody but the people actually involved know how it all came down.

[Big Geordie]

Almost the biggest shame of all this is the way we're turning on each other.

 

That is now inevitable sadly.

[Filflop1]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Derek_Llambias

 

abuse accordingly

[ianovthetoon]

From Skunkers:

 

Here's the story why Keegan has left.

 

Last Friday Wise came to Keegan with Bastien Schweinstiger apparently signing, Keegan was happy with that, as he sanctioned the selling of Milner.

Then apparently Wise came back saying that he hadn't actually signed him, it had fallen through due Jiminez's interference. Keegan was fuming but was told there was still many targets in sights for the end of the window.

 

Keegan went to Arsenal not happy.

 

Monday morning Wise, Jiminez and Keegan meet again. Keegan was waiting for them to say such and such is signing. BUT NO.

 

It was a list of most of the key players of the squad with price tags next to them. Apparently Shay Given had a 10 million price tag and also Owen was on the list. Not only that Xisco et al were on the signing on list, Keegan said he didn't want any of them.

 

Keegan was furious and went mental. Wise said well its either you put up with what we are doing or you're "sacked". Keegan said well I'm sacked then and stormed off to Manchester.

 

Keegan didn't have any contact with Newcastle for awhile until he saw the statement, he then went to the LMA and told his side of the story.

 

Yesterday Derek Llmabas(sp?) went down to try and bring Keegan back but it failed and they instead sorted out compensation etc for Keegan leaving.

 

From Keegan's daughters other half.

[Guest]

I'm not sure why you are concentrating on the negatives of KK so much Indi when what has happened is that he has come in and been given a job based on false foundations. He has had to resign this time not because of his own personal inadequacies but because he was lied to and the job presented to him was far from how it turned out to be. I like to stick by my principles so I agree 100% with him resigning from the post.

 

He said himself the day he arrived he didn't know what he was coming into though.

[thewellander]

Am I the only one who thinks these debates are absolutely pointless right now, as we have no way of knowing what's gone on behind closed doors? Nobody likes the fact that KK is gone, nor the timing of his departure. Nobody thinks Ashley & co. have handled this situation well, regardless of how it came about. Nobody but the people actually involved know how it all came down.

 

Agreed. It's sad that Keegan is gone, but he chose to walk away. We've got to move on. I'll miss him, but I'm not going to hate Ashley or boycott Newcastle United because I don't know the whole story.

[Kitman]

Am I the only one who thinks these debates are absolutely pointless right now, as we have no way of knowing what's gone on behind closed doors? Nobody likes the fact that KK is gone, nor the timing of his departure. Nobody thinks Ashley & co. have handled this situation well, regardless of how it came about. Nobody but the people actually involved know how it all came down.

 

It's all about the search for the guilty

[Guest Anth.Nufc]

Why do i get the feeling Freddie Shepard will try and buy back Newcastle

[johnnypd]

From Skunkers:

 

Here's the story why Keegan has left.

 

Last Friday Wise came to Keegan with Bastien Schweinstiger apparently signing, Keegan was happy with that, as he sanctioned the selling of Milner.

Then apparently Wise came back saying that he hadn't actually signed him, it had fallen through due Jiminez's interference. Keegan was fuming but was told there was still many targets in sights for the end of the window.

 

Keegan went to Arsenal not happy.

 

Monday morning Wise, Jiminez and Keegan meet again. Keegan was waiting for them to say such and such is signing. BUT NO.

 

It was a list of most of the key players of the squad with price tags next to them. Apparently Shay Given had a 10 million price tag and also Owen was on the list. Not only that Xisco et al were on the signing on list, Keegan said he didn't want any of them.

 

Keegan was furious and went mental. Wise said well its either you put up with what we are doing or you're "sacked". Keegan said well I'm sacked then and stormed off to Manchester.

 

Keegan didn't have any contact with Newcastle for awhile until he saw the statement, he then went to the LMA and told his side of the story.

 

Yesterday Derek Llmabas(sp?) went down to try and bring Keegan back but it failed and they instead sorted out compensation etc for Keegan leaving.

 

From Keegan's daughters other half.

 

take with a huge pinch of salt but interesting nonetheless.

 

someone elsewhere also said schweinsteiger was on his way in too.

[Robster]

Just been reminded of the next few fixtures on SSN.

Cant help but feel that if KK had still been in charge, we could have had a cracking next few weeks

[Guest Ian56]

After today's events any potential buyer/investor worth their salt looking to break into the Premier League and buy a club now know they have Ashley at a significant disadvantage regarding the value he puts on Newcastle United. Ashley now has an "unmanagable/difficult" investment on his portfolio. Unless he comes in drag ain't no way he can take his place at any game home or away. He is not welcome any more - despite bailing out the club and settling debts outstanding by the previous bunch of nitwits. He could try to brave it out but I doubt it. So he has to sell. Sooner the better imho.

[Dave]

I wonder if Keegan will come out and tell us all what's gone on.

 

Never been that bothered about Curbishley either way, but I respect how he's come out and told the fans exactly what happened that forced him to resign.