Guest andrew Posted April 3, 2012 Share Posted April 3, 2012 Interesting post on rawk: It was brutal to see us fall apart against Newcastle, of all teams. Newcastle who sold us a pup and replaced him with not just one, but two, strikers most of our fans would now kill for. Newcastle who we normally stuff, St James's or no St James's. Newcastle who are managed by a tart like Pardew but who somehow contrive to play a maverick like Ben Arfa, the sort of intuitive player we haven't seen take the field for Liverpool since.....since....since who? Litmanen? Beardsley? Of course he wouldn't be able to play for us because he doesn't 'track back' or whatever it is the Dirk Kuyts of the world do. seems the tables have turned slightly with the tracking back comment Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wilson Posted April 3, 2012 Share Posted April 3, 2012 someones just put this on another forum from RAWK....great to see how bitter/mad/jealous of ben arfa some of them are It was brutal to see us fall apart against Newcastle, of all teams. Newcastle who sold us a pup and replaced him with not just one, but two, strikers most of our fans would now kill for. Newcastle who we normally stuff, St James's or no St James's. Newcastle who are managed by a tart like Pardew but who somehow contrive to play a maverick like Ben Arfa, the sort of intuitive player we haven't seen take the field for Liverpool since.....since....since who? Litmanen? Beardsley? Of course he wouldn't be able to play for us because he doesn't 'track back' or whatever it is the Dirk Kuyts of the world do. It's like a virus has got into the team and no one has a clue what the antidote is. Maybe a semi-final win over Everton will be the antidote. One fears, if it is not, that Kenny is now on borrowed time. It's so hard to work out what the team is trying to do. Clearly there must have been a vague sort of message to hit the ball long a bit more often - and sure enough quite a few lollipops were launched from the back which Newcastle's weak defence picked up and sucked. But what was Gerrard meant to be doing? What was Shelvey's role exactly? And Spearing? Is he allowed to move when we have the ball? I know he points a lot and spreads his arms out wide. But movement? Is that not permitted? That was a predominantly British team out there today yet there seemed to be incredible communication problems: players converging on the same ball, players making identical runs into the box, players occupying the same space. Players standing still for seconds on end. Zero imagination. I caught a bit of Pienaar's movement off the ball yesterday on MoD. Jeezus, how we could do with some of that. Or Ben Arfa's today. These sorts of midfielders know what it means to support the man on the ball. They change their mind and alter their trajectory when the ball moves in an unexpected way and they do it instantly and damagingly. We seem to have none of that intellligence in the middle of the pitch. Let's not talk about Carroll. He had such a wonderful chance to make his erstwhile admirers choke on their pies and elected to dive instead. And what an inept dive. At least clip the fucker, Pires style, if you're going down. I see no hope for him at Liverpool unless Liverpool have given up on hope. I hope Suarez doesn't give up on us. He had a poor game today but he was still on another level to his teammates. Finally, the Geordies are wankers. 'You'll never get a job'? Yeah, like Tyneside is riding some kind of economic miracle. I used to feel a sense of solidarity with that part of the world. But today it sounded like a stadium full of David Camerons. Shame on you you c*nts. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Begbie Posted April 3, 2012 Share Posted April 3, 2012 2012 Table: http://static.vg.no/uploaded/image/bilderigg/2012/04/03/1333437691157_559.jpg Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRon Posted April 3, 2012 Share Posted April 3, 2012 No idea why you've addressed that to me. I was never on the Kenny bandwagon. I think it was probably because you argued in Kenny's favour over Roy Hodgson - which in hindsight was probably more through revulsion at Hodgson rather than any enthusiasm for Dalglish, so fair enough. Your fans in general have been lulled into overlooking Kenny's fatal flaws because of his legend status at Anfield. I agree with that post you took issue with tbh. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Venkman Posted April 3, 2012 Share Posted April 3, 2012 someones just put this on another forum from RAWK....great to see how bitter/mad/jealous of ben arfa some of them are 'You'll never get a job'? Yeah, like Tyneside is riding some kind of economic miracle. I used to feel a sense of solidarity with that part of the world. But today it sounded like a stadium full of David Camerons. Shame on you you c*nts. I'm with him on this one like, that fucking song man, so, so, so outdated, old and boring. I cringe whenever I hear it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
NG32 Posted April 3, 2012 Share Posted April 3, 2012 Fcking hell sunlan NETD! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wilson Posted April 3, 2012 Share Posted April 3, 2012 someones just put this on another forum from RAWK....great to see how bitter/mad/jealous of ben arfa some of them are 'You'll never get a job'? Yeah, like Tyneside is riding some kind of economic miracle. I used to feel a sense of solidarity with that part of the world. But today it sounded like a stadium full of David Camerons. Shame on you you c*nts. I'm with him on this one like, that f***ing song man, so, so, so outdated, old and boring. I cringe whenever I hear it. your right tbh, it's a fucking terrible chant Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
brummie Posted April 3, 2012 Share Posted April 3, 2012 2012 Table: http://static.vg.no/uploaded/image/bilderigg/2012/04/03/1333437691157_559.jpg Christ. They're even worse than us. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
wacko Posted April 3, 2012 Share Posted April 3, 2012 Oh aye. It's ridiculous the way some fans reflexively back Kenny and won't hear a word against him. Right now, Kenny's doing every bit as badly as Hodgson did. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest neesy111 Posted April 3, 2012 Share Posted April 3, 2012 John Aldridge: "To have picked up just eight points out of 36 since the turn of the year is shambolic - that's relegation form. The fact that this is the worst run in the league since 1954 speaks volumes. We're becoming a laughing stock. At the moment being a Liverpool fan is just embarrassing and that's something I haven't had to say before." Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colos Short and Curlies Posted April 3, 2012 Share Posted April 3, 2012 Talking about the best things we've ever seen at work today. My input - the current Liverpool team hehe. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ishmael Posted April 4, 2012 Share Posted April 4, 2012 http://i.imgur.com/AWwyM.jpg?1 haar Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
FrenchWilliam Posted April 4, 2012 Share Posted April 4, 2012 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robster Posted April 4, 2012 Share Posted April 4, 2012 He walked out on them once before, and at that time they were easily still the dominant force in English football. I can't see him sticking this out for too much longer. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cronky Posted April 4, 2012 Share Posted April 4, 2012 Is there a more difficult job in football management, than turning around a once successful club whose form has dipped? The pressure to succeed and succeed quickly is immense, and it comes from the media as well as the fans. The result is often a series of big money signings who it is hoped will bridge the immediate gap between the club and whoever has taken over their mantle. Usually that gap still remains or widens. Man U suffered that way for many years while Liverpool were on top, and in recent years the tables are turned. Before Man U's current domination, Fergie took them to their lowest league position since the early 70's. The club went through a process of clearing out the dead wood and starting from scratch. It doesn't feel like Liverpool have yet reached that point, although it might be thrust upon them. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiresias Posted April 4, 2012 Share Posted April 4, 2012 Dagliesh hasn't so much cleared out the deadwood as bought a load of deadwood. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gbandit Posted April 4, 2012 Share Posted April 4, 2012 Dagliesh hasn't so much cleared out the deadwood as bought a load of deadwood. This, I hope he gets a big transfer budget this summer window. Can't wait to see him bring in the likes of Colback, Bent and Mclean. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
simonsays Posted April 4, 2012 Share Posted April 4, 2012 Is there a more difficult job in football management, than turning around a once successful club whose form has dipped? The pressure to succeed and succeed quickly is immense, and it comes from the media as well as the fans. The result is often a series of big money signings who it is hoped will bridge the immediate gap between the club and whoever has taken over their mantle. Usually that gap still remains or widens. Man U suffered that way for many years while Liverpool were on top, and in recent years the tables are turned. Before Man U's current domination, Fergie took them to their lowest league position since the early 70's. The club went through a process of clearing out the dead wood and starting from scratch. It doesn't feel like Liverpool have yet reached that point, although it might be thrust upon them. Dalglish was one of the very few people who would have been given the time (by the fans at least) to try and rebuild the team with talented youngsters with potential to improve - instead he bought a load of average premier league players and looked for a quick fix Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Parky Posted April 4, 2012 Share Posted April 4, 2012 Is there a more difficult job in football management, than turning around a once successful club whose form has dipped? The pressure to succeed and succeed quickly is immense, and it comes from the media as well as the fans. The result is often a series of big money signings who it is hoped will bridge the immediate gap between the club and whoever has taken over their mantle. Usually that gap still remains or widens. Man U suffered that way for many years while Liverpool were on top, and in recent years the tables are turned. Before Man U's current domination, Fergie took them to their lowest league position since the early 70's. The club went through a process of clearing out the dead wood and starting from scratch. It doesn't feel like Liverpool have yet reached that point, although it might be thrust upon them. Generally in that scenario you're looking at a 5 year ovehaul and rebuild where one manager has to be given total faith and so on... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteveMc Posted April 4, 2012 Share Posted April 4, 2012 http://i.imgur.com/AWwyM.jpg?1 haar Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Si Posted April 4, 2012 Share Posted April 4, 2012 Holy shit that's magnificent. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest ObiChrisKenobi Posted April 4, 2012 Share Posted April 4, 2012 The Scouse taxi driver yesterday was decent. Good chat about Liverpool and he was generally just fed up of it all. Didn't criticise Dalglish as such but thought in hindsight it was probably wrong to have given him the job and should have continued with his Development Role upstairs (would prefer to have him back upstairs). To be fair he did point out that they were missing their only guy in midfield who can tackle (Lucas). However, he did seem pretty disappointed with how Henderson has developed. Not sure if he was a RM or a CM. Reckoned Spearing has hit his heights as a player, if not playing above his ability trying to fill in the role of Lucas (lots of running and chasing not much more). Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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