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After looking at the whole thing, I blame everybody involved as they've all fucked the fans and the rest of the team over. Everybody could have said no to this ffs, even with the transfer request on the table. If you want success then you have to have a top class striker in your team who is capable of 15+ goals a season, and hold firm in situations when teams come in but we've completely fallen at the first hurdle. In today's game even £35m is useless if it's not spent right and I have strong doubts that it will be in the summer. It looked like we were going to build our team around him and there was even hope in some corners that we could scrape europe this season (ok yes though it may have been a bridge too far this season, the potential was still there for years to come). For the first time since Sir Bobby's reign I was starting to feel proud of our team again.

 

Our self-destructive management have once again found a way to ruin the good progress we have made in the last year and we now have to start again, which could take another couple of years now that we have absolutely no strikers capable of scoring. This is completely ignoring the possibility of relegation by the way, which would take even longer. Getting rid of Hughton was one extreme, but this just absolutely takes the cake. Why would you agree to sell your best asset to a rival club with 5 bastarding hours chance of finding a replacement, one which won't be better than the asset leaving? It just defies common sense, and nobody else would do it. What's worse is if by some miracle we do find an adequate replacement who is able to hit double figures by Christmas then he'll be off in the next January window when someone else comes in for him.

 

As for Carroll, he claims he was forced out but was under contract for 5 years man. What, are they gonna terminate his contract, or break his legs if he'd said no? He's a money grabbing snake and shouldn't be forgiven for holding the club he supposedly "loves" to ransom, for leaving us in the shit, and naturally I hope he's a massive flop for them. The whole thing still makes me sick and I'll be astounded if we survive the drop with the pile of shit we have up front now.

 

Everybody involved in this transfer hang your fucking heads in shame.

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JUDAS CARROLL

 

Succinct, accurate and straight to the point. (The prematch banner)

 

Photos?

 

It was there, I was only 5-6 rows front of it.  Also I would like to note I got called a fickle bastard by a fan for calling Andy Carroll a wanker.

 

The fickle fans are the one's that like to make Ashley to blame for everything that is wrong in football in general to which they are out there.

 

The fat cockney bastard chants were certainly there but no where near as bad as against Liverpool (h) or in the few games last season after the whole Sports Direct @ St James' Park shit.

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Was shown on SS2 on a split screen with Carroll walking out to an ovation at Anfield.

 

I must have missed it. Didn't take much notice before the game tbh.

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I don't blame anybody.  Liverpool are stupid for offering £35m for him.  Ashley would have been stupid to turn it down.  Carroll would have been stupid not to go.  The fans lose out because we lose a good player and he won't be replaced with similar quality but trying to apportion blame is pointless imo.

 

Tend to agree.

 

We're the ones that are left most disappointed, quelle surpise.

 

Idiots.

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I don't blame anybody.  Liverpool are stupid for offering £35m for him.  Ashley would have been stupid to turn it down.  Carroll would have been stupid not to go.  The fans lose out because we lose a good player and he won't be replaced with similar quality but trying to apportion blame is pointless imo.

 

Tend to agree.

 

We're the ones that are left most disappointed, quelle surpise.

 

Idiots.

 

Love you.

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Tell you one thing, I bet he's impressed at seeing how a proper club is run.

 

Best comment of the night Dave.

 

Couldn't agree more, good for him for joining a club with GENUINE AMBITION TO SUCCEED whether it works out for him or not. I'd have done exactly the same

 

For other examples of this see Beardsley, Gascoinge, Waddle, Milner, Given and the ultimate 'Judas' Hamann who left to go on win several trophies

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Tell you one thing, I bet he's impressed at seeing how a proper club is run.

 

Best comment of the night Dave.

 

Couldn't agree more, good for him for joining a club with GENUINE AMBITION TO SUCCEED whether it works out for him or not. I'd have done exactly the same

 

For other examples of this see Beardsley, Gascoinge, Waddle, Milner, Given and the ultimate 'Judas' Hamann who left to go on win several trophies

 

I think its fairly safe to say though, he didnt join Liverpool because f their ambition.

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Tell you one thing, I bet he's impressed at seeing how a proper club is run.

 

Best comment of the night Dave.

 

Couldn't agree more, good for him for joining a club with GENUINE AMBITION TO SUCCEED whether it works out for him or not. I'd have done exactly the same

 

For other examples of this see Beardsley, Gascoinge, Waddle, Milner, Given and the ultimate 'Judas' Hamann who left to go on win several trophies

 

I think its fairly safe to say though, he didnt join Liverpool because f their ambition.

 

ambition and money aren't too far from the same thing tbh

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Tell you one thing, I bet he's impressed at seeing how a proper club is run.

 

Best comment of the night Dave.

 

Except that Liverpool are run terribly and were considered a shambles until Dalglish took over a few days ago.

 

So what you mean is Liverpool were run terribly then, and now maybe this signals that the future might be on the up for them.  As opposed to, say, a team who needs to amass about 10 more points with a strikeforce of Best, Ranger and Lovenkrands.

 

Hm.

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Tell you one thing, I bet he's impressed at seeing how a proper club is run.

 

Best comment of the night Dave.

 

Except that Liverpool are run terribly and were considered a shambles until Dalglish took over a few days ago.

 

So what you mean is Liverpool were run terribly then, and now maybe this signals that the future might be on the up for them.  As opposed to, say, a team who needs to amass about 10 more points with a strikeforce of Best, Ranger and Lovenkrands.

 

Hm.

 

Well yeah, but just spending massive money on two forwards doesn't make them a well-run club.

 

Judging them just by the last 72 hours is a bit crazy.

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Tell you one thing, I bet he's impressed at seeing how a proper club is run.

 

Best comment of the night Dave.

 

Except that Liverpool are run terribly and were considered a shambles until Dalglish took over a few days ago.

 

So what you mean is Liverpool were run terribly then, and now maybe this signals that the future might be on the up for them.  As opposed to, say, a team who needs to amass about 10 more points with a strikeforce of Best, Ranger and Lovenkrands.

 

Hm.

 

Well yeah, but just spending massive money on two forwards doesn't make them a well-run club.

 

Judging them just by the last 72 hours is a bit crazy.

 

erm the point is they were run terribly as they'd ceased investing in the squad, had loads of shit/average players and a manager that was wrong for the club

 

in the last 72 hours they've let go torres but signed a potentially very good partnership things seem to be clicking more on the pitch

 

i'm not judging them on the last 72 hours anymore than i'm judging the current owners/manager on what happened before they were in place and the transfer window opened tbh

 

you can only judge them from now, and they've started ok for me - 6 points off 5th with the season they've had so far, personally i think they'll finish 5th now and build more in the summer

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The commentators were doing my nut in last night. "Let's just talk about how Newcastle will cope without Andy Carroll"!!!!!

 

He's going to be out injured for another 4 weeks so would have made absolutely no difference to our performance ffs!

 

True.  However, we had accepted we would struggle for a few games but we knew Carroll would be back and there would still be enough games to pick up points.  Just cannot see where the goals will come from and  I worry about the damage to the morale of the other players.

 

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Probably been mentioned already anyone else have the calender and found his pic for February :lol:

 

Went straight in the bin, after changing his positon to rentboy and birthplace to sunlun.

 

Shola's injury highlights how ludicrous it was on the club's side.

 

Surely if they were desperate enough to spunk £35m on him we could have said "This would leave us with no strikers, you can only have him if you give us one of your rejects like Jovanovic or N'Gog on loan till the end of the season"?  Why do we never think of these things?  Remember when we wrapped up the deal to sell Given and then went "Oh, by the way, can be buy Michael Johnson?

 

 

Freddie wouldn't have sold him.

 

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Henry Winter proving what an utter cunt he is:

 

At Anfield. Carroll quietly impressive, voicing respect for #nufc but adding #lfc "feels like home now" because of "fantastic reception"
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Absolute crap comparison from Fat Fred there with regards to him turning down Liverpools offer for Shearer. I take it he's on about when they offered 3m for him in the summer of 2003 I think it was. Apart from £3m being a world away from £35m (even at Shearers age), he was our captain and was in the goalscoring form of his life still so of course £3m isnt anywhere near as tempting as £35m for a 22 year old with half a seasons Premiership experience. He's just loosely using a fact that he turned down an offer for Shearer as if he turned down huge money for him at his peak.

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