BONTEMPI Posted November 26, 2009 Share Posted November 26, 2009 Spurs have spent £150m on players in 3 windows, no sane person would expect us to spend even a 5th of that in that time. If we want to keep up with the these clubs we must at least compete with them (in the long term of course), if we don't we will not ever get back into Europe, which even now must be the long term goal. If we sign Kilgallon's we won't stay in the premiership very long. Hey! That's my wife's half-brother you're slagging off there. If anyone is going to tell him he's not good enough for the prem, it's going to be me. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lucifer Posted November 26, 2009 Share Posted November 26, 2009 I really like his name, never seen him play. Sign him. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest kingdawson Posted November 26, 2009 Share Posted November 26, 2009 One thing i've never understood. Why did Nottingham Forest agree to release Kris Commons from his contract when he still had about a year left, and a lot of clubs were actually interested in him at the time which would have enabled them to get a fee? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest kingdawson Posted November 26, 2009 Share Posted November 26, 2009 Forget what i just wrote please. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Roger Kint Posted November 26, 2009 Share Posted November 26, 2009 Spurs have spent £150m on players in 3 windows, no sane person would expect us to spend even a 5th of that in that time. If we want to keep up with the these clubs we must at least compete with them (in the long term of course), if we don't we will not ever get back into Europe, which even now must be the long term goal. If we sign Kilgallon's we won't stay in the premiership very long. Well by all means waste time discussing the long term. Theres 3 far far more pressing matters before that ie Getting Up, Staying Up and Pushing On to mid table. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JH Posted November 26, 2009 Share Posted November 26, 2009 This 'we must compete with the likes of West Ham and Sunderland' is utter crap for the situation that we are in at the moment. The sorts of mid-table signings that they are attributed to like Upson etc. will not even look at us when we're in the Championship, so what are we supposed to do? Not sign anyone this season? That'll end in tears when the likes of Taylor and Nolan and Guthrie get injured and we're left with no cover. We make signings to get us up to the PL then we focus in the summer on players that will keep us there. Kilgallon may not be PL quality, be he is good enough to play in a promotion-pushing team IMO. With a squad lacking in quality in depth, we can't afford to think long term. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pilko Posted November 26, 2009 Share Posted November 26, 2009 Kilgallon would be fine as a 4th choice or whatever in the Premiership, its just if he was playing week-in week-out that we would suffer. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alberto2005 Posted November 26, 2009 Share Posted November 26, 2009 Sign him, he's a decent player. I fear losing Coloccini if we do though. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dokko Posted November 26, 2009 Share Posted November 26, 2009 The lads on a free next season, I'd be happy picking him up for nothing then regardless of what division were in, seems a canny defender. They don't want to loan him and let him leave, I reckon we should offer them Geremi or and Butt in a swapsy You never know, they might go for it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Teasy Posted November 26, 2009 Share Posted November 26, 2009 I've been one of Coloccini's biggest fans since he arrived, but even I wouldn't exactly fear losing him. He's a player with some very good attributes but also some poor ones. I'd be happy to give him another chance in the Premiership if he wasn't on such a ridiculous wage. As it is, if we brought in Killgalon (who's a solid defender) for a couple of million and sold Coloccini for £7m that would be a pretty good deal IMO. Oh and to people harping on about money going into Ashley's pocket, wake up! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Super Duper Branko Strupar Posted November 26, 2009 Share Posted November 26, 2009 I haven't seen Killgallon much since he's been at Sheff Utd, but I lived in Leeds when he played for them, still do, went to a few games, watched whatever was on the box, and he was distinctly average. Never in consideration as a Premiership player! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest TrEe Posted November 26, 2009 Share Posted November 26, 2009 I was also a huge Coloccini fan when he arrived, but he isn't made for english football. He is very good techniqely. But he can't win a header to save his life, and he wonders out of position way to often. I think the biggest reason we keep as many clean sheets as we do, is the team effort as a whole. I wouldn't mind signing Killgalon for a couple of mil. and selling colo for a decent fee. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Optimistic Nut Posted November 26, 2009 Share Posted November 26, 2009 Hughton on SSN just there confirming he's one of a few players he's chasing. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
STM Posted November 26, 2009 Share Posted November 26, 2009 This 'we must compete with the likes of West Ham and Sunderland' is utter crap for the situation that we are in at the moment. The sorts of mid-table signings that they are attributed to like Upson etc. will not even look at us when we're in the Championship, so what are we supposed to do? Not sign anyone this season? That'll end in tears when the likes of Taylor and Nolan and Guthrie get injured and we're left with no cover. We make signings to get us up to the PL then we focus in the summer on players that will keep us there. Kilgallon may not be PL quality, be he is good enough to play in a promotion-pushing team IMO. With a squad lacking in quality in depth, we can't afford to think long term. As a fan there is nothing wrong with speculating long term, i was simply having a venture onto the subject. As i mentioned earlier Kilgallon would be a good signing at this level but i wouldn't play him over Colo. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
macca888 Posted November 26, 2009 Share Posted November 26, 2009 At this stage of the season, it is wise to try and tie up someone like him in readiness for January because he is certainly a better player than Khiz who will be returning to Blackburn anyway because his loan period is up. I would like us to sign Simpson permanently as well. Send Harewood back and get Beckford in. Once we are promoted, we can then look to buying better quality players to estab lish ourselves back in the PL. The likes of Kilgallon and Beckford will be good back up players in the PL. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronaldo Posted November 26, 2009 Share Posted November 26, 2009 Good backup is going too far. Neither are premiership players and never will be. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cajun Posted November 26, 2009 Share Posted November 26, 2009 Weren't you saying beckford would get 10 in the premiership? That's a pretty good return for someone who isn't good enough to play in that league. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
lovejoy Posted November 26, 2009 Share Posted November 26, 2009 Defoe has always hovered around the ten mark. Is he not good enough either? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
madras Posted November 26, 2009 Share Posted November 26, 2009 rumour on mersyside is moyes wants steve taylor...if we swap taylor for kilgallon then no as it's unlikely everton will splash silly money. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronaldo Posted November 27, 2009 Share Posted November 27, 2009 Weren't you saying beckford would get 10 in the premiership? That's a pretty good return for someone who isn't good enough to play in that league. I said he's capable of 8-10. But his overall play completes negates the point of having him in the team. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronaldo Posted November 27, 2009 Share Posted November 27, 2009 Defoe has always hovered around the ten mark. Is he not good enough either? Have a think, see if you can eventually work out the difference. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cajun Posted November 27, 2009 Share Posted November 27, 2009 I think a few of the lower Prem sides would settle for a striker that offers them nothing more than 10 league goals a season. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
lovejoy Posted November 27, 2009 Share Posted November 27, 2009 Defoe has always hovered around the ten mark. Is he not good enough either? Have a think, see if you can eventually work out the difference. seen a lot of beckford have we? In fact, are you a scout? As you seem to know a lot of 'facts' about an awful lot of players? Serious question btw Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
lovejoy Posted November 27, 2009 Share Posted November 27, 2009 rumour on mersyside is moyes wants steve taylor...if we swap taylor for kilgallon then no as it's unlikely everton will splash silly money. wouldn't surprise me. Was amazed we kept him last window. Would he want to go if we're still top though? Surely he'd want to hang on and play for us in prem? Can't see everton making Europe next season so do t see why he would go? How's that fella doing who they signed late in the last window? the defender? Can't think of his name and can't be arse searching. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
lovejoy Posted November 27, 2009 Share Posted November 27, 2009 I think a few of the lower Prem sides would settle for a striker that offers them nothing more than 10 league goals a season. we will be crying out for it should we go up. I can see us going for beckford in January. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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